User talk:Meno25/Archive 4

Meno25, are you interested in starting Arabic pages for Wikimedia Egypt? I think they would be very helpful for the user group.

Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 15:34, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

@WhisperToMe: Hi. This proposal is currently stale, so, I believe that translating this page is a low priority. Anyway, let's mark it for translation and see if I have time to translate it. --Meno25 (talk) 19:06, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation! I wonder if having an Arabic translation will make it more accessible and therefore more likely to be reactivated. WhisperToMe (talk) 11:34, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

I hope so. Thank you for your message. --Meno25 (talk) 12:43, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Meno25. Apart from five actions in March, of which four were "tests", you haven't done anything as steward yet. Do you need more help with the buttons/rules/whatever maybe? I know it can be a bit overwhelming to receive so many tools at once so I'm happy to help of course, but please let me know then. Thanks. Trijnstel _talk 12:22, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Since I have been inactive on Meta for a long time, I decided to wait a bit before using stewrd tools and watch other stewards to try to learn as much as possible so as not to make any mistakes. That's why I have been focusing my work on Meta on translations. (I have made a few thousand translations in the last two months.) I will be more active later this year. If I needed any help, you will be the first to ask. I hope that we will be always friends. Thank you. --Meno25 (talk) 20:04, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Meno25, might you be willing to translate the main Wiki Loves Pride page at English Wikipedia into Arabic? Wikimedia LGBT is organizing a global campaign called Wiki Loves Pride, which will be held in June. I speak only English, but ideally, there will be similar project pages at Wikipedias of other languages. This will allow collaboration, discussion and the ability to organize events in languages other than English. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your consideration. --Another Believer (talk) 15:33, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

@Another Believer: Hi. Thank you for your message. I don't think that translating this page into Arabic is a good idea. LGBT related issues are a taboo in Arabic countries and some Arabic countries sentence gays/lesbians to death. Besides, translating this page would cause an uproar anyway in Arabic Wikipedia community by religious fanatics. --Meno25 (talk) 18:38, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

So, we are not to encourage Arabic speakers to contribute to Wikipedia when it comes to LGBT culture and history? (I should clarify that I completely respect your opinion and would not ask you to do anything that makes you uncomfortable. I am just genuinely trying to learn more about your perspective.) --Another Believer (talk) 19:20, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

@Another Believer: Don't get me wrong. I respect people from all sexual orientations. I am just saying that translating this page would cause problems in Arabic Wikipedia. I just don't want to translate the page just to find that the page gets nominated instantaneously for deletion (which I believe would happen). --Meno25 (talk) 19:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello Meno25, thanks for your interest in Egypt Wikimedians user group. Please have a close look on the ideas and plans on the user group page here and feel free to discuss them, oppose or add yours on the discussion page before We apply for recognition of the group to the affiliations committee. Thank you!-- Samir El-Sharbaty ^{(talk to me)} 11:24, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Meno25. Synchbot doesn't delete user pages on ar.wikipedia.org, as you requested in July 2012. The latest version of Synchbot will now instead add the {{delete}} template with a reason like "no longer needed (requested by ExampleUser)", so that a local administrator can delete the page. Let me know if you prefer another template or message (possibly a translated message with a link to a relevant speedy deletion criteria). —Pathoschild 15:49, 05 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi all. Last August I moved to new job in the desert. There is internet connection but it is very costly. Subsequently, I am practically offline with no edits on Wikimedia projects since last August, and this will not change in the near future. I am now in a short vacation in my home city Alexandria but I have to go back to the desert tomorrow. I apologize for being a disappointment for everyone. I thought I will be able to help but this was not true. Stewardship is about responsibility not honor and there is no point in me keeping the flag if I am not using it. Please remove me from the Stewards mailing list and the Stewards wiki. I would like to thank my wonderful friends (on Wikipedia and here on Meta) whom I learned a lot from and who helped me over the past eight years. Thank you all and I am sorry again. --Meno25 (talk) 06:26, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Bye Meno! Thanks for your service! Eurodyne (talk) 06:28, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

I've removed you from the global group as well. Thanks for helping out, and sorry it didn't work out this time around. Best of luck with your job :-) Ajraddatz (talk) 06:31, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to see you go. Perhaps you'll be able to return one day. Best of luck! --MZMcBride (talk) 14:09, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. No need to be sorry, RL should win every time. Best of luck. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:35, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello! Could you translate an article about boycott of Russian goods in Ukraine for the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia? Thanks for the help.--Trydence (talk) 16:10, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

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Hello, sorry in advance if I am bothering you. I simply want to inform you about a possibilty here on meta. After the SUL finalization there is a search for additional Global_renamers. You should know, since you have been asked to translate some of the related pages here on meta.

As I did with other users, I am contacting you because at the moment in Global_renamers#Users_with_global_rename_access and Stewards#List_of_current_stewards, if I correctly remember, we have only 3 ar-N. That's probably enough, but those 3 GRs are in fact not very acrive, if you scroll the stats, so maybe sometimes a backlog could occur.

Now, you have an en>3 knowledge, a

If you are not interested, or you prefer to wait to have more experience, or you think you won't be very active in the following months, that's great as well. If you want to apply, I suggest you to translate or update some of the meta page Global renamers into Arabic. Have a nice day.--Alexmar983 (talk) 21:57, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

@Alexmar983: Thank you dearly for your message. However, I will be busy in real life in the coming months and I am already an admin on enwiki and arwiki, so, I don't have time for another flag. Sorry again and pleased to know you. --Meno25 (talk) 20:04, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

You know: it is always worth a try... but if you feel in the mood, don't overthink it. Few actions are better than no action. Pleased to know you as well.--Alexmar983 (talk) 21:39, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

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I am not sure why you are substituting Template:welcome. In fact, it is a ridiculous requirement that the template should be substituted, and seems an imported, and valueless and pointless requirement, and then to have a bot go and do that task seems equally inane. — billinghurst sDrewth 16:53, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: Is this your personal opinion or is this a requirement every bot should follow? (Has there been a discussion about this issue that I missed?) According to WP:TG

Templates for short, temporary messages that will be removed quickly (such as on User_talk: pages) or that contain text which is not likely to ever be changed should be invoked with substitution (subst:).

And there wasn't opposition for this task when I applied for bot flag. Anyway, I am open to stopping the bot if the opinion of the community changed here. --Meno25 (talk) 07:39, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Blindly following an arcane process from English Wikipedia on a multi-language wiki where there is no demonstrated benefit seems weird. 1) Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Welcome shows multiple languages to welcome, and these can all be regularly updated. 2) What are we gaining by substituting this template? I can see none. I am all for fixes that have value, but this one has no clear value, especially with relation to the welcome message. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:43, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: OK. I will stop the bot then. --Meno25 (talk) 13:37, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

I haven't asked you to stop the bot, that will have to be your assessment based on what you are doing, I am asking about Template:Welcome. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:20, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: I mistunderstood you then. Sorry. The reason why welcome templates should be substituted is explained in en:WP:SUBST (Couldn't find documentation about this issue on Meta, so, I am quoting enwiki):

Templates are often modified or deleted. If a template is boilerplate text, consider whether you want it to vary as the template is modified. If your answer is "no", substitution is warranted. An example of this is the {{welcome}} template. The archives of a user's talk page should show the actual welcome message they received, not the current welcome message.

This is the added value that you are asking about. (Showing the welcome template in user archives as the user received it not as it is now.) If you feel that this reason is not enough, then tell me and I will stop the bot. However, in my 11+ years on Wikimedia wikis, welcome messages were always substituted. I actually ran my bot to do this specific task in 7 different Arabic Wikimedia wikis. Substituting welcome templates was always a non-controversial bot task. --Meno25 (talk) 15:09, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

I would dispute the underlying premise that at a place like metawiki that a static welcome template on a user talk page is of more value. I would put forward that a template with contemporary messaging is more beneficial, and the quieter the wiki, and the quieter the talk page, then the greater value in a dynamic user page. The argument that it has to represent a piece of history rather than a contemporary welcome and guidance here at metawiki is one that I challenge. (We can always find their message in history.) Add in the factor of a multi-language template that is not built concurrently, rather than a single language wiki, in a faster-paced talk page environment. — billinghurst sDrewth 06:36, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: We are running around in circles here and we need input from a 3rd party to settle the dispute. (As we really shouldn't be wasting all this time on a tiny issue like this.) I will post about this on Meta:Babel. --Meno25 (talk) 15:24, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi i'm lina New user in Wikipedia so please brother I want your explanation about how to use Wikipedia and how can I make my. Page. I'm really sorry and thank you so much Please talk to me as soon as ok

• good luck* 😉👌👍 Lina Parker (talk) 09:38, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi. A good entry point would be to read our tutorial. Happy editing. --Meno25 (talk) 11:54, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

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