Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography

I recently had a draft rejected for the follwing reason [1]:

"unsuccessful assassinations or kidnappings are not notable on Wikipedia unless of a high degree or involves personalities who have a page on Wikipedia - it is not similar to an assassination/kidnapping plot of a popular world leader (US, Australia, Brazil) that would draw worldwide attraction. Lastly, why the article is "rejected" is because the victim of the kidnapping plot does not even have a page on Wikipedia which otherwise would have qualified for a merge."

Is this the applicable standard? In this draft article, the intended victim was a somewhat obscure government official, the perpetrators were conspiracy theorists, the plot was utterly ludicrous, however it did receive significant coverage in reliable sources in the UK, and in local media where the crime took place. Footage of the crime and the judgment were broadcast on the UK's Sky News (a news-corp subsidiary).

Perhaps I'm out of touch with standards, but this really does look like a notable subject. Should I continue editing this article or give up?

Salimfadhley (talk) 02:05, 23 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@Salimfadhley That is a poor decline rationale, and we have no such rules about kidnapping plots to my knowledge. Those types of crimes absolutely can be notable in some circumstances, and there are no crimes that are always notable. The issue is this specific case does not have great sourcing, Sky News is not reliable and the coverage is not in depth. For notability for this kind of thing, read WP:NEVENT. I do not think this particular topic is notable. PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:23, 23 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Thanks, on that basis, unless I can find some better sources I will leave this topic alone. Salimfadhley (talk) 21:16, 3 March 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

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