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Welcome!

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Happy editing! Peaceray (talk) 17:09, 29 June 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

New message to Wh1pla5h99

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Sorry about that message, I misread what your edit was. All's well. Remsense 🌈 11:58, 11 July 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Nomination of Ateba Gautier for deletion

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CS1 error on Jack the Ripper

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Jack the Ripper

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Hi. Thanks for your edits on the Jack the Ripper page. Hope you did not feel uncomfortable with the edit summary I made (but I can understand if you did but it was not my intention). Consensus governs as per the community, and the article has over 1,450 watchers and is FA status. I note you have only been active on here for six months. Hope you stay. All I would suggest is if you make major edits to an article as watched as this it may be best if you do them piece by piece so not only will extensive work not potentially be lost if consensus is to revert but it will be easier for editors to scrutinize. :) Thanks again, and all the best. K. Kieronoldham (talk) 01:43, 27 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Not at all, I mistakenly published some very premature changes the other day so I understand the concern. Will take that advice on board. Having said that, I can't think of any reason for a revert (besides minor typos etc.), at least as far as the referencing changes per WP:DUPREF are concerned. All the best. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 01:49, 27 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]
No worries. All the best for 2026. Key.--Kieronoldham (talk) 01:52, 27 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]
And you. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 01:54, 27 December 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Hi, can you take care of this, following MOS? Talk:Giorgia Meloni#who she said, "with the boards of their own examples, built the ladder that today allows me to climb and break the heavy glass ceiling placed over our heads". Thanks.

Recent edits

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January 2026

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for WP:GAMING, as you did at User talk:Wh1pla5h99.
If you believe that there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Ad Orientem (talk) 04:29, 12 January 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
From WP:GAME: If an editor finds and uses a loophole or trick that allows them to evade community standards or misuse administrator tools, it should not be treated the same as a good-faith mistake. However, Wikipedia sanctions are meant to be preventative, not punitive. A warning from an administrator is usually the best way to prevent gaming, because a clear warning should help correct both good-faith mistakes and bad-faith games. If an editor ignores a warning and repeats their behavior, or if they find new creative ways to achieve the same disruption, it is likely that editor is gaming the system in bad faith. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 05:39, 12 January 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Block appeal

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Request reason:

I now understand that Wikipedia:Gaming the system is an offence, and a blockable one. Specifically, I was spam-editing my own talk page, which I was naively unaware was being monitored. My intention was not to raise my access level for editing; I was actually trying to access the Wikipedia Library, to read a particular article in Oxford Reference (Language For Specific Purposes - relating to WP articles I have been editing), and I got a little impatient (it requires 500 edits). Had I received warning prior to this block I would certainly have heeded the warning (in fact I did stop as soon as my edits were reverted). Per WP:GAME: "A warning from an administrator is usually the best way to prevent gaming". As my past edits will show, I am committed to the overall improvement of this website. I would be very grateful if that commitment is not thrown away because of this lapse of judgement. I can assure you that I won't engage in any manipulation again. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 05:07, 12 January 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Accept reason:

Unblock request accepted per explanation and promise not to repeat. Ad Orientem (talk) 05:57, 12 January 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

You have been unblocked per above. Happy editing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:59, 12 January 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
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You want it? I can't give it to you until you've said so. 'Twas very helpful in the SPI I just closed. Toadspike [Talk] 09:05, 13 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

@Toadspike I do yes. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 10:15, 13 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Thanks, done. Here's the template with some info you might need:
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Contentious topic alert

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Incivility

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Hello Wh1pla5h99,

I find your incivility toward M.Bitton quite intolerable and counterproductive; not to mention it goes against the very principals you claim to defend. NorthernWinds ❄️ (talk) 20:16, 20 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

@Wh1pla5h99, I see you've been warned about this behaviour on a number of occaisons. Comments like Special:Diff/1350605762, Special:Diff/1350602635 and Special:Diff/1350604206 are unhelpful and do nothing else than raise the heat of discussion. Please stop. TarnishedPath talk 00:24, 23 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Thanks for your advice, but that was and is my position with regards to flippant comments from certain quarters. It was addressed and we have moved on; no need to pile on in my talk page after the fact. Thanks. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 00:29, 23 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
I came here to say the same thing. Personal attacks, even on editors who are uncivil to you or others, undermine this project - and also undermine the case you are trying to make. Please avoid commenting on editors and comment only on the content. BobFromBrockley (talk) 02:49, 23 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Again, there was no attack. I simply see no reason to continue engaging with an editor who is clearly WP:NOTHERE. Won't speak on this any more. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 07:52, 23 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
You've been repeatedly warned about incivility and yet you just posted Special:Diff/1350869445. Are you at any point going to stop? TarnishedPath talk 14:54, 24 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
In all honesty I think you are completely bombarding my talk page with nonsense, and if you don't stop you can be sure I will take it to AN. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 15:36, 24 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Hey Wh1pla5h99, I trust you find this critique more palatable, as it originates from those of a commensurate perspective. I posit that your comment was flagrantly uncivil; I would even delineate it as analogous to M.Bitton's asperity whose ubiquity you yourself have heretofore chronicled. While I abstain from such measures, if you wish to circumvent an eventual citation before AN, you would be well-advised to temper your invective and either respond with constructive cogency or eschew further discourse entirely. NorthernWinds ❄️ (talk) 21:24, 24 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
NW, there is no law against profanity on Wikipedia, and it can be very appropriate indeed when the occasion calls for it. The provenance is, I maintain, piss-poor. As none of us are responsible for it, we ought not to take offense on its behalf. Thanks for your concern. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 21:55, 24 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Well, indeed there is no such rule. In truth I find your humour amusing, and it would be sad to see you face consequences for these misdemeanors. On a more personal note, I myself am inherently more susceptible to taking offense from such language, and thus felt the need to give my you two cents. Anyhow, you do you.
Best, NorthernWinds ❄️ (talk) 22:56, 24 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
The second half of this diff applies as much to you as to M.Bitton. We can be civil and have this RFC on a charged and controversial topic at the same time. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 15:09, 25 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
M.Bitton is soon to be banned for the kind of behaviour that you are humouring; it was just a heads up that there is no need to waste time and breath on such nonsense. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 15:14, 25 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
I regret humoring it too, but maybe tone down what could be considered WP:GRAVEDANCING considering you already were warned for this in an earlier thread on that page. 🐔 Chicdat Bawk to me! 15:17, 25 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
I think people may be equally displeased with your potential gravedancing here, so right back at ya! Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 15:19, 25 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Aspersions

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So I know the atmosphere at Talk:Zionism has been less than collegial. But just so you know, I neither dish out, nor take, incivility. I don't find this comment to be called for[1]. And if I ever make a rude comment, feel free to call me out on that. To answer your question at hand, multiple users supported the option[2] [3] [4].

I look forward to productive discussions with you.VR (Please ping on reply) 17:10, 21 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

I'm afraid those multiple comments come from a previous RfC that was widely rejected. I would appreciate it if you were more cautious when adding options, so that we do not end up with another failed, rejected RfC.
All the best. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 17:13, 21 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Archiving

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If you're going to archive article talk discussions, I suggest you use a script like User:andrybak/Scripts/Archiver rather than doing it manually. That reduces the chances of any errors. TarnishedPath talk 23:06, 23 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Nice thanks. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 23:12, 23 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Continued incivility

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Please tone down the personalization of your talk page editing. Comments like this one and this one only serve to further increase the temperature in this already contentious topic area. Please try to make your points in a more polite manner. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 22:04, 25 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Have you nothing better to do? Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 22:07, 25 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Maybe you're right, I've toned it down. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 22:59, 25 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Thanks. Try to keep your comments a little more focused on content in the future =) SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 23:31, 25 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Notice of Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard discussion

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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. The thread is Wh1pla5h99 . Thank you. TarnishedPath talk 06:35, 26 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

aside

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Just to avoid bloating the case, I'll bring here that self-deprecating humor like As for keeping my reputation for witty repartee intact, I'm afraid that such a reputation would have to exist first works most places here on WP, even in contentious topcs and at noticeboards. :) Valereee (talk) 18:32, 26 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

I'll have to channel my endless wit there then. Thanks for the tip! Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 20:52, 26 April 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

CT alert

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CT alert

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Three Billboards RfC

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Looks good to me (although I’m a novice closer) and involved. Thanks for the work. If I’d offer one bit of coaching it’d be to avoid the 88 critic score or anything that gives a hint of Wikipedia:Supervote. No need to change this one, just thought I would offer the feedback. Dw31415 (talk) 13:50, 3 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Thanks for the advice, that was something I was not sure about. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 21:56, 9 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Potentially offensive language

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Re this comment: Please don't use potentially pejorative terms like "transgenderism" (see Wiktionary definition of "transgenderism", noun sense 2). There was already an off-topic tangent about word choices in the discussion that I collapsed. I originally pointed this out in the discussion itself but I figured it would be better to discuss here. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 21:45, 3 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Hope it's clear I wasn't using the term pejoratively. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 21:48, 3 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Can you please self-revert?

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Here on the Zionism page you removed status quo content without affirmative consensus, the recent removal of which was already challenged, in violation of the article's restrictions. Can you please self-revert? Smallangryplanet (talk) 16:37, 6 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

That reversion (which was only half of the content that I have removed) was illegitimate on the grounds that it happened a whole month after the initial removal. The rest of the content was then added back many months later. I don't think reversions that happen months after a change is made are above challenge, otherwise people could revert content that has been added many months, even years ago and claim that it should not be restored until positive consensus. Those restrictions must have a time scale, and if people have accepted the removal of content for a month or longer then I don't see how restoring it, without first consulting talk, is acceptable.
A much better way to handle this clearly disputed content, that was tendentiously restored (by an editor who is currently banned from the page), is to discuss it and find a way to include it for which there is consensus. People are clearly attempting to look for a compromise here, and I suggest you join in. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 16:56, 6 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
You made the revert less than 20 minutes before the last revert[5]. Anyway, since it appears you either won't abide by the rule, or interpret the rule differently, I've posted about this at AE.VR (Please ping on reply) 17:02, 6 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
I have no clue what this comment means. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 17:21, 6 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Please try to de-escalate

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Hi. The discussion at Talk:Persecution of transgender people under the second Trump administration#Requested move 1 May 2026 is getting quite heated. Just a friendly reminder that comments like If you tell me take a step back from participating in discussion again I will follow it up with a report. are not helpful to a collaborative editing environment. Please try to de-escalate the situation. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 16:47, 9 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Please do not post to my talk page again. Thank you. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 16:49, 9 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Wh1pla5h99, I get it. Sometimes it can feel like everyone is ignoring the point you're making and like you're just being ganged up on by people trying to score points and end the argument. I feel this way often too, and it's natural to feel this way. There have been times, even recently, where I was the one arguing against 5 others at once on a talk page. But I think it's important to realize that whenever enough people disagree with you, it's easy to get defensive and much harder to take a step back, distance yourself from the situation, and approach it once you are no longer emotionally invested with some new perspective.
Since you're probably angry at me, maybe it would give you some catharsis to see a time recently where I was the one who lost perspective and needed to step back and listen. I used AI for something just like you, which was met with extreme backlash. It happens to everyone, which is totally natural and fine. We just gotta do our best to realize when we're standing on a lost cause and move on, and then later we can reflect on what happened and make a plan for what to do differently next time. It's no big deal and no hard feelings. We're all constantly learning, including myself. Alexandraaaacs1989 (talk) 16:10, 10 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
I am not angry at all. We were simply having a disagreement - perfectly ok! No need to make it into something else. As this is WP:NOTAFORUM, please refrain from the odd personal messages on my talk page, even if well-intentioned. Thanks. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 16:29, 10 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
please refrain from the odd personal messages on my talk page Wow, okay. Message received. Alexandraaaacs1989 (talk) 16:50, 10 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Arbitration enforcement warning

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The following contentious topic warning now applies to you:

Wh1pla5h99 is formally warned to be more careful, especially in CTOPs, and to avoid writing for effect.

You have been warned per this AE thread.

This warning is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel articles#Final decision and, if applicable, the contentious topics procedure. This warning has been recorded in the log of sanctions. If your conduct continues to fall short of the expectations of editors in a contentious topic, you may be subject to a contentious topic restriction such as a block.

You may appeal this warning using the appeal process and the arbitration enforcement appeals template. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this warning, it remains current until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything above is unclear to you. Sennecaster (Chat) 15:13, 11 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

I saw the above discussion as I was posting this warning; at this point, we need you to adjust how you are phrasing your replies to others. Two people left you well-intentioned reminders, and you replied by dismissing them outright and telling them to not post on your talk page again. They are not telling you these things for no reason, they are trying to prevent you from being sanctioned so you can participate in the areas you like writing about. If you don't take their advice, and the advice given to you at the AE thread, you will likely be sanctioned with a topic ban or block. Sennecaster (Chat) 15:38, 11 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Apologies; I was led to believe that it was acceptable to ask others to refrain from posting to your talk. Maybe I shouldn't have branded the second message "odd". Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 15:44, 11 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Wh1, it is acceptable to ask someone not to post to your user talk. Unless their posting to your user talk is or is bordering on harassment, it's a risky move, as the way people generally work out their problems with other editors is to go to the other editor's talk and start a discussion. The way newer users learn the culture/expectations/standards here is from other editors coming in and saying things like "Please try to de-escalate" or "Here's a similar situation I was in recently and what I learned from it" and such.
And, crucially, if editors can't post to your talk, you force them to handle any concerns they have by dragging you to noticeboards. I don't think there's an experienced editor on this project who will disagree with me when I say: You want to avoid noticeboards as much as possible. Bad things happen at noticeboards, whether you're the person being dragged there or the person doing the dragging. Valereee (talk) 18:40, 11 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

May 2026

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Yes I made a typo. Which I found before your little snipe. Please WP:FOC. I have grown deeply tired of your constant personal attacks. You will note I provided a definition that corresponds to Wikipedia's article on the topic without even realizing it wasn't a red-link. Simonm223 (talk) 14:16, 13 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

This was reverted accordingly. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 14:29, 13 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement topic ban

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The following topic ban now applies to you:

You are indefinitely topic banned from the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly construed.

You have been sanctioned for continuing the same behavior you were just warned about and making personal attacks.

This topic ban is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel articles#Final decision and, if applicable, the contentious topics procedure. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. Please read WP:TBAN to understand what a topic ban is. If you do not comply with this topic ban, you may be blocked for an extended period, by way of enforcement of this sanction—and you may also be made subject to further sanctions.

You may appeal this topic ban using the appeal process and the arbitration enforcement appeals template. You may also appeal directly to me (on my talk page), before or instead of appealing to the noticeboard. Even if you appeal this topic ban, you remain bound by it until you are notified by an uninvolved administrator that the appeal has been successful. You are also free to contact me on my talk page if anything above is unclear to you. Sennecaster (Chat) 21:34, 13 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

tban

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Okay, so here’s the thing. You’ve got yourself a reputation for delivering zingers in places zingers are absolutely not helpful. So you delivered this one, literally within days after you were formally warned. WTF? WhyTF didn’t you just say "Oh, there actually is an article, it’s at Epistemicide." No one would even have questioned that. But instead you had to deliver a zinger, in a CTOPs: If you want to look like you know what you're talking about it helps to spell it correctly. Why TF would you say such a thing when you know you’ve already got a reputation for not behaving collegially in CTOPs? Seriously, Wh1. You're obviously smart, a good writer. We'd love to have you work here. But if you literally cannot control yourself, you need to find another hobby. Valereee (talk) 23:04, 13 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Oh well, I never claimed to be perfect. Can't say I haven't learnt a lot about how disparate voices are handled around here. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 11:23, 14 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Disparate ≠ Disruptive. You can disagree without being disagreeable, and that should be the goal anywhere on the site. I'd recommend it anywhere in life. But particularly if you're going to work in CTOPs, you'll have to learn to control your impulse to add heat rather than light in discussions. Valereee (talk) 11:49, 14 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Heat is the natural result of disagreement in a contentious area I'm afraid. The way to remove is to remove the disagreement, which is apparently very easy. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 11:53, 14 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
So the fact it's already at a simmer means what the heck, let's turn up the BTUs and see if we can get to a full boil? Starting to think you're trolling me, here, but I'll take that sincerely and explain:
The fact heat is a natural result is exactly why we don't need additional completely unnecessary heat in those places. If you want to believe it's because you're disagreeing with someone, that's up to you. But there are any number of people working at contentious articles who are regularly disagreeing profoundly with one another, sometimes for YEARS, and aren't ending up at AE. Valereee (talk) 12:06, 14 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Wh1pla5h99 is correct, though, Valereee. A large part of why those other editors are never brought to account for relatively minor snark like this is that they hold positions to which the active arbs are sympathetic. That's why M.Bitton was able to get away with their behaviour for years, and why several other editors I could name continue to get a free pass. Conversely, it seems like some arbs are just itching to bring the hammer down on editors like Wh1pla5h99. Riposte97 (talk) 23:47, 15 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
I think you're right to point out that some people, who arbs identify with, get different (special) treatment; that identication can happen in any number of ways. Some of that is human nature, some of it particular to Wikipedia and its ArbCom. This is a place Wikipedia has a chance to do better. But I have to tell you, my encounter with W1pp left a memorably unpleasant taste in my mouth in an area that had nothing to do with any content. I thought I was interacting with a newer editor seeking to learn more about the WMF after disliking an action the foundation had taken. Instead I had involuntarily become involved with a "debate me bro", demanding answers from me and holding me responsible for the budget of the foundation. When a day or two later I came to his talk page and saw the way he responded to people on this talk page, I realized that my unpleasant experience wasn't an anomaly. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:47, 16 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
I'm sorry you felt that way; I admit I assumed you were associated with WMF in some way given your apparent confidence that they are underfunded. Perhaps if you don't actually know what they are spending money on you should not say things like I think the WMF does need donations... the WMF's objective needs are greater and it's doing a better job of spending the money... I am troubled by the decreased number of donors in last year's fundraising drive both from a financial standpoint and because of what it means for our readership. I do think it is fair to probe into where 200ドル million a year could possibly be going, but I guess we should take it on faith that they need all of that and more, for all of their important projects and whatnot. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 11:04, 16 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Yeah if you had started from "I think the foundation wastes lots of money and Barkeep is wrong for thinking they should get donations. I think we can do better with 200 million." I'd not have cared or remembered it. Instead it seemed like you had genuine questions you wished to see answered and so I thought I'd offer help. Instead I got debate tactics with a side of facetousness for my efforts and that, in my experience, is unusual and based on this talk page not an experience unique to me. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 14:24, 16 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Tbh I think it’s natural for a collaborative project that editors who hold POVs perceived to be anti- a group to which some editors belong get harsher treatment than those supportive of a group. Editors that skew like that are good in the minority to keep people honest and balance against the inevitable advocacy, but it still needs to be a welcoming environment. Balance of POVs in a topic area is something that has a huge affect on article quality and should probably be taken into consideration re sanctions. But Wh1 got sanctioned so quickly because he seeked out the most controversial topics on highly-attended articles and contributed nothing but digs and insults Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 10:03, 16 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Also, it isn’t a coincidence that the POVs that predominate tend to align with those in BESTSOURCES such as scholarship, people complain about Wikipedia's bias, but really it mostly reflects the bias in the knowledge economy. Which is why I don’t really get what people like Larry think they’re doing, our model works, such efforts would be better placed upstream Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 10:17, 16 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Of course our POV dominates (in a purportedly neutral encyclopedia), it is dominant after all! Don't insult people by suggesting Wikipedia should not have a POV. But I suppose this too is an insult, and presumably now I will also be removed from my own talk page. Later. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 10:40, 16 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
  • I'm going to opine that this discussion is still a discussion of the tban, which is still in place. The points being made are completely valid, but it is starting to become tangential to the tban, so Wh1, I actually would recommend that you pivot to discussing only the block until after you've successfully appealed. I'd like to try to help. I'm going to open a section where we can discuss the block and a possible appeal. Valereee (talk) 11:43, 16 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

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If you believe this block is unjustified, please read the guide to appealing blocks (specifically this section) before appealing. Place the following on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Please copy my appeal to the [[WP:AE|arbitration enforcement noticeboard]] or [[WP:AN|administrators' noticeboard]]. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. ~~~~}}. I suggest you use the arbitration enforcement appeals template on your talk page so it can be copied over easily.


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After one year, this sanction becomes appealable through the normal unblock procedures. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 16:09, 15 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Protect the tendentious editors, ban those who object to that behaviour. This place has some way to go it seems. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 16:20, 15 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
@Wh1pla5h99 Several editors on both sides of disputes in which you've engaged have warned you; administrators have warned you and imposed topic bans for this exact behavior. Accusing others of being tendentious is a violation of WP:AGF.
You should recognize your faults, reflect, and take a break and return (if still want) in a year. NorthernWinds ❄️ (talk) 16:39, 15 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
There are obvious voices on this project that will have their way no matter what; if my fault is going after those people a little too harshly rather than allowing them to continue that behaviour, then it is what it is. I'll move on to other, more productive things now. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 16:53, 15 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
@Theleekycauldron I looked at this and ended up confused. This indefinite ban was imposed for incivility American politics topic area after being topic-banned in IPA for a violation that occurred in American politics topic. I don't oppose this administrative decision, but is it possible to make it clearer in the log that the topic-ban was not in this topic (or, if we're already at it, maybe change the topic ban to the topic in which the violation that caused it has occurred)? NorthernWinds ❄️ (talk) 16:32, 15 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
@NorthernWinds: Wh1pla5h99 wasn't blocked for topic-ban violations; they were blocked because when a user continues the same behavior they were topic banned for in areas outside of their topic ban, it becomes clear that the topic ban was insufficient to curtail the behavior. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 16:39, 15 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
@Theleekycauldron wasn't blocked for topic-ban violations This is not entirely clear from the blocking log. Also I don't understand why the topic ban wasn't imposed in American politics in the first place, given that the continued incivility happened there. I'm fine with a topic-ban in IPA (see my comment in the related AE thread) but I think that the justification given in this particular case does not make much sense and that it would make much more sense to impose a topic ban in American politics for the given evidence NorthernWinds ❄️ (talk) 16:48, 15 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
Their behavior also continued in PIA after the warning, so I think a topic ban from there was an appropriate choice. However, it didn't stop the same behavior from occurring in the American politics topic area or outside of CTOPs, so another topic ban would just be playing whack-a-mole. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 16:57, 15 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
As stated previously I don't oppose a topic ban. Is it possible to perhaps remove and re-add it based on evidence in that topic area? It'd avoid confusion. Also making it clearer in the logs that the violations did not occur in topics in which he was topic-banned can also help NorthernWinds ❄️ (talk) 18:59, 15 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
@Wh1pla5h99 I'm really sad to see you blocked. You had great arguments and contributions, and the only fault I found with your editing was what you ended up being blocked for.
To reference your earlier comment: There are obvious voices on this project that will have their way no matter what; if my fault is going after those people a little too harshly rather than allowing them to continue that behaviour, then it is what it is. I think people will respect you and your opinion and viewpoint more if you maintain civility. Wikipedia is not a real-time conversation; you can always look back at your comment and make sure it gets your point across in the most civil way. While it may appear that being harsh helps get your point across, it actually hurts your cause.
I agree that it would be best to take a break until you can appeal your block. And if you do so successfully, like other editors have said, I'd suggest you start editing more on non-CTOPs, and then, once you've had a few months of experience editing without writing for effect, come back to CTOPs very cautiously. VidanaliK (talk to me) (contributions) 16:49, 19 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

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[6] @ NPOVN Editorialising at Executive Order 14168. I was going to reply to them, but I see now that they are now blocked. Should we make a note on their comment at NPOVN, to avoid confusion? Cheers. DN (talk) 23:28, 15 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

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I appreciate your joining User:Larry Sanger/WikiProject Intellectual Diversity (i.e., two days before you were blocked). Larry Sanger (talk) 18:56, 15 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Good luck with things. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 23:31, 15 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

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So, I'm not sure how much investigating you've done on how various types of blocks are appealed. Do you want to discuss? Valereee (talk) 11:44, 16 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

I think I'll take a break for now. If I have the urge to contribute in the future on the articles side of things I may do so. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 12:27, 16 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
I hope you do. I skimmed your contributions history, and those in non-CTOPs article space show only a handful of reverted edits, which is a good sign. I think if you spent some time working in non-CTOPs, you might discover the culture here is not what it feels like in CTOPs/at fraught policy discussions. Spending time in non-CTOPs article space also gives you time to learn; for 7 million articles we have 60 million back-of-house pages, so there's a ton to learn and a steep learning curve. And you might actually have fun and be very productive instead of feeling frustrated most of the time. Valereee (talk) 12:45, 16 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

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@Slava570 There are secondary sources that explicitly state that membership is open to everyone:

Here is their own president saying the members of her organization "mainly consist of people who are academics, so scholarly experts, but our membership is also made up of people who come from different communities within the field of genocide prevention, education, and punishment... we also have members from survivor communities": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ful1OaALk&t=44s Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 13:28, 19 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Also see the last 2 bullet points here, in which they go into more detail about their membership. Wh1pla5h99 (talk) 13:54, 19 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]
I appreciate this information and I will look at it later. You should be allowed to email me, right? In the future, feel free to do that... Slava570 (talk) 14:00, 19 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Simonm223 (talk) 16:08, 19 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

Wh1p if you want to reply to something there I will be happy to copy it over (and I am guessing I wouldn't be the only one). Barkeep49 (talk) 16:22, 19 May 2026 (UTC) [reply ]

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