User:Sakura emad/GR/1
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Remove global rollback for User:Sakura emad
This user is currently vandalizing de.wikivoyage by reverting correct edits and engaging in edit-wars because he does not understand the edit comments (written in German). Please remove global rollback immediately. 2A02:908:121:.&checktime(6600,0,0,':'):0:2142 13:49, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- You're right i made a mistake about reverting some legitimate edits because i didn't see the edit summary properly, however given my experience and situation i can prove that i do understand what i am doing and i do participate against vandalism not only on de.wikivoyage but dozens of other projects. πΈ Sakura emad π (talk) 13:56, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Per Global rights#Abuse of global rights, Abuse is the willful violation of a local or global policy, or consistent violation of local or global policies through ignorance or an inability (through a language barrier) to understand the local policies. I don't believe this is willful or consistent, but stewards make the decision whether to remove or not. --Ferien (talk) 14:00, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Ferien i am participating against vandalism and abusing my rights is on another level, plus i just given GR even without GR i still could do the same thing because i didn't notice. πΈ Sakura emad π (talk) 14:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Moreover this IP implies that i reverted their edit because it was written in German and i couldn't understand, which it's not true, how i participated on other projects then if it's the case?, how these people who voted on my GR Request trusted me, didn't they check my cross-wiki activity? how could i be GR in the first place if i was misusing my editing rights? i participated on French, Dutch, Arabic, Spanish, Italian, Chinese, Russian, Ukrainian among many other projects. πΈ Sakura emad π (talk) 14:19, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- It's best to avoid wikivoyage projects all together if you aren't a local editor. Just a WMF fuck up where spam is in the project's scope. ~Styyx Talk? 16:36, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Styyx-san i got your point but i really don't like to limit my vandalism combat just because i am promoted to GR, i will Give up on my GR status if it limits me to participate widely against Vandalism and Vandals. i would like to remind all my fellow Wikimedians including the ones who trusted me with GR, i originally asked for Captcha Exempt why? because i wanted to comfortably revert vandalism without any prevention by captchas. and i always check edit summaries in any projects before reverting anything; sometimes double check to triple checking to ensure everything goes smoothly. but as i said on my GR Request:
i am someone with flaws and imperfections, i do mistakes, and i learn from them
- i can't guarantee that i will be perfect but i can guarantee that i will try better next time, i try to learn as much as possible to avoid any conflicts. πΈ Sakura emad π (talk) 17:13, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Checking some of your edits in de-projects I would suggest being a bit more careful when reverting edits you consider not useful.
- Rollback is intended for edits that are βblatantly counterproductive, such as vandalism and nonsense", furthermore Global rollback#Guidelines explicitly says βUsers should avoid rolling back legitimate or questionable edits if at all possible, and the rollback feature should never be used in a revert war".
- @Styyx-san i got your point but i really don't like to limit my vandalism combat just because i am promoted to GR, i will Give up on my GR status if it limits me to participate widely against Vandalism and Vandals. i would like to remind all my fellow Wikimedians including the ones who trusted me with GR, i originally asked for Captcha Exempt why? because i wanted to comfortably revert vandalism without any prevention by captchas. and i always check edit summaries in any projects before reverting anything; sometimes double check to triple checking to ensure everything goes smoothly. but as i said on my GR Request:
- It's best to avoid wikivoyage projects all together if you aren't a local editor. Just a WMF fuck up where spam is in the project's scope. ~Styyx Talk? 16:36, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Moreover this IP implies that i reverted their edit because it was written in German and i couldn't understand, which it's not true, how i participated on other projects then if it's the case?, how these people who voted on my GR Request trusted me, didn't they check my cross-wiki activity? how could i be GR in the first place if i was misusing my editing rights? i participated on French, Dutch, Arabic, Spanish, Italian, Chinese, Russian, Ukrainian among many other projects. πΈ Sakura emad π (talk) 14:19, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Ferien i am participating against vandalism and abusing my rights is on another level, plus i just given GR even without GR i still could do the same thing because i didn't notice. πΈ Sakura emad π (talk) 14:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- The IP gave reasons for their edits [1] [2]. Even if one might disagree with those reasons, these edits are not vandalism. You might have prevented the following edit-war [4] -> a newbie tried to point out a possible mistake or [5] -> a newbie tried to insert helpful links, not knowing that only wikilinks are allowed.
- Please make sure to provide an edit summary unless the edit is clearly in scope of GR policy --Johannnes89 (talk) 17:34, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Johannnes89 to check vandalism i mostly use SWViewer, as for Global rollback#Guidelines i make sure to follow the GR Guidelines and Policies.
- That's true The ip gave reason for each edit, but at the time i didn't notice, and when i noticed i immediately stopped, apologized for my actions , if you see my explanations above; i always check every edit summaries before doing anything (if provided). πΈ Sakura emad π (talk) 18:05, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- I know you're mostly using SWViewer, but especially when dealing with newbies (like in the examples I gave above) I would like to see you using the βrollback with summary" option more often. That being said, I don't think any of these mistakes should lead to removal of GR which was just granted hours ago. Johannnes89 (talk) 18:12, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- As i am also a Mentor on ckbwiki mentoring newbies. i see your point, maybe i was hard on new commers, so maybe instead of only undo/rollback an edit summary can guide them better, unless it's spam and they intend to repeatedly add it back. πΈ Sakura emad π (talk) 18:29, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- I know you're mostly using SWViewer, but especially when dealing with newbies (like in the examples I gave above) I would like to see you using the βrollback with summary" option more often. That being said, I don't think any of these mistakes should lead to removal of GR which was just granted hours ago. Johannnes89 (talk) 18:12, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Please make sure to provide an edit summary unless the edit is clearly in scope of GR policy --Johannnes89 (talk) 17:34, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Not done. After discussing this issue with some other stewards, I am closing this request as not done. @Sakura emad: Here are a few things I would like to point out:
- Assuming good faith also means not reverting edits unless we know they are unconstructive or bad.
- Many wikis have rules like 3RR, which tells you to stop at certain point and discuss the issue. You clearly didn't stop to look back, which is a problem. I hope you keep this in mind moving ahead. Communication is very important in roles such as GR.
- Mistakes can happen, but we need to be cautious. I hope you will keep these things in mind and will be more cautious with your reverts moving ahead. Thank you.--BRP ever 00:05, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- i will keep this in mind thank you. πΈ Sakura emad π (talk) 00:09, 22 February 2023 (UTC)