Stewards/Confirm/2024/علاء: Difference between revisions

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• Keep Keep --Stïnger (会話) 14:15, 6 February 2024 (UTC).[reply ]
• Keep Keep--Vituzzu (talk) 14:27, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Always kind and helpful. EPIC (talk) 16:11, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep JrandWP (talk) 16:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Titore (talk) 17:20, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
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• (削除) Question Question: (削除ここまで) @علاء: What was your involvement in removing from public view the usernames of the editors who installed a mass-logout script in the Arabic Wikipedia's common.js file? — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 17:50, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

  @Red-tailed hawk, sysop-level hide per community request. I'm sysop on Arabic Wikipedia --Alaa :)..! 19:40, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

  Thank you for the quick reply. I do have one follow-up question @Alaa: Did you, at any point, add content to the common.js script or otherwise modify any script on the Arabic Wikipedia that resulted in users being unexpectedly logged out from their accounts? My assumption here is no, because you revdel'd the edits, but I do want to double-check. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 19:48, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

  To clarify as to why I am asking: I find the use of an enforced logout script (as opposed to something like a custom edit filter) as both reckless (inasumch as it would potentially expose IPs) and an extraordinary overreach by a local wiki (inasmuch as it logged people out of global accounts). The means of conducting the blackout were not well thought-through, and the implementation of that script honestly did jeopardize user privacy. If the answer is "no, I did not implement the mass-logout script", then I would be happy to support keeping. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 19:59, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

  Red-tailed hawk, sorry to say, but it's not that simple, because I tried to fix/remove the script per this request. I helped in my capacity as arwiki interface administrator. Also, I mentioned in the SMR regarding arwiki discussion, that "I did not participate in the discussion (due to personal circumstances)" --Alaa :)..! 20:25, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

  @علاء Could you comment on what options you chose (in the revdel form) during revdelling the edits you mentioned above ? I'm pretty sure the edits have been oversighted (two strikes over a piece of information tends to indicate oversighted data on MediaWiki wikis). Sohom (talk) 20:11, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

  @Sohom Datta: The oversight came only after the revdels, by a different user, if I'm understanding them correctly. There was a log of the revdels at [1] which can be confirmed by looking at the internet archive or archive.today, but the log itself has since been revdel'd. I'm satisfied when the user says that they performed a sysop-level hide. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 20:16, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

  @Sohom, as mentioned above, that my action is a "sysop-level hide" not an "oversight". --Alaa :)..! 20:24, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

  @Red-tailed hawk Oh right, point taken. I had interpreted the answer differently and though they were refering to the singular action of removing the edits from public view. (I was not aware of the seperate revdel logs). Sohom (talk) 20:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

  Comment Non-steward comment Related: Steward requests/Miscellaneous/2023-12#Arabic Wikipedia protest forced logout script and Requests for comment/Violating the Neutral point of view in Arabic Wiki. Novak Watchmen (talk) 19:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

• Keep Keep Taivo (talk) 18:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep--— Osama Eid ^(talk) 18:30, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep -- Maximillion Pegasus (talk) 18:44, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep--Atlante (talk) 19:05, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Novak Watchmen (talk) 19:07, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Neutral Neutral, Alaa's conduct during the arwiki mass-logout script removal discussion has not left a good impression on me.(削除) lose confidence in their adherence to the Steward policy, particularly to section 3 (conflict of interest/impartiality) and section 4 (transperancy). (削除ここまで) Sohom (talk) 19:10, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Ruthven (msg) 19:40, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Alaa is highly trusted user and very committed to the steward policy.--Faisal ^talk 19:48, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep * Pppery * _{it has begun} 19:49, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep--باسم (talk) 19:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep--Always avilable to provide support for admins.Michel Bakni (talk) 19:52, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep--Freedom's Falcon (talk) 19:57, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep He has a very impressive activity as a steward over the past years.--Ibrahim.ID ✪ 20:09, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Mohammed Qays (talk) 20:12, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep. Very active and trusted user.--Dr-Taher (talk) 20:19, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Good, creative and active user, good luck. أمين (talk) 20:29, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 20:30, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Ingenuity (talk) 20:45, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

• Keep Weak keep The user is not the one who first installed the mass-logout script, and I frankly can't hold the rest against them. They've been transparent here about their role, and they are an active Steward. That the script was not immediately disabled as an emergency action is regrettable, particularly so after several alternatives were very quickly presented, but I don't think it's enough to warrant removal for a Steward who has contributed so much to the community. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 20:46, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keepأبو هشام (talk) 20:50, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Nehaoua (talk) 21:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep —Yahya (talk • contribs.) 21:24, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
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• Keep Keep Prodraxis _(talk) 22:07, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep – Aca (talk) 23:29, 6 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep. كريم رائد (talk) 00:04, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Spicy (talk) 00:50, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep--Amr F.Nagy (talk) 01:01, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep--ولاء (talk) 02:27, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --_USSR-Slav (СССР-Слав) (talk) 03:00, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Mtarch11 (talk) 05:43, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep The best possible representative for a huge area like the Arab world. Ahmed Naji ^Talk 09:35, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep I'd rather keep the neutrality and logout script issues separate from Alaa's conduct as a steward - the latter is what we're focusing on and I can't find any issues there. The other issues are relevant to the ar.wiki community as a whole, and it would be inappropriate for that to effect Alaa (after all, it's not like he decides them per se). Leaderboard (talk) 09:46, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Mr. Ibrahem (talk) 10:41, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Lolekek (talk) 10:44, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Tmv (talk) 10:48, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Lookruk 💬 (Talk) 12:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --cyrfaw (talk) 13:23, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Wutsje (talk) 14:45, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep per Leaderboard. -- CptViraj (talk) 14:51, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Ocelot (talk) 16:40, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --☠︎Quinlan83☠︎ ^{(You talkin' to me?)} 19:59, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:26, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep--Mr.Karhi (talk) 21:17, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Remove Remove I am sorry, but I have often encountered suspicious activity by him on the Arabic Wikipedia. For example, the site was recently blocked from editing for 24 hours and disconnected all users, which it took part in (and hiding any username that was related to the matter, against the policy). Neriah - 💬 - 21:19, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

  @علاء is not an involved party in that case. Please be careful before you vote. Lemonaka (talk) 10:08, 11 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

  "not an involved party in that case"? And what about deleting the name of the sysop who deleted the name of the user who did the action[2]? In addition, if I remember correctly he took part in writing the code in common.js.
  I would be happy if Alaa would address the matter. Neriah - 💬 - 14:27, 16 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

• Keep Keep--Mishary94 (talk) 22:25, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep--Sakretsu (炸裂) 23:23, 7 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Remove Remove. --UA0Volodymyr (talk) 07:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep, huge thanks to all your contributions over the years. Keep going! دنيا (talk) 10:07, 8 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep, Mahmood (talk) 10:37, 8 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Java Hurricane 11:48, 8 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep.--Mohamed Belgazem (talk) 13:27, 8 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Carlomorino (talk) 15:34, 8 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Kind, helpful and active Wikimedian. --Sandra HANBO (talk) 19:26, 8 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Ameisenigel (talk) 20:29, 8 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Remove Remove.--Fenikals (talk) 21:20, 8 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep علاء is a positive voice in the global community because of, not in spite of, their connections to arwiki. –MJL ‐Talk‐ ^☖ 23:26, 8 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep PawełMM (talk) 17:36, 9 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Great work Seawolf35 (talk) 20:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Also quite satisfied with their steward work. ChrisWx 🌀 (talk - contribs) 04:42, 10 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Kadı Message 13:45, 10 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep--*Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page ♮ 23:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Remove Remove--Sakiv (talk) 04:22, 11 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Sennecaster (talk) 04:26, 11 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep 94rain ^Talk 05:13, 11 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Denis Barthel (talk) 13:14, 11 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --حبيشان (talk) 15:40, 11 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Lemonaka (talk) 00:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Elli (talk) 15:35, 12 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Zangala (talk) 20:23, 12 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep. --Wolverène (talk) 08:38, 13 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Vanderwaalforces (talk) 20:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Jan Myšák (talk) 08:42, 14 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep, thanks to all your contributions. batoul84 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:43, 14 February 2024 (UTC) .[reply ]
• Keep Keep --Meno25 (talk) 15:43, 14 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep --Harlock81 (talk) 20:36, 14 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep very active steward with great work and great common sense, always helpful and nice --Tehonk (talk) 22:02, 14 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Jianhui67 ^{talk ★contribs} 14:38, 15 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep Mervat (talk) 18:58, 15 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep —MdsShakil (talk) 13:28, 16 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep -Fastily 21:59, 17 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Remove Remove - Aizenr (talk) 06:31, 19 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Remove Remove - Bizarre behavior. —— SerialNumber 54129 13:50, 19 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep.—Teles «Talk ˱_{C L @ S} ˲» 14:54, 19 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Keep Keep –FlyingAce ^✈hello 21:12, 19 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
• Support Support, helpful as a steward. ~~~~
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• Keep Keep One bad JS edit does not a removal reason make.--Jasper Deng (talk) 06:59, 20 February 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

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