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Requests for global rollback permissions

Latest comment: 11 years ago 16 comments15 people in discussion

Global rollback for Glaisher

Status: Done

I would like to apply for global rollback as I have been active reverting vandalism and spam globally for several weeks. The rollback tool is more efficient than manually undoing and twinkle so this would make it much easier to revert nonsense/spam edits. Plus there are still some wikis where I have to install my global.js so TW is not there when needed most. --Glaisher [talk] 16:47, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Clear result, promoted. -Barras talk 17:21, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Requests for global sysop permissions

Latest comment: 11 years ago 68 comments39 people in discussion

Global sysop for Wim b

Status: Done

I was told by a steward to run for GS. Then I realised it would be quite useful to me since I'm active in SWMT and I use to ask almost daily for lock/block on #wikimedia-stewards. I have been a sysop on it.books since 2006, on it.wikt since 2007 ('crat since 2008), currently I'm also serving as sysop on it.voy mainly to start that project.--Wim b / [ t ] 18:02, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

  • I have rolled back your change. You cannot alter important global policies based on a 3 years old discussion. If for whatever reason it wasn't changed back then, you'd have to start a new discussion. Snowolf How can I help? 05:03, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Technically that's not possible, since GR is truly global, whereas GS is limited to GS wikis, and the way the groups are set up, you can't mix the two. --Rs chen 7754 07:25, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Done Rights granted. Amqui (talk) 03:40, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Comment Comment You forgot to grant global rollback rights. LlamaAl (talk) 04:00, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
There's been some debate about that, as noted above. --Rs chen 7754 04:02, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
@Rschen7754: I take it this isn't good enough? PiRSquared17 (talk) 11:51, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
@PiRSquared17: I don't think so as the candidate hasn't requested GR anywhere :) Vogone talk 12:03, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Global sysop for Jafeluv

Status: Done

Hi all, I'd like to reapply for global sysop rights. I was first granted GS in 2010 and was made a steward in 2011, but I eventually gave up both rights (and crosswiki work in general) in 2012(logs) to focus more on real-life obligations as well as a couple of big projects on my home wiki. Now that I have a bit more free time I've become more active in crosswiki stuff again, including countervandalism, spam hunting and some maintenance work such as image and category cleanup. GS rights would be useful if you feel I can still be trusted with the extra buttons :) Thanks, Jafeluv (talk) 13:11, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Done - 2 weeks elapsed, a full set of supports, so welcome back QuiteUnusual (talk) 14:05, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Requests for global editinterface permissions

Latest comment: 11 years ago 54 comments31 people in discussion

Global editinterface for Danny B.

Status: Not done

I already had this permission and it recently expired. Nowadays I'm again in need to edit script, stylesheets, gadgets and messages pages to do the maintenance. Thanks.

— Danny B. 21:26, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

Update:

The link provided by Vogone doesn't have a relevance, because it is missing the important context. And that is that the local rights were granted after GEI was granted.

As stated below, I have made 215 revisions to MediaWiki namespace on wikis where I did not have local rights before being granted GEI. And several others to protected stuff or userspace. That's nearly one edit per work day during the period.

When I applied for GEI, I first started to work on Slovak wikis, since they are the closest language to mine. Later on I have been granted admin rights there (so it is just coincidental concurrence of rights). Which obviously doesn't mean I stopped my work there and went somewhere else just to use the right because I have it to show some usage, since it hasn't been fully finished. But I edited on some other wikis too, either the MediaWiki namespace or protected or userspace stuff, both on my own and on demand from local people.

— Danny B. 18:20, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

  • But that's not the question. The question is whether you truly need them now.--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:26, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
    • If I didn't, I certainly wouldn't be asking for them.
      — Danny B. 18:35, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
      • But so far, you've provided no compelling evidence that you do (plus, your oppose !vote on Rschen's CheckUser access request on enwiki looks really bad, as you have provided no evidence whatsoever for your claims). Your comments here, in my opinion, show you've changed little since your failed Wikidata admin reconfirmation - also, please explain why you did not notify the granting steward after you received importer rights as requested (since you seem to be done).--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:40, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
        • Right removed. He seems to be done indeed and he can request it if he needs it again. Trijnstel talk 22:49, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
        • Beta Wikiversity is in principle the same project like Incubator (where import rights belong to bureaucrats automatically, beside the fact they can be granted and revoked locally, which was set exactly to avoid bureaucracy and rash actions from those not knowing the context and be rather self-sufficient thus flexible instead) - time to time something is being imported there from various projects. So the request was never inteded (thus not requested) for any temporary time frame but for the indefinite one, because it is obviously permanently time to time needed, although not necessarily often. Also, import rights are purely technical maintenance rights (such as editinterface) and are harmless and with no influence on the community unlike for instance global sysop, which is paradoxically obviously much easier to gain although it is way much bigger and potentially harmful power.
          — Danny B. 00:09, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
          • I do not see what is obvious here as you requested the importer right for a completely different reason: "I'd like to ask for import rights on beta Wikiversity to be able to move random Wikiversity pages there from Incubator where people sometimes create and edit them. Thanks." And just as a side note, betawikiversity is more than just an Incubator for new wikis(, at least it pretends to be). Vogone talk 00:23, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
          • You got the importer rights temporary and Dungodung explicitly asked if you tell them when you were done so the rights could be removed. You never did that and no one ever removed them. If you wish to have them permanently, then post a new request. And regarding your email: I don't care that someone asked yesterday if you could import a page. And I don't like communicating via email while this can be pointed out onwiki. Email isn't transparant. This page is. Trijnstel talk 11:52, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose strong oppose per behavior on Czech / Slovak wikis and failed Wikidata admin reconfirmation. --Rs chen 7754 21:49, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose Strong oppose per Rschen7754. The behavior at that admin reconfirmation was outright unbecoming of a holder of any advanced permissions. In addition, I do not believe Danny really needs it, given the rationale for his previous request was similar to this, but he almost never used the permission at all.--Jasper Deng (talk) 21:52, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
    • Comment Comment while I do respect opposers here but I don't see the relevance, I have been working with Danny for long time I don't believe he is going to do something harmful with Global editinterface Mardetanha talk 17:58, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
      • Well, he could potentially use the rights on Wikidata; it's my opinion that he must demonstrate ability to work with foreign communities in order to receive a global right.--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:33, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support, he is very technically oriented and I think, that these rights well be really used for good. --G3ron1mo (talk) 16:58, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose According to luxo:Danny B. he hasn't done any edit under the rationale for which he hold that right before (except on wikis where he has local rights, anyway). I doubt there is actually any need for him to have access to the tools globally. Vogone talk 18:00, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • (削除) Neutral Neutral (削除ここまで) Mardetanha makes a good point, although Danny B. has already so many rights for me to support another request, and according to Vogone, there is no current history of usage of the tool. — ΛΧΣ 21 18:02, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral per link given by Vogone. --Stryn (talk) 19:42, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Question: several users above state that you don't seem to have used your global editinterface permission. Could you kindly provide a couple of recent examples of usage or address the issue? Snowolf How can I help? 23:02, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
    • (with edit conflict with MF-W below) According to the statistical data taken from the Toolserver databases, during being in GEI group, I made 215 edits in MediaWiki namespace on wikis where I did not have such permission before being granted the global edit interface permission. I also remember several edits to protected pages (that's hardly trackable to get statistical data easily though) and I assume some edits to user scripts or stylesheets too, as I'm being asked time to time by users to fix or create some stuff for them. According to the same data source, I have 1500 edits in MediaWiki namespace in total and obviously uncounted bunch of edits of protected and userspace as described before.
      — Danny B. 00:41, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
      • Please provide diffs for those (remember, the concern was that you were not using it outside wikis where your sysop access already allowed it).--Jasper Deng (talk) 00:45, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
      • While that data is useful, it doesn't really address the concern raised, which were actions made with the permission, rather than with your local admin bit. A couple of diffs from earlier this year would be helpful in putting this concern to rest. Snowolf How can I help? 22:02, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Like Mardetanha I don't think the Wikidata election has much relevance here. I have been a sysop alongside Danny B. on Incubator for years and there has never been an occasion to complain about abusive behaviour or so; also not, as far as I am aware, about his past use of global editinterface. However, it would be nice to get some examples of the use of that right to see what would be done with it & so that one can't say: "if you don't use it, you can also not abuse it". --MF-W 00:12, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support. As I remember, all problematic edits of Danny B. as sysop were about deleting something, not about editing something protected. So the oppose votes seems irrelevant for me. JAn Dudík (talk) 21:14, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Kolega2357 (talk) 21:18, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support, -jkb- 23:49, 12 August 2013 (UTC) - knowing hin and his work from some projects like wikisource.cs; otherwise see G3ron1mo and JAn Dudík
  • Oppose Oppose per Rschen and Vogone. --Alan (talk) 12:30, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support I very doubt that he will misuse the right. In areas where I worked together with him he was always trustworthy. If he says he need the right (and he had it even before), I see no reason to not give it to him. --DaB. (talk) 14:14, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support, has done good work in the past and generally has done work for Wikimania wikis that get overlooked. I would also suggest the Wikimania Local Team or future Wikimania Committee add a Technical Committee to the effort (modeled after the existing Program Committee and related), to help with wiki maintenance and perhaps other technical functions. --Varnent (talk)(COI) 21:59, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Looking over the top points, I have to Oppose Oppose. While I have no concern that Danny B will misuse the rights, the fact he has never used the rights (if so, not enough to back up usage again). So I mainly oppose per Vogone. John F. Lewis (talk) 13:40, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral per link given by Vogone.--Steinsplitter (talk) 16:06, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose per Danny B.'s revenge !vote at Rschen's enwiki Checkuser request. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 19:18, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support technically oriented, skilled and very helpful user, who already helped us many times, so we would welcome a lot his ability to help us again. --Bubamara (talk) 20:15, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --cyrfaw (talk) 12:32, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment. Danny B. still has not answered the question of whether he has used this permission (during the last year) outside wikis where he is a local sysop. If not, then it should be removed per inactivity. Ruslik (talk) 15:46, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support per above. I find it unlikely he's going to abuse the tools, and even if he does, the tools can be removed in two clicks. -FASTILY 02:14, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose per above, especially AutomaticStrikeout. WorldTraveller101 (talk) 17:05, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support per Fastly and a few others. All of the concerns here seem irrelevant to the requested right. Set some guidelines such as don't use right on wikidata for at least n months, or whatnot... Technical 13 (talk) 17:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support as per the others. Jianhui67 (talk) 02:11, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
  • & as the queries asking for specific examples of usage outside of the wikis where the user has since obtained sysop have gone unanswered and as the user has a history of combative behavior, which in an user of a permission where one is advised to tread carefully given its lack of a true global policy regulating its use is not something I look very favorably upon. Snowolf How can I help? 21:18, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Not done requests by stewards for diffs have not been presented after four weeks, so closing this as incomplete, no further action required. Once clear evidence is presented of a continuing need for GEI rights, please open a new request. — billinghurst sDrewth 16:49, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Well, I don't have any other further information than public records where all diffs are publicly available for whoever on wikis where I have account, so whoever can check the relevant edits in MediaWiki namespace (which I mentioned twice) or .css/.js pages in user namespace on those wikis. I can't provide any other "secret" diffs since they do not exist. I also don't have any idea how to present the "evidence of a continuing need", which in other words is evidence of something from the future, other way then saying that I need it to my work (aka I can't show you my fingerprint on given thing, just tell you that I am going to touch it), otherwise I wouldn't obviously ask (which I also stated). Also, comments from users who supported this request because they knew I am going to use it on their wikis, which might be a sort of such evidence, have been obviously overlooked.
— Danny B. 17:34, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Global editinterface for Hkjacksonhk

Status: Not done

I need this permission for editing Wy/zh's Sitenotice and working on this site, thanks, --Hkjacksonhk (talk) 12:48, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Please request the "translator" right locally on Incubator. Thank you. Vogone talk 12:55, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
I would have to agree, this is too broad a right for such a narrowly-scoped request. --Rs chen 7754 00:41, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
ok!--Hkjacksonhk (talk) 11:18, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Not done Ruslik (talk) 09:55, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Requests for global IP block exemption

Latest comment: 11 years ago 32 comments16 people in discussion

Global IP block exempt for 燃玉

Status: Done

I'm Ranyv(燃玉) from Chinese Wikipedia. For editing wiki-project, I have to use goagent to keep every page available.I'm a Sysop of Chinese Wikipedia, but I still can't edit other Projects like Chinese Wikivoyage, English Wikipedia and other projects.I want to participate more in other wikimedia projects, so I'd like to request a global IP exemption, thanks, --燃玉 (Ranyv talk) 14:57, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Done --MF-W 18:23, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Global IP block exempt for Great Brightstar

Status: Not done

Because of the Internet censorship in the People's Republic of China and Great Firewall of China, I can't access to some of Wikimedia Projects pages (such as Wikidata) directly, so I have to use proxy visit wikipedia sometimes, thanks, --Great Brightstar (talk) 09:39, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

global-ipblock-exempt has already been assigned to this user. See archive and log --Glaisher [talk] 11:27, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Not done Already assigned. Ruslik (talk) 16:09, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
Sorry. --Great Brightstar (talk) 18:13, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Global IP block exempt for Petrb

Status: Done

I get Editing from your IP address (xxxxxxxxx) has been blocked (disabled) on all Wikimedia wikis until 01:25, 11 November 2013 by MF-Warburg (meta.wikimedia.org) for the following reason: crosswiki spam when I am using my vpn in office (which is required for irc to work) --Petrb (talk) 15:27, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Done, as discussed on irc. Trijnstel talk 15:33, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Global IP block exempt for Cyrusbot and Cyrus the virus

Status: Not done

Since a few days, possibly I am suffering from an IP blocking for my bot [| Cyrusbot] and my user [| Cyrus the virus] in Kurdish dictionary. With my Cyrusbot I did nearly 200.000 edits and nearly 100.000 creations, but I had never suffered from such restrictions or blockings. But now I can't do any bot actions neither with Cyrusbot, nor my username Cyrus the Virus. Is there any blocking? Restrictions? [| Cyrus the virus] --88.254.87.249 21:06, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

See also User talk:Trijnstel#Question About Cyrusbot. Trijnstel talk 21:11, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Taking into account that the bot only edits kuwiktionary, it only needs a local exemption. Ruslik (talk) 19:05, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Local exemption granted. Ruslik (talk) 12:24, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
@Cyrus the virus: please check if you can edit again with your bot now, if so I'll give you an exempt for your main account too. If not, something else should be wrong. Trijnstel talk 13:10, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
No, problem still exists, at least for this IP. I tried from this current IP but I am again getting "Insufficient rights to edit page [page_name]". Do I need try from a specific IP, e.g. above IP. Because I was doing my edit and creations from my home computer and you may gave exemption for that IP. If so I will also try in my home computer. I tried in my home computer and problem still exists. So what is your suggestion. [| Cyrus the virus] --85.110.223.79 20:21, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Local exemption removed as this clearly doesn't solve it. Let me think. Trijnstel talk 20:25, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Trijnstel, The problem is persisting and I am still waiting for a solution or suggestion.[| Cyrus the virus]/--88.254.93.13 18:33, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
I still have no idea... what kind of programming languague do you use? Maybe it has to do something with that. Trijnstel talk 19:49, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Or... someone suggested it might have something to do with HTTPS (by default since 28 August). Maybe that's why? Trijnstel talk 19:53, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
You can try: disable HTTPS via the instructions on HTTPS#Disabling. (Or try to login somewhere else) Trijnstel talk 19:55, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Yeahh, that was the problem. I am using DotNetWikiBot wrapper. Replacing "http:", with "https:" solved the problem. Thank you so much. [| Cyrus the virus]/--88.254.93.13 22:16, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Perfect. Will close this then. Trijnstel talk 22:18, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Global IP block exempt for Andrew_Vi

Status: Done

Sorry to trouble, as same as the other users from China, because of the Internet censorship in the People's Republic of China and Great Firewall of China, I surf the non-Chinese website with proxy (Open proxy: hosting on dreamhost.com), so I can't edit any page on the Wikimedia Projects pages (such as en.wikipedia.org) directly. I have a hosting plan on dh, so I deployed the proxy with it. :D --Andrew Vi (talk) 09:59, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

I am inclined to grant this request. Ruslik (talk) 12:03, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
confirmed that they are blocked by a range block. I am not adverse to granting the right. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:11, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Done QuiteUnusual (talk) 15:22, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Global IP block exempt for Chaosconst

Status: Locally handled

I have already been added to Global IP Block exempt list, since here, BUT I still can not edit pages from proxy. Please check your settings? Or there is still something I need to do? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chaosconst (talk) 08:29, 9 September 2013

Could you please give us the block message you're getting? I think it might be a local hard block or so. A global-ipblock-exempt only circumvents global blocks iirc, so you should also get a local ipblock-exempt. (@other stewards, correct me if I'm wrong please) Trijnstel talk 10:20, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
message is here:http://www.ygclub.org/wiki/images/7/7c/Block_msg.png Chaosconst (talk) 11:16, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Were you logged in when you saw this? Because you have a global exempt - for the g-block - and the local block on enwp is anon-only. Trijnstel talk 20:30, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
I can edit en.wikipedia.org when I logged in now, thank you! but I can not edit Chinese Wikipedia even if I have logged in, any suggestion? message is here: http://www.ygclub.org/wiki/images/2/20/Wikipedia_block_chinese.png
Local block, I asked the sysop to check: [1]. You may want to take the image down and tell him your IP privately. --Nemo 09:09, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
I don't think the block should be changed. @Chaosconst: request a local exempt on zhwiki please. Trijnstel talk 16:39, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Most if not all Google ranges are blocked on zhwiki which is supposed to prevent users from using Google AppEngine. I've given Chaosconst a local ipbe. Jimmy Xu (talk) 16:48, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, then I close this as locally resolved. Trijnstel talk 17:28, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

Other requests

Latest comment: 11 years ago 3 comments3 people in discussion

Removal of Ombudsman for Deskana

Status: Done

I am now a contractor for the Wikimedia Foundation (Associate Product Manager for Platform). This creates a conflict of interest with my role as a member of the Ombudsman Commission. Since the Ombudsman Commission is doing very well right now and will likely continue to function at its current pace without me, I think the simplest thing to do is to resign from the Ombudsman Commission. Thanks. --Deskana (talk) 16:41, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

  • To second this request, the Wikimedia Foundation is - of course - aware of Deskana's position on this and supports it. The OC agrees that they can function until the end of the term as they are, and we'll take steps should it turn out they need additional assistance. --Maggie Dennis (WMF) (talk) 16:43, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

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