Re: Licence ? Devil's in the deails ?

OUCH O_o

Ah oui effectivement

For microcode: from NVIDIA's perspective, I think we'd like to move to
a model where NVIDIA releases microcode firmware (as binary-only) with a
defined ABI, versioning, and reasonable licensing to allow redistribution.
We have some release engineering process improvements to make there, since
today the firmware is allowed to evolve along side the NVIDIA proprietary
driver code, and the two are released in lock-step. But longer-term,
I think we'd like to move things to the firmware that either we're not
comfortable documenting, or things that are Real Hard to get right,
like P-state switching.

Does Nouveau reimplement Falcon microcode due to particular deficiencies
in NVIDIA's microcode, or because you couldn't get permission in the past
to redistribute the firmware extracted from NVIDIA's proprietary driver?
If the latter, I think we can get to the point of solving that with more
amenable licensing. If the former, I'd like to report the deficiencies
from your point of view back to NVIDIA's firmware team, so that we can
improve the firmware for Nouveau use.

While I know open firmware would be preferred over binary-only firmware
images, hopefully we can find a reasonable compromise there.

Ben ça y est on sait pourquoi du jour au lendemain Nvidia devient gentil et publie une partie de ses specs. Ils voient que nouveau commence à prendre de l'ampleur, ils sentent qu'il ne pourront pas avoir un contrôle total de l'utilisateur pendant encore bien longtemps, donc ils font mine de jouer le jeu de l'ouverture pour pouvoir faire passer plus facilement un firmware proprio par-derrière. Firmware qui contiendra tout les trucs critiques sur lesquels ils ne voudraient pas que l'utilisateur ait le contrôle. Même tactique qu'AMD. Très malin.

Quelle belle bande d'ordures hypocrites.

Monde de merde.

*splash!*