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Random proposal ► ◄ Citations The survey has concluded. Here are the results!

Allow citations to be edited in the references section with VisualEditor

Problem: In VisualEditor, it is not possible to directly change the text of citations at the end of the article. Instead each citation in the article body must be clicked and edited individually. This makes the whole process very tedious and more complicated than it needs to be.
Proposed solution: Allow citations and footnotes to be edited using VisualEditor directly in the references section.
Who would benefit: People who want to change information in citations.
More comments:
Phabricator tickets: phab:T54750
Proposer: Blidfried (talk) 13:52, 27 January 2023 (UTC) [reply ]

Discussion

Original German proposal:
Problem: Es ist nicht möglich den Text von Einzelnachweisen am Ende des Artikels direkt zu ändern, stattdessen muss jeder Einzelnachweis im Text einzeln angeklickt und bearbeitet werden. Das macht die ganze Bearbeitung sehr langwierig und komplizierter als sie sein müsste.
Lösungsvorschlag: Es sollte eine Möglichkeit geschaffen werden, dass Fußnoten direkt Bearbeitet werden könne, so wie etwa bei Microsoft Word.
Wem würde dieser Wunsch helfen: Jedem
Copied by MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 03:14, 6 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
So with itemizations, you mean references or footnotes, and by editing you mean using the visual editor? --Matěj Suchánek (talk) 11:31, 29 January 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
@Matěj Suchánek: I'm pretty sure they mean references, yes. I've copied the original German proposal above. We have a German speaker on our team that I can ask to engage with this user, if need be. I know VE already lets you edit references, so I'm guessing they are using the 2010 editor. If those assumptions are true, I wonder about feasibility. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 03:14, 6 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
The German text makes it more clear now.

I know VE already lets you edit references – that's true, but the point is: each itemization in the text must be clicked and edited individually. So I believe this is indeed related to visual editor.

--Matěj Suchánek (talk) 07:31, 6 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]

@@Blidfried: Danke für dein Proposal! Wir würden gern sicher stellen, dass wir Deinen Vorschlag richtig verstanden haben. Beziehst du dich auch den Visual Editor? Füge gern noch so viele Details wie möglich hinzu um Dein Proposal aussagekräftiger zu machen. KSiebert (WMF) (talk) 13:41, 7 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Ja, richtig im Visual Editor. Ich möchte gerne die Fußnoten am Ende der Seite direkt anklicken könne. Blidfried (talk) 13:43, 7 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]

Voting

Support Support It should be possible to edit all refs (also those defined in References section). MarMi wiki (talk) 19:50, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Xbypass (talk) 19:52, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Alexcs114 (talk) 20:57, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Tom Ja (talk) 21:01, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support SeGiba (talk) 21:02, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support I routinely use list-defined references to keep citation clutter out of article bodies but the visual editor does not yet support these. Andrew D. (talk) 21:11, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support --Barcelona (talk) 21:22, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support TLSOSLT (talk) 21:22, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Joalpe (talk) 21:47, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support TJ Ryba (talk) 22:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Geert Van Pamel (WMBE) (talk) 22:23, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 22:32, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Magnoliasouth (talk) 22:42, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Chetvorno (talk) 22:45, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support This change would be helpful because the citation numbering in VisualEditor is different from the normal article view as it skips some template-generated citations. However, this ability to edit such citations may make it difficult to implement directly clicking on the reference list BluePenguin18 🐧 ( 💬 ) 23:04, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support NMaia (talk) 23:17, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support All references should be able to be edited. Jj1691 (talk) 23:34, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Huge support, it is very tedious to edit these citations. HeyElliott (talk) 23:48, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support much needed BhamBoi (talk) 00:01, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Actually, I forgot to add a wishlist item here before the time was up, so I'll add it in a reply to my comment here because it is tangentially related. VisualEditor interface for templates while editing in an efn or infobox, where you are stuck in source mode. Should be opt-in. But if you type {{ while editing in a template, it will pop up with the visual template search/selection screen, and then a visual parameter editing interface. BhamBoi (talk) 00:08, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support That would be a very welcome improvement Skimel (talk) 00:20, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Salem Ander (talk) 00:23, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support. A very good ideea. --NGC 54 (talk|contribs) 00:40, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Klein Muçi (talk) 00:46, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support As long as all possible methods of citation (WP:CITEVAR) are supported, it would be a boon to editors (especially FA editors). LunafreyaLaphicet (talk) 00:48, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Hyruspex (talk)
Support Support Yeeno (talk) 01:57, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support ワーナー成増 (talk) 02:13, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support XtexChooser (talk) 02:36, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Hehua (talk) 02:50, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support VarietyEditor (talk) 03:29, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support * Pppery * _{it has begun} 03:44, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support It is irritating for me every time to look at the references and turn on the editor - and then the references are just gone. When you want to correct references, this behavior of the editor is not nice, it does not comply with the rule wysiwyg. T. Wirbitzki (talk) 04:39, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Libcub (talk) 05:57, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Soumendrak (talk) 06:17, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Janhrach (talk) 07:06, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support St. Andrews Drive (talk) 07:12, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Nuretok (talk) 07:14, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Doktor Züm (talk) 07:18, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Support Support Jurbop (talk) 07:41, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]

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