Steward requests/Checkuser/2022-11

Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 12:49, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

• Confirmed 朱席珍, 馮慧姬, 馮克勁, Major fung, Fengkejin, 馮公翊

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 12:52, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

• Inconclusive Inconclusive Arwenz

It's been too long since the last investigation, and can't find enough data to make a decision. The only way is to recognize them by their behavioral patterns. --Sotiale (talk) 10:41, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Expected that this would come here. @अभय नातू @संतोष गोरे kindly intervene. Tiven2240 (talk) 10:44, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

@Tiven2240, I know you would come to defend sandesh. This is a proof that you are supporting socks on mrwiki. QueerEcofeminist🌈 11:09, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

@QueerEcofeminist: Parden me, is it a rule here that Any Admin shouldn't utter a single word without your permission? Do I have permission to write anything what happened or quit the conversation?-संतोष गोरे (talk) 12:44, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

You can make the necessary statements here. However, if you need a discussion with others, please do so on mrwiki instead of here. This applies to everyone here. --Sotiale (talk) 12:56, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

QueerEcofeminist has been targetting harrassing me since many years now. He has misguided many editors about me on every Wiki. For him every sock is Sandesh (me). I have never used socks and no Wikipedia project has ever confirmed me as a sockpuppetor rather than the creation of a user account created by me in my native language. He has done the same with many users now. We have always assumed good faith in this editor but he never contributed to Marathi Wikipedia but always has been targeting harassing other users and giving threats to admins and beaurocrats on Marathi Wikipedia. He has misguided many users as socks and has made them blocked on English Wikipedia and commons. To be honest Wikipedia rules are not known to many new users and QEF just uses these rules to harass New editors. He is ignorant of Wikipedia Policies like Assuming Good faith and Universal code of conduct. I am sure that the above users are definitely not me and even after Check User checks it will not be me but this harassment by this hat collector QEF needs to be dealt with for sure. —Sandesh9822 (talk) 14:21, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Note Note: There may be other users' statements, but these are my thoughts for now; it makes no sense to tie them all up at once. --Sotiale (talk) 13:04, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

@Sotiale, all of them voted in favor of the poll and there are very few or absolutely no edits otherwise. Still you think they might not be related? QueerEcofeminist🌈 02:48, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

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all of them voted in favor of the poll and there are very few or absolutely no edits otherwise.

This is incorrect or at least misleading. editors with few or absolutely no edits otherwise also voted Opposed. Here're 3 of the 6 opposing votes with their w:mr edit counts -

1. Maroti9860 -- 8 total edits starting 5 days before voting edit. 3 on voting page.
2. PradipShamraoAthavle -- 1 edit on voting page
3. PravinGanechari -- 4 edits. 2 edits on voting page including vote itself were not in Marathi, rather in Hindi and English. 2 other edits in March 2022.

Thanks.

अभय नातू (talk) 03:37, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Note Note: Similar Sockpuppetor alligations were done on me when I was on nomination of Adminship for Marathi Wikisource. Steward requests/Checkuser/2020-05#Fabian1117@mr.wikisource (that was also found negative). This has been on a trend now wherein the nominator first creates mess on local nominaton page threatening to go against local community consensus and take actions on local 'crats if they implement the community consensus of administrator nomination. Then put all the list who voted in favor for a CU Check. The nominator has disputes with many editors on Marathi Wikipedia and now they are requesting to using the CU tool on those users which is merely as a threat against another editor in their content dispute. A violation of CU Policies on Meta wiki. --Tiven2240 (talk) 08:27, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Bundling them all together just because they're in favor means it doesn't make sense. For example, why is Sumedhdmankar included here? If all of these are tied together, you should explain why. As stated above, isn't investigation possible because of the oppose? Suspiciousness should be more fully explained. --Sotiale (talk) 10:31, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Unlikely Unlikely Surendra Rajaram Shinde, Sumedhdmankar, विष्णु एरंडे, प्रतिक रामटेके

Declined to check the remaining per lack of evidence. -- Amanda (she/her) 13:24, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I have confirmed that ZZARZY223 has been editing in rowiki for quite some time. If ZZARZY223 is to be investigated, I think more detailed evidence that I can confirm and your analysis should be presented. In presenting the editing diffs, it is necessary to indicate which behaviors and edits are similar. Thanks. --Sotiale (talk) 13:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi, and thank you for your answer. Sorry if I will be too long-winded in my analysis. The account ZZARZY223 has been created on commons.wikimedia in 2015 (October 14) and uploaded two files that were deleted sometime later. Then the user made four minor edits in two articles on ro.wikipedia between October 14 and November 5, in order to add those images. There are no other edits on that project until May 2019 and the account became a sleeper, waiting for a better fate. The main sockpuppeteer Ark25 had been blocked between July 2 and October 2, and continued to be inactive until December 4, 2015 – several confirmed sockpuppets in his attempts to evade. After its reactivation in 2019, the account ZZARZY223 continued Ark25’s work on many articles, as may be seen in their Editor Interaction Analyser. On the other hand, during its short lifespan, their most recent sockpuppet Arwenz found the time and interest to create the redirect 'Bidon' targeting to article 'Canistră' created by ZZARZY223. Ark25 is now stale, but Arwenz and ZZARZY223 are still active on the same project and give us the opportunity for a direct technical confirmation of this analysis. --Pafsanias (talk) 18:53, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

@Sotiale: I strongly support this request. I'm the local sysop who blocked Arwenz. If there was any shade of a doubt in my mind that it's Ark25, then the (benign but long and unending...) monologuing going on over here proves it conclusively. While at first Arwenz pretended to not know Ark25, a day later he claims to be a friend of Ark25 who was solely introduced to wikiediting by Ark25. Long story short, this proves to me that he still doesn't understand why independently of each other, 2 wikicomunities have already banned him. He's a prolific wielder of clones, so your help in unmasking them would be much appreciated. There are striking similarities between Arwenz and ZZARZY223. If you need further details on why ZZARZY223 shows the same pattern of behavior, I'd rather send you an email, as I don't want to give him a handbook on avoiding detection. Kind regards, --Mihai P. (talk) 00:00, 8 November 2022 (UTC) PS: Sorry to the en.wiki community for suggesting to Ark25 at one point in the past to try his luck there and see how long it would take for him to be stopped if we're so abusive over at ro.wiki...--Mihai P. (talk) 00:06, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 14:56, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

• Unrelated Unrelated ZZARZY223 and Arwenz

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• These two accounts are unrelated and appear to be in different geographic locations.
• These two accounts have no information matching the previously confirmed group.

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 15:05, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, --Pafsanias (talk) 16:07, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi. At least one comparison target must be presented for this investigation. Please present this user's previous accounts. --Sotiale (talk) 13:55, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello, and thank you for your response. The original user in greek WP is Vrahomarinaner, who was permanently banned in 2017. Newer sockpuppets include user:KEKOS55. Check for sleepers if possible as well. Thank you in advance, Ιπποκράτης2020 (talk) 16:13, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

• Confirmed ΩΧΗ, Όχι αθλητικά στο μαγαζί του Ιπποκράτη, Κλείστε τον μέσα, Βώλος του Κούλη, Υποεπιτροπος, Πόστ, Zaxarna, KEKOS55, Τραντι, Ζωρζ Λάμπρινος
• Likely Likely Dremsa, Blue Green 2023
• Unrelated Unrelated Οσελότος

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• The likely group means that it is likely to be the same as the confirmed group.
• The likely group appears to have used the IP and device of public facilities, so it is recommended to analyze their contributions separately for action.
• Οσελότος, who was initially requested to investigate, has no technical connection with the confirmed group above.

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 14:55, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Allright,Thank you very much Ιπποκράτης2020 (talk) 15:50, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

• Confirmed Tsodago and I3L0125

--Sotiale (talk) 06:35, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 09:00, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

• Confirmed Giorgoselefteriadis, Stavrougeorgios, Giorgosneris

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 09:05, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Doing... --Sotiale (talk) 09:07, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

• Confirmed 销信 and 高泽钿

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• This user used VPN.

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 09:14, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

In general, self-targeted checkusering is not allowed. If necessary, have a local user or sysop make a request here with a reason and evidence. --Sotiale (talk) 11:45, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

• Confirmed Forever Cheap, 香港師兄, 雷霆戰虎以一敵百, 蛋秉強, 清零宗格維尼大帝, 清零宗維尼大帝, 天佑烏克蘭, 下山虎烏鴉, Tze Wah God, 文和亂武, 事頭婆, Давай Україна, 燉湯明, 蛋餅強, 美髯公, 清零宗翠維尼大帝, 硬核警長維大力, 最強毒士, 追悼・月都

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• In some cases, they used VPNs.

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 09:25, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

• Unrelated Unrelated S80115jojo and A0983181113

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 03:59, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

In progress... --Martin Urbanec (talk) 17:26, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Stale

There are no CU info for the first two users, which means a CU can't reach any conclusion here. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 17:28, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you!--Kun Kipcsak (talk) 17:53, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

• Confirmed Invernoeternal and Itleda(2022-09)
• Stale

(too old from last contribution) A rock after splacks, I will, i-i

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 01:49, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

more sources

https://interaction-timeline.toolforge.org/?wiki=commonswiki&user=202.75.83.58&user=202.75.86.157&startDate=1604188800&endDate=1668643199 Melvorano V (talk) 08:00, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Declined It is technically impossible to compare two IP addresses to each other via CheckUser, because what CheckUsers see are the IP addresses of logged in users. Furthermore, checking between logged in users and an IP addresses would likely be declined as well, as results can't be disclosed without also disclosing the IP of the logged in user. Thank you for your understanding. Sincerely, Martin Urbanec (talk) 10:53, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Note Note: for Melvorano V: zhwiki, by their consensus, SRCU requests are being reviewed by clerks prior to posting requests. If you choose to override this consensus and post a request, you must provide a good reason for disregarding the consensus. If this is not the case, follow the local procedure. --Sotiale (talk) 01:42, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

@ATannedBurger and LuciferianThomas: Hi, clerks who have been active recently. Ping for notifications. --Sotiale (talk) 01:53, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

@Sotiale and Martin Urbanec, thanks for the notification. Local CU request is filed by the above user who is not autoconfirmed (which is the requirement for filing CU requests on zhwiki) in an orphan SPI talk page instead of an actual SPI case page. I find it highly likely that this user is a sockpuppet of globally blocked IP Special:Contribs/202.75.86.157. Please handle this user at your discretion, thank you! Luciferian Thomas 03:19, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Evidence: Special:Diff/24008965, w:zh:Special:Diff/74619512. Luciferian Thomas 03:23, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I can't tell if their IPs are related or not, but since Melvorano V is Sorcerex's lock evasion, I took action. --Sotiale (talk) 03:28, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

No other accounts, no history on the CU logs for the underlying IPs, and nothing particularly suspicious. -- Amanda (she/her) 20:23, 19 November 2022 (UTC)

• Confirmed 小李敖, Flying Tiger Spirit, ROCAIR, Flying Tiger air, ROOAIR
• Unrelated Unrelated 台機電

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• It is not possible to reveal whether 台機電's use of the IP constitutes abuse, but 台機電 has done non-login editing.
• This may or may not be an abuse and cannot provide information about their contributions.

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 11:01, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

• Confirmed Leslieliu47 and Anaboy888

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• They used VPN.

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 10:44, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

• Confirmed ΚΩΣΤΑς ΜΠΑΝΑΝΑς Κ, Αλμπέρτο αλαμπούρδας and KEKOS55(2022-11)
• Likely Likely Βανατος, Stik188, Himest, JPineda24, Canntisport, Disloko, Joka78, Vasili Zonathan

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• For the Likely Likely group, it's technically very likely they're the same user, but analyze their contribution patterns to decide.

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 10:36, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Confirmed and locked. Most lazy and blatant silliness I've seen in a while. Operator873 ^connect 05:18, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

• Confirmed Rajatre and Invernoeternal

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 10:39, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Please explain what you mean by "create the same article" and provide links for your comments. -- Amanda (she/her) 23:20, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

This article was create by Khooomphet5 but Khomphoi28 tell this article create by yourself on his user page, And these accounts have similar names. --Lookruk 💬 (Talk) 06:20, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Possible Possible between the two users. -- Amanda (she/her) 11:54, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello, has there been an investigation into Coni Prislop recently? Or Coni Prislop's socks? Coni Prislop account is too old to have anything to compare the data to. --Sotiale (talk) 11:03, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

I don't think so, but thanks for the reply. I forgot that time could cause difficulties, even if it is globally locked.--Kun Kipcsak (talk) 22:04, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Marking as Not done then. -- Amanda (she/her) 23:18, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

• Confirmed 強者映妤, 楓丹白露楊枝甘露, 陳峻廷, 抗衡埃姆斯法, HHNZ113
• Likely Likely Twtatsl, 新莊何語容

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• Likely Likely Xingengjiwu(2022-07)

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 05:40, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

• Confirmed Smile Liberty, You Serendipity, 只能意會不能言傳

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• These are technically Possible Possible with StrongBacking.

From a technical point of view. But personally, if their behavior patterns were similar, I would have blocked them as the same user(checkuser point of view). --Sotiale (talk) 10:30, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

• Confirmed 天使之刃

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• No other sleepers found.

From a technical point of view. --Sotiale (talk) 12:09, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

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