Steward requests/Checkuser/2018-04

Confirmed Ruslik (talk) 17:42, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

IPs cannot be checked. — regards, Revi 04:33, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

@-revi: Thanks, however, in the header we can read "Valid reasons include needing a block of the underlying IP or IP range" but IPs cannot be checked? What's the meaning of that ? --SleaY (talk) 05:28, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

You already have an IP addresses to block. That only applies for accounts which you cannot see IP. — regards, Revi 06:20, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Xiaohei Xiaohei is Stale, last action 2017-11. — regards, Revi 07:59, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@-revi: Then could you please check the relation between 圓圓8888 and 花花8888? They are both blocked as socks of Xiaohei Xiaohei. --Stang 08:34, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Completed Completed: 花花8888 and 圓圓8888 are Likely Likely. — regards, Revi 09:04, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, I am SQORP. Before month I've been wrongly blame and get banned for two weeks. But all users don't believe me. Can you check it? It will be very grateful. SQORP (talk) 19:51, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

So? --SQORP (talk) 10:11, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Not done Italian Wikipedia has its own checkusers. Please, ask them. Ruslik (talk) 17:35, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Ruslik, Its lithuanian, not italian wikipedia. Please check it. --SQORP (talk) 10:23, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

There is no such user as Vosses. Ruslik (talk) 20:47, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm so sorry, Ruslik, it's Vosess, not Vosses. It's related? --SQORP (talk) 10:33, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Unrelated Unrelated Ruslik (talk) 19:26, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm so thankful! Good luck! --SQORP (talk) 05:24, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

@Stang: Both the loginwiki and zhwiki checkuser shows that the IP's this user has used are not and have not been affected by either local or global blocks. Green Giant (talk) 16:19, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

@Davidzdh: User:张云飞 last edited more than three months ago, so unfortunately there is no CU data to compare the two. Green Giant (talk) 15:57, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Doing... (Very obvious note: Alber is Stale.) — regards, Revi 12:39, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Completed Completed: Results below.

Likely Likely: Ranteres, Werstone

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Inconclusive Inconclusive Ryan Williamson

Overall, there was too small contribution sample to run checks on. As I can't read/speak Chinese, this is purely technical data and zhwiki community should do their own behavioral checks. — regards, Revi 13:12, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Not done @Lnnocentius: Apart from MidnightSun2400, all of the others are stale (CU data is only stored for 90 days) i.e. their last edits were more than 3 months ago. MidnightSun2400's IPs did not reveal any additional accounts. You will have to examine behavioural evidence locally. Green Giant (talk) 14:31, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick response.--Innocentius Aiolos 14:34, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

@Silvermetals: the CU data suggests these three are Likely Likely to be the same person, together with one more (燃氣), who is linked to Azexla and I note is already locally blocked for vandalism. Further behavioural analysis will have to be done locally because I don’t speak/read Chinese. Green Giant (talk) 20:22, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

We do not match accounts to IP addresses. --MCC214 (talk) 06:52, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

IPs and accounts cannot be directly compared. Doing so is Wikimedia Privacy Policy violation. — regards, Revi 07:34, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Most recent edits are at en.wiki I only found a single relevant edit which is unusable if alone. --Vituzzu (talk) 23:10, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Doing... — regards, Revi 07:49, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Results below.

• Group 1: Confirmed: Jasonwanno.1, JASON DOG
• Group 2: Confirmed: JASON DOG, JASON IS DOG
• Group 3: JASONWANDOG
• Group 4: 尹狗
• No sleepers.

Group 1 is connected to Hdkfldkslals. Group 1 and Group 2 are Possible Possible. Group 2 and 3 are Possible Possible. Group 2 and 4 are Possible Possible. — regards, Revi 08:38, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Confirmed. There is a long list of socks: Qiqrra, Milonjë, Almustafà, Llazgo, Fapaf, Flladitja. Ruslik (talk) 19:10, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

No evasions found. --Vituzzu (talk) 09:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

• Note: Tsiusing106 have been creating usernames with South Korean pop star + a string of numbers, and those accounts have been banned locally. Please check if he is bypassing blocks per local policy with other sockpuppets.

Confirmed --Vituzzu (talk) 09:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Vituzzu,had other sock for Tsiusing106?--MCC214 (talk) 10:47, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Just to add to the report: The first edit of this user ([3]) was to leave a profanity at an administrator's talk page. The user then left another profanity here ([4]), at the talk page of a confirmed sock (zh:User:Saeaaa), relating to a cross-wiki LTA Jessechi. Please take a look if possible, thank you. Alex Shih (talk) 15:08, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Confirmed. --Vituzzu (talk) 09:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Just to add, this is probably related to the request above. This user has expressed longstanding grudge against Outlookxp and other Chinese Wikipedia administrators. If possible, please take a look to see if these accounts are connected, thank you. Alex Shih (talk) 15:13, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Unrelated Unrelated to users above. --Vituzzu (talk) 09:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Vituzzu,but I think edit is unlike new ID,and 反濫權者 is other ID sock likely,because this user has expressed longstanding grudge against Outlookxp and other Chinese Wikipedia administrators.--MCC214 (talk) 10:45, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

MCC214 Since the user has been blocked locally anyway, I think it's fine. This is probably a case of canvassing/meat puppetry if technical data does not match. Alex Shih (talk) 17:09, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

It looks like a duck to me - I can read some charactors. Same charactors, just 2 in one account, quack quack.— regards, Revi 08:44, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

-revi,this mean is?--MCC214 (talk) 08:49, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Obvious duck don't need CU. Just handle them locally. — regards, Revi 08:51, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Ray678123 is Unrelated Unrelated. CYSHFLANKER and 祖國衛士 are Possible Possible socks of each other. Ruslik (talk) 19:55, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

This could be really interesting. On Mar. 8th we checked Ray678123 and CYSHFLANKER and these two were "confirmed" according to one of our CUers. The record could be found here: zh:Wikipedia:用戶查核請求/2018/3#Ray678123_2. --Innocentius Aiolos 20:15, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

@Ruslik0:,could we check if User:Superman12345 is related to the three accounts above? He is also known using IPs to commit edit warring with User:Ray678123. In fact, his/her editing styles were similar to Ray678123 and I think that could be a reason why our CUer claimed "confirmed" even though there were no technical relation. --Innocentius Aiolos 20:31, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Superman12345 is Likely Likely a sock of CYSHFLANKER but Unrelated Unrelated to Ray678123. Ruslik (talk) 19:59, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

@Ruslik0:This result is actually a complete opposite from the result we have a month ago with our local CU. Could you provide the possible reasons for this kind of stuff happening? Thank you. --Innocentius Aiolos 01:44, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

I do not know. Ruslik (talk) 19:16, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Ruslik,also,had other sock of Superman12345 likely?--MCC214 (talk) 06:35, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• For stewards: this is a poor translation. What he want to say is, "喀 is likely a sock, for his first edit is {{ping}}ing three sysop's in zh.wikipedia."
• For MCC214: This is a duck I think. EtaoinWu (talk) 07:32, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
  • And also, the pronounciation of 喀 is "Ka". EtaoinWu (talk) 07:43, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

It looks like a duck to me quack quack, after digging wiktionary. — regards, Revi 07:45, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

-revi, but I think 喀 is likely a sock,because his first edit is ping three sysop's,if he is new sysop,and he don't know wikipedia can ping sysop's.--MCC214 (talk) 09:39, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

-revi,The case is that it might be beneficial to check in order to pull more of this user's sock puppets out of the water. Does that merit a check?And I think 喀 is likely a sock,because his first edit is ping three sysop's,if he is new sysop,and he don't know wikipedia can ping sysop's.--MCC214 (talk) 06:33, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Comment Comment: All the accounts listed above have been block on zh.wikipedia and I see sysops on zh.wikipedia are capable to deal with this problem. So CU is not a necessity.--Tiger (talk) 13:28, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Per Tiger. — regards, Revi 09:29, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

-revi,have more sock of 0123喵喵9876?--MCC214 (talk) 09:40, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Did not perform checkuser. I agree with Tiger that local sysops can handle the situation without CU data, so I did not perform the check. — regards, Revi 09:41, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

The case is that it might be beneficial to check in order to pull more of this user's sock puppets out of the water. Does that merit a check? Bluedeck 18:29, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

As the sockmaster has basically declared that they disagree with socking policy ([6]) and will continue to create more accounts (based on user page edits), I think a sleeper check would be beneficial. Alex Shih (talk) 05:23, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

ok, not done rescinded. It would be beneficial to both zhwiki community and stewards that if zhwiki can do some sort of Quality Control (discussing if checks are really needed) on zhwiki before coming to SRCU. — regards, Revi 05:43, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Doing... — regards, Revi 07:28, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Confirmed: 0123喵喵9876, 2号备战军, 3号秘密部队, 4号志愿军, 9876喵喵0123
• Likely Likely with the confirmed above: 追忆霞光
• No sleepers found, some of the accounts used open proxy.

Completed Completed as above. — regards, Revi 08:04, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Doing... --Alaa :)..! 14:33, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Confirmed --Alaa :)..! 15:00, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

• Please communicate with the local community before initiating a Steward request. Stewards have complained to the community about the quality of these CheckUser request. --1233 | Questions?| This message is left by him at 10:45, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
• Why submit such kind of CU request? Unrelated obviously unrelated in my opinion. --云间守望 - (Talk with WQL) 19:00, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

SRCU is not a discussion board for zhwiki sock discovery. Please do it on zhwiki with your fellow editors, and only bring cases that requires technical investigation. — regards, Revi 10:40, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Confirmed and there is another sock: Faith&Kindness. Ruslik (talk) 18:08, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

• Confirmed Hatake, GjonBdeku, and Dedalia
• Completed Completed Green Giant (talk) 19:03, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Not done We do not accept checkuser requests from unregistered users --Alaa :)..! 08:24, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Not done We do not accept checkuser requests from unregistered users. Ruslik (talk) 20:04, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Confirmed Ruslik (talk) 19:57, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Oppose Oppose: Please seek local consensus before posting an RFCU here, thank you.--140.180.246.58 05:00, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Realistically speaking, I would approve this check, to check technically if this user is a sockpuppet of another user.--1233 | Questions?| This message is left by him at 09:34, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

Fishing CheckUser is not for fishing — regards, Revi 15:31, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

• @-revi: Now it is not just fishing. I have just added 140.180.246.58 to {{CU request}}. This IP address has similar editing inclination to 简单时刻's and different editing time with that user.--CopperSulfate (talk) 09:36, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

  We do not perform checks with IPs. Accounts with accounts only. — regards, Revi 09:38, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Please close this request. The user is trying to avoid local discussion before sending the request to meta-checkuser, and we have a consensus that local discussion is needed pre-CU.--Innocentius Aiolos 13:40, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Doing... Green Giant (talk) 09:35, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Completed Completed:

Unlikely Unlikely for Eugenpetre0802 and Bianca Ion2010

Stale for Suxyna (more than 90 days ago)

@Strainu: Done —Green Giant (talk) 10:09, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!--Strainu (talk) 10:32, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

Doing... — regards, Revi 17:15, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Completed Completed as follows:

• A, Confirmed: Jiehfan, Jimmychief
• B, Confirmed: Dargye99, Arch99
• C: 浪人般若船

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• A and B are Likely Likely. A+B and C are Possible Possible.
• No other sleepers.

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SRCU Disclaimer

• This result only contains technical CheckUser evidences, and Steward haven't looked at the behavioral patters or edit patterns of the accounts involved. Therefore, Behavioural evidence needs evaluation. You are expected to do your own research about their behavior and editing patterns before acting on this check result.

— regards, Revi 17:41, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

It is not fair to block me due to I modified the entries just the same as others. I do not do any damage to wikis. Arch99 (talk) 02:07, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm just presenting a technical data, as requested by Chinese Wikipedia community. The decision to block you was made by Chinese Wikipedia administrator, on Chinese Wikipedia, not Stewards on Meta. — regards, Revi 11:19, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Doing... — regards, Revi 11:31, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Completed Completed as follows:

• Group A, Confirmed: Kickchinadog, [redacted], [redacted], [redacted]
• Group B, Confirmed: TaiwanIDPD, [redacted]

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• Group A and B are Possible Possible.

— regards, Revi 12:00, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

• -revi,User:TD0516is the Suspected sockpuppet of KAGE?--MCC214#Talk with me 07:13, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

  That didn't appear during my check yesterday. Are you asking for new check? — regards, Revi 08:04, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Not doing checks right now, but No comment with respect to IP address(es). — regards, Revi 07:28, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Nwalker3, Adekirim, Calypsomusic and Reps are Stale. Jedi3 and Visite fortuitement prolongée are Unrelated Unrelated. Ruslik (talk) 13:51, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Likely Likely Ruslik (talk) 20:19, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, I am a new sysop in sqwiki and I was wondering if the "likely" symbol is as strong as "confirmed", and if it should be treated that way. I do see the behavioral evidence presented by Udha, and there are some pointers there, but the "likely" symbol will need to be clarified further for me to block the user, who has been providing overall positive contributions. As far as the comment of Udha (Udha is currently blocked for disruption in sqwiki) for administrators who supposedly "unofficially" back and encourage Hatake, that is a lie, as every single confirmed sock of Hatake has been promptly blocked in sqwiki. I invite Udha to show evidence to the contrary. --1l2l3k (talk) 21:52, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Likely means ‘A is likely to be related with B.’ — regards, Revi 22:03, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

This should be read as very likely but there are a number of other users in the same range and the UA string is a common one. So, there is small chance that this may be a coincidence but not very large chance. If you have behavioral evidence as well, this means that the case is confirmed. Ruslik (talk) 19:19, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Ruslik User:Zall-herr is the new sockpuppet created by User:Hatake in sqwiki. This new user seems experienced and in just a few days he has edited a lot of articles Hatake and his socks edited as well. He insults and attacks people all the time (example: Misto Treska ). I have behavioral evidence as well, this means that the case is confirmed. As one of the people attacked by him, I confirm Zall-herr is just another sockpuppet of Hatake, created just 1 day after his latest socks user:Dedalia and user:GjonBdeku were discovered and blocked. Please block him. Regards -- User:Arkivisti 19:55, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

We just provide the data as requested, and the decision whether to block that user or not is made by local administrators. We do not interfere with the local process. Thank you. — regards, Revi 07:29, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

If the administrator 1l2l3k wanted Hatake's sock Zall-Herr to be blocked he would've been blocked by now. It's been five days since Zall-Herr was confirmed as a sock, yet 1l2l3k didn't lift a finger to block him. 1l2l3k is the same admin who blocked a random anonymous IP with 1 edit for being a "sock of Udha", despite his behavior showing no correlation to mine.1 Yet somehow he cannot recognize a sock by Hatake even when he's presented with evidence, even after I successfully discovered 13 Hatake socks on my own since December while informing him (1...) first about each new sock?! 1l2l3k even has a personal list of most Hatake socks!--Udha (talk) 20:05, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

I am not the only administrator in sqwiki: there are 10 sysops, and neither one of them is "lifting a finger" to block the so-called sock, so I'm not the only one to have reservations as to whether this contributor should be blocked or not as sock. So, there are 9 other admins that so far have deemed the behavior evidence insufficient. As per Ruslik's explanation of "Likely", a confirmed sock is the one who, besides being "likely", has also some behavior evidence that is convincing. I personally find the behavioral evidence not convincing. Hatake, although had a poor behavior, was the most prolific contributor of sqwiki, with much original research, as well as references, brought to the Albanian wikipedia. As a result he touched thousands of articles. It is very easy to find someone who has edited on Hatake's articles and block them. Hec, I can block myself as a Hatake sock, because I have edited in many of Hatake's articles. Hatake was blocked, based on my recommendation, as a disruptive user. Udha was also banned with community vote from interacting with Hatake, because he was continuously baiting and harassing Hatake. Eventually Hatake was perm-blocked because of continuous improper language and behavior. Zall-herr does not have any similarity in language, behavior or other, more subtle forms of communication with Hatake. Hatake spoke in very heavy Shkoder dialect, and the articles suffered from it. Zall-herr has a completely different language in both personal communication and article writing style. I don't feel that there is any sufficient behavioral evidence to be sufficient to block the contributor. Other sysops, if they disagree with me, they can block him. I won't, for now. Zall-herr has been a positive contributor, and does NOT remind me of Hatake at all. --1l2l3k (talk) 14:07, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Doing... — regards, Revi 11:44, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Completed Completed as follows:

• Stale: Copyangry7fcvc, Altjóð, Enduranceoc, Jkforumnoone, EntralU
• Inconclusive Inconclusive: ProgresTranspacificnershi and HuaUniv
  • Contribution sample not enough to make decision.
• No sleeper.

— regards, Revi 12:09, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Doing... — regards, Revi 12:15, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Completed Completed as follows:

• Confirmed MidnightSun2400, Ach1ys
• Thomsonlee is Possible Possible with confirmed above.
• Snoopyw and Tony3009 are Unlikely Unlikely with Thomsonlee, but Unrelated Unrelated to MidnightSun and Ach1ys.

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SRCU Disclaimer

• This result only contains technical CheckUser evidences, and Steward haven't looked at the behavioral patters or edit patterns of the accounts involved. Therefore, Behavioural evidence needs evaluation. You are expected to do your own research about their behavior and editing patterns before acting on this check result.

— regards, Revi 13:04, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

• • @-revi: Many thanks! ŚÆŊ MØ ŠĀ 23:39, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

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