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17 September 2017

20:1020:10, 17 September 2017 diff hist +73 Requests for comment/Interlinking of accounts involved with paid editing to decrease impersonation →Oppose: I retract that comment, Doc is not one of the typical 'warriors'.
20:0820:08, 17 September 2017 diff hist +438 Requests for comment/Interlinking of accounts involved with paid editing to decrease impersonation →Oppose: # {{oppose}} As unworkable and unenforceable. Furthermore, I oppose the manipulative attempts to undermine local enwiki consensus by abusing the Meta processes, where less enwiki attention lies, to force policy on enwiki. Why is it always t

18 October 2016

01:5601:56, 18 October 2016 diff hist +250 Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia movement/2017 →Measurability: ::What'd I'd like to see is a focused effort with a tangible outcome. If we don't know what it looks like to be inclusive, then how do we know what to do to get there?--~~~~

8 October 2016

19:5119:51, 8 October 2016 diff hist +423 Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia movement/2017 →Measurability: new section

5 June 2016

06:1506:15, 5 June 2016 diff hist +143 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Add ignore functionality →More fine-tuning: "Ignore per page"?: :If this were on enwp, I'd be happy to {{t|hat}} the comment for you.--~~~~

4 June 2016

19:0719:07, 4 June 2016 diff hist +438 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Reduce attack pages which get picked up by other sites →Wikipedia is not in charge of the Internet: *{{reply to|Titanium Dragon}} No-index is entirely within our control. If other sites are scraping us and ignoring no-index then it's their fault. But at the moment, they can claim we didn't use reasonabl
19:0419:04, 4 June 2016 diff hist −2 User talk:I JethroBT (WMF) →Opposed: ce
19:0419:04, 4 June 2016 diff hist +1,100 User talk:I JethroBT (WMF) →Opposed: :::::Rhetoric? You don't think it's going to affect the responses that you get when you have a page full of supporters and no doubters? You don't think that a doubter, after reading a proposal, will see that they're the only opposition and
18:5518:55, 4 June 2016 diff hist +592 Grants:IdeaLab/Reduce attack pages which get picked up by other sites Endorsed by TParis
18:4618:46, 4 June 2016 diff hist +69 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Add ignore functionality →Comments from TParis: 'just walk away' culture for users that feel harassed. They would leave the discussion that they feel attacked
18:4518:45, 4 June 2016 diff hist +697 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Add ignore functionality →Comments from TParis: ::::::::::I think you're continuing to demonstrate that this ignore button will assist users in railroading their personal views and goals ahead of project goals and they'll ignore anyone who disagrees with them. The goals of t
18:3918:39, 4 June 2016 diff hist +290 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Add ignore functionality →Comments from TParis: ::::::::::I think you're continuing to demonstrate that this ignore button will assist users in railroading their personal views and goals ahead of project goals and they'll ignore anyone who disagrees with them.--~~~~
18:3618:36, 4 June 2016 diff hist +271 User talk:TParis →"Opposed": ::::::I think you have too much faith in other people to stick with your goals and not take an opportunity to advance their own. How would you select blocked/banned users and contact them?--~~~~
05:4905:49, 4 June 2016 diff hist +375 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Don't feed the trolls →Problems with the "Don't feed the trolls" practice.: :I'm not sure how it works on Meta wikipedia, but on EN administrators are responsible for the buttons that they push. If I had a CSD tag that didn't apply, I'd remove it - staffer or not. But my
02:0202:02, 4 June 2016 diff hist +428 N Grants talk:IdeaLab/Making it an option to 'flag' an editor, after which a moderator would come and see whether the user should be blocked Once again, another terrible idea from this lab. This idea fails because it deprives the "flagged user" of due process. There is already a process for receiving a review of user conduct and it is en:WP:ANI. There absolutely should never be a secret
01:5801:58, 4 June 2016 diff hist +1,713 User talk:I JethroBT (WMF) →Opposed: :::Well, then, there is no point to discussion. You're going to push through with the "we must do something" mindset and you're going to crash hard just like VisualEditor and MediaViewer did and we'll once again have a discussion about how

3 June 2016

23:5523:55, 3 June 2016 diff hist +282 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Don't feed the trolls →Problems with the "Don't feed the trolls" practice.: ****You can now add pages deleted under false criteria by User:Matiia. Used G1, which is for test edits. I didn't see "doesn't fit WMF narrative" in that cr
23:0823:08, 3 June 2016 diff hist +1 User talk:TParis sp
23:0823:08, 3 June 2016 diff hist +138 User talk:TParis →"Opposed": ::::Hey, didn't realize you were Koh. Good to meet you.--~~~~
22:5222:52, 3 June 2016 diff hist +1,199 User talk:TParis →"Opposed": You have my begrudging support if only because I don't want to be disruptive. But, that Jimbo discussion was a misunderstanding. I know who Kohs is and I know he and Jimmy aren't drinking buddies, but I hadn't realized that he's explicit
20:4120:41, 3 June 2016 diff hist +6 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Don't feed the trolls →Problems with the "Don't feed the trolls" practice.: have not been literally called a troll, only treated like one
20:3920:39, 3 June 2016 diff hist +4 User talk:TParis →"Opposed": ce
20:3920:39, 3 June 2016 diff hist +483 User talk:TParis →"Opposed": :I oppose the concept of moving the comments as undermining consensus building. Proudly displaying endorsements on the front page while hiding inconvenient opposes gives a false sense of support where it doesn't (necessarily) exist. No o
20:1620:16, 3 June 2016 diff hist +119 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Don't feed the trolls →Problems with the "Don't feed the trolls" practice.: What I am saying is, I've already been called a troll because I don't agree which is what I think your idea leads to.
20:1520:15, 3 June 2016 diff hist +527 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Don't feed the trolls →Problems with the "Don't feed the trolls" practice.: ***Yes, I've seen front-page endorsements while opposition is hidden on the back page. I've had my opinion called garbage because it doesn't fit the status quo. I've been told that if there were
20:1320:13, 3 June 2016 diff hist +281 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Add ignore functionality →Comments from TParis: :::::::Thank you, Ajr. Your comment edit conflicted with a comment from me that would have been rude and condescending and probably would've undermined my point. Yours presents my feelings much better.--~~~~
19:5619:56, 3 June 2016 diff hist +49 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Don't feed the trolls →Problems with the "Don't feed the trolls" practice.: When we institutionalize our response
19:5019:50, 3 June 2016 diff hist +399 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Don't feed the trolls →Problems with the "Don't feed the trolls" practice.: *There are significant problems with your idea, namely that 'trolling' and 'harassment' have such a vicious edge to them and are routinely misused to mean 'disagreement' and 'stuff I don't want to
19:4319:43, 3 June 2016 diff hist +222 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Add ignore functionality →Comments from TParis: You might laugh at the idea of an editor ignoring 1,500 administrators, but I could easily write a chrome script to do it automatically. That could be distributed on sites like reddit and then vandals could run rampant.
19:4119:41, 3 June 2016 diff hist +309 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Add ignore functionality →Comments from TParis: Also, another idea in this proposal is to ignore editor contributions in the article history. 1) What impact does that have on our attribution requirement in our content license? And 2) How are you going to ignore the line in
19:4019:40, 3 June 2016 diff hist +570 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Add ignore functionality →Comments from TParis: ::::Absolutely, you said my comment was garbage. If there was an ignore button, you'd likely have ignored me. That would've contributed to 1) Destroying collaboration, 2) Giving you a false sense of consensus, 3) caused you to
19:1419:14, 3 June 2016 diff hist +366 User talk:I JethroBT (WMF) →Opposed: :I'd like to point out that Ajr has demonstrated how your premise is a result of confirmation bias and how your process is engaging in experimenter bias. You're getting the results you want and anticipate because you're selectively removing
19:1019:10, 3 June 2016 diff hist +107 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Just do not care about it ::::This Ajr guy makes sense.--~~~~
19:0819:08, 3 June 2016 diff hist +453 User talk:I JethroBT (WMF) →Question: :::::No, Tom, your idea isn't a terrible one. It just doesn't fit into the "Safe space we must do something" narrative that is that proposal. You're not foolish, you're mature. The only foolish thing you've done is to believe that you'd
19:0519:05, 3 June 2016 diff hist +116 User talk:I JethroBT (WMF) →Opposed: Really, "safe spaces" are trash bins of terrible ideas. And the ignore button flies in the face of collaboration.
19:0419:04, 3 June 2016 diff hist +340 User talk:I JethroBT (WMF) →Opposed: new section
19:0219:02, 3 June 2016 diff hist +176 Grants talk:IdeaLab/Add ignore functionality →Comments from TParis: ::Thanks for demonstrating ''exactly why'' this idea won't work. I appreciate your demonstration.--~~~~
18:1218:12, 3 June 2016 diff hist +115 Grants:IdeaLab/Teach people to recognize and avoid committing harassment →Endorsements: Also, like the "ignore" feature, I don't think we should be promoting "I'm a victim" as a symbolic ignore button.
18:1118:11, 3 June 2016 diff hist +294 Grants:IdeaLab/Teach people to recognize and avoid committing harassment Endorsed by TParis
18:0918:09, 3 June 2016 diff hist +247 Grants:IdeaLab/Define Harassment before taking it head on. Endorsed by TParis
18:0818:08, 3 June 2016 diff hist +662 Grants:IdeaLab/Impacts on lives of the banned →Get involved: ===Oppose=== *20 participants isn't enough to gain real insight into this. It's more inclined to be an avenue of getting grudges openly aired and settling scores. Especially if selection bias plays into the picture in the selection pr
18:0318:03, 3 June 2016 diff hist +186 Grants:IdeaLab/Don't feed the trolls Endorsed by TParis
18:0018:00, 3 June 2016 diff hist +2 Grants:IdeaLab/Add ignore functionality →Opposed: 3rd level
18:0018:00, 3 June 2016 diff hist +12 Grants:IdeaLab/Add ignore functionality →Endorsements: Opposed
17:5917:59, 3 June 2016 diff hist +257 Grants:IdeaLab/Add ignore functionality →Endorsements: * While you're at it, delete en:WP:CONSENSUS and rewrite en:Wikipedia:About to say "Wikipedia is written <s>collaboratively</s> by a bunch of users ignoring each other..."--~~~~
17:5617:56, 3 June 2016 diff hist +73 Grants talk:IdeaLab/User blocking Like, I could even be blocked for this comment if the OP felt inclined. current

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