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Hello, Kowal2701. I would like to inform you that I did not use any chatbots in the article "Siege of Silistra (1809) " I wrote it entirely myself, without using any language models in the article. Please provide proof of my use of chatbots in the article. (Ottomansoldiers) — Preceding undated comment added 19:02, 24 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- @Ottomansoldiers, that's okay, I wasn't 100% sure, I just saw some signs (like how some of the links lead to 404 errors, indicating they might be hallucinated). Happy editing, Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 20:18, 24 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
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I was interested to see you describe Abstract Wikipedia as a brewing scandal in the recent WP:COMMTECHGATE Village Pump thread. I agree, I have quite some trepidation about how it's going to be introduced to us all. And about the scope, especially after watching the video on the Wikifunctions front page.
On an unrelated note, I enjoyed reading your essays, thanks for writing them. GanzKnusper (talk) 10:56, 26 May 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Thank you @GanzKnusper for the kind words. Yeah, I get the impression that’s a very common view. We’ll see, I guess. Communities got no say on whether to start development, and there’s no way for us to stop it so :/ Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 12:51, 26 May 2026 (UTC) Reply
- One approach might be to ask the respective village pumps "would you use this system even if 'perfected'?" and I suspect most language editions would overwhelmingly pick a more gradual article growth that keeps the language skill in the on-wiki community rather than at the ontological software side. The smaller wikis might see the value of having a draft helper, but language quality concerns would probably persist. Anyway, a bunch of skeptical threads in more than just this language edition could do a lot to convey to WMF that it would be an unpopular rollout, I think. Arlo James Barnes 05:36, 18 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2026 May#Persecution of transgender people under the second Trump administration
[edit ]Hi, there is a move review underway relevant to a discussion you were recently involved in. Link above. Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 19:57, 27 May 2026 (UTC) Reply
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On 13 June 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nyamazana , which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that warrior-queen Nyamazana defeated the last Rozvi ruler, an act that has been miscredited to a male relative or her husband? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nyamazana. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Nyamazana), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.
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Hey there, I saw that you've written quite a bit of content relating to West Africa. You may be interested in commenting on wether this good topic nomination should be promoted or not. Aza24 (talk) 04:32, 20 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
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Hi. I am reaching out here to ask you to stop directing stuff at me across venues. You did so at MfD, where WP:FOC is supposed to be followed, and you have just done the same at the AN/I thread. The split had consensus at MfD and I was not the editor who split the page. I don't like confrontation and I don't believe your advice or blame on me alone is in the spirit of WP:AGF. I will acknowledge your request and reply less often, but I am still allowed to partake in the discussion, just as you are. I've heard you, so respectfully, please stop now. Thank you.
(This is a friendly request by the way, there is little point in having ongoing issues with other editors on the project.) 11WB (talk) 15:51, 22 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- By the way, you linked to an active MfD discussion at the AN/I, which has a high volume of editors. Linking to active discussions is generally prohibited on canvassing grounds, even if you didn't request them to !vote a certain way. As you know, a large majority of the editors have supported a sanction of some sort, which means that could introduce bias to the MfD. I recommend editing your message. Thanks. 11WB (talk) 16:27, 22 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- @11WB, I'm sorry to see you're considering retirement. I don't believe we've crossed paths much, but FWIW it's very human to overestimate one's competency on something (I do it all the time), and there's often no better way to learn than jumping in and trying to swim. This case was more about a 'know your place' thing, the admins' noticeboard is primarily for admins to clerk and manage, and for serious conduct and security issues you can usually count on arbcom to basically govern things (there's also often off-wiki discussions where people can get on the same page, eg. WP:DISCORD, WP:IRC, mailing lists etc. (I didn't participate in any of those and generally don't)). I can't offer much personal advice as I don't know you well enough, but good luck in whatever you decide to do. Best, Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 23:24, 23 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Responding out of courtesy. My main enjoyment has always been mainspace. Talk pages and BTS has always come second to that. I'm not going to defend the choices I made during the Sanger mess (there are other editors who were far bolder than me), I acted in good faith and unfortunately, it led to problems. That wasn't my intention. The warning @CaptainEek left on both my talk page and @Knightoftheswords281's talk page was heavy, imposing blocks. I'm not in a place where I can risk that. So I am considering retirement... from BTS areas. I should have listened to your warnings to step away, lesson learnt. 11WB (talk) 08:18, 24 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- @11WB Kowal is right: learning to work BTS can feel very sink or swim, and I know we don't tend to give great guidance. For what it's worth, the Larry situation was atypical, and even admins weren't immune from poor decision making during it. My message to you and Swords was serious because the issue at hand was so serious (the press coverage has already started). Remember, in a big situation like that, dozens of admin eyes are on it. You don't have to rush to do anything, and if something hasn't been done...it's probably on purpose.You've done good work on content, and I hope to see you continue. I know working behind the scenes feels engaging. As Kowal points out, you can feel engaged with other editors in plenty of places, and build connections and understanding, like on Discord. You might even like doing GA reviews; it's a good way to engage with other editors in a generally low drama way. You don't have to stop working behind the scenes just because ANI is giving you trouble, it may just be there are places behind the scenes you fit in better than the classic noticeboards :) CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! ⚓ 08:56, 24 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Finally got around to writing something on this. I agree that there isn't much advice on this, or any when it comes to "ANI clerking". I created WP:ANICLERK as a user essay. It is short and to the point. There aren't too many editors who make this error thankfully, but there are some (like myself) who try to be helpful and end up making things worse. 11WB (talk) 20:31, 30 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- @11WB Kowal is right: learning to work BTS can feel very sink or swim, and I know we don't tend to give great guidance. For what it's worth, the Larry situation was atypical, and even admins weren't immune from poor decision making during it. My message to you and Swords was serious because the issue at hand was so serious (the press coverage has already started). Remember, in a big situation like that, dozens of admin eyes are on it. You don't have to rush to do anything, and if something hasn't been done...it's probably on purpose.You've done good work on content, and I hope to see you continue. I know working behind the scenes feels engaging. As Kowal points out, you can feel engaged with other editors in plenty of places, and build connections and understanding, like on Discord. You might even like doing GA reviews; it's a good way to engage with other editors in a generally low drama way. You don't have to stop working behind the scenes just because ANI is giving you trouble, it may just be there are places behind the scenes you fit in better than the classic noticeboards :) CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! ⚓ 08:56, 24 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Responding out of courtesy. My main enjoyment has always been mainspace. Talk pages and BTS has always come second to that. I'm not going to defend the choices I made during the Sanger mess (there are other editors who were far bolder than me), I acted in good faith and unfortunately, it led to problems. That wasn't my intention. The warning @CaptainEek left on both my talk page and @Knightoftheswords281's talk page was heavy, imposing blocks. I'm not in a place where I can risk that. So I am considering retirement... from BTS areas. I should have listened to your warnings to step away, lesson learnt. 11WB (talk) 08:18, 24 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- @11WB, I'm sorry to see you're considering retirement. I don't believe we've crossed paths much, but FWIW it's very human to overestimate one's competency on something (I do it all the time), and there's often no better way to learn than jumping in and trying to swim. This case was more about a 'know your place' thing, the admins' noticeboard is primarily for admins to clerk and manage, and for serious conduct and security issues you can usually count on arbcom to basically govern things (there's also often off-wiki discussions where people can get on the same page, eg. WP:DISCORD, WP:IRC, mailing lists etc. (I didn't participate in any of those and generally don't)). I can't offer much personal advice as I don't know you well enough, but good luck in whatever you decide to do. Best, Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 23:24, 23 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
I was planning on writing a filter that would log edits that remove Template:AI-generated, since that would be relatively easy to implement. I see in the discussion you linked to that detection of unwarranted deLLMPRODing was also wanted, but I'm not really sure how to implement that. Are there any signs that could be technically checked for to determine if a dePROD was legitimate or not? I think there already is a filter to stop speedy-deletion tag removals, so that one isn't needed. I could also just write it to log all dePRODs but I think that would have a lot of false positives. InfernoHues (talk) 17:50, 23 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Thanks, I think logging all dePRODs would be okay, looking at the Pehlivanmeydani case, there's not many that people took on themselves and rewrote, and there were a fair few LOUTSOCKing removals Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 17:53, 23 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- We've just got to be careful to disengage when running out of patience and not to treat it like a battleground, there's lots of editors who aren't aware of NOLLM Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 17:54, 23 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Yep, of course! I'll give that a go then. InfernoHues (talk) 18:03, 23 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Just replied to the request with the proposed filter. I don't know the official process going forward either, I think it's just that an edit filter helper/manager adds it if they believe it would be useful. InfernoHues (talk) 18:54, 23 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
Hello Kowal, with your expertise in African history, I wanted to let you know of my FAC nom that would benefit from a review by you, and I'd appreciate you taking a look. Ty! Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:28, 26 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- will have a look! Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 23:25, 27 June 2026 (UTC) Reply
- I'll get to the second one in a bit Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 15:59, 1 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
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Hi Kowal2701, I happen to have the articles Jorge Eliécer Gaitán Theatre and National Novel Award (Colombia) on my Watchlist so I saw that you recently tagged them as possibly having been generated by an LLM. I think it is more likely that they are machine translations of the corresponding articles on Spanish Wikipedia, because the structures are really identical! I'm just coming here to ask: in that case, is the tag still correct? Unfortunately I don't think I will have time to take responsibility for cleaning up either article within the next week! Best, GanzKnusper (talk) 22:36, 2 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Hi @GanzKnusper, LLM-translations are okay but only if they follow WP:LLMTRANSLATE, I have little faith the editor reviewed these given their conduct elsewhere. If you need more time you can always move them to draftspace or your own userspace and remove the tag? Can also stubbify them. Sorry, I know it'd be ideal if I stubbified all of these instead of PRODing, but it'd take so much longer and there's a large backlog atm Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 22:41, 2 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Makes sense, if there is a backlog then I agree that a PROD is better than nothing. Thanks for the quick reply! GanzKnusper (talk) 22:51, 2 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
On 3 July 2026, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mo'Kalamity , which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that reggae musician Mo'Kalamity derives her stage name from American frontierswoman Calamity Jane? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mo'Kalamity. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (Mo'Kalamity), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to nominate it.
It caught to my attention that nearly 70 aviation accident and incident article were being PRODed for suspected of being "AI-generated". While it could be the case, all them I found were having the same structure as other language article. It could be the author using AI to translate the article, in regard to ""AI-generated" tags - also for translations?"
My request: I would like to dePRODed them, and instead, stubbifying them. Additionally, I would try me best paraphrasing/re-writing the article.
Would it be OK? Ohok12 (talk) 08:02, 3 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Hi @Ohok12, that'd be great! The editor in question did do some LLM-generated translations, but they don't appear to have reviewed the output when doing so (WP:LLMTRANSLATE is the relevant guideline). The biggest issue with LLM-generated content is WP:V failures/hallucinations, which unfortunately means it takes ages to review (tone issues/WP:AISIGNS is just how we detect it). Stubbifying or rewriting would be ideal, if you want you can userfy or draftify them for the time being if a week is too short? I can also notify WP:AVIATION to see if anyone fancies helping Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 11:31, 3 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Really thank you Ohok12 (talk) 11:54, 3 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
@Kowal2701 I saw that you nominated Frank Epperson to be prodded due to suspect AI-LLM generation. I was the user who accepted that AfC, so I decided to take another look at it. All of the five sources link to the actual, relevant article. However, gptzero had a 56% probability that the article was AI polished. The subject does meet WP:GNG, so I want to see if there is a way to salvage the article (not sure if I'll have the time to do that myself or not). EaglesFan37 (talk) 19:43, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Hi @EaglesFan37, the article appears to have been written by an AI agent so it's very likely LLM-generated (WP:GPTZERO warns against giving detectors too much credence, tbh I just use WP:AISIGNS (several appearing simultaneously increases certainty) and maybe also look for WP:V failures/hallucinated text). Btw don't worry about accepting such an article, tbf I can't see any blatant AI signs, and a significant portion of the articles I LLMPROD went through AfC (not to say that AfC doesn't do a great job at damming the flood, but yeah, it's more for letting notable articles through rather than strict quality control). You could review everything (ie. check the sources and the content match up), but that'd be very time-consuming, most people just stubbify and review that stub (sometimes they'll rewrite from scratch). Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 20:52, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- @Kowal2701 I'm going to try to fix up the article (won't be able to get all of it done now, but at least enough to salvage it for the time being). EaglesFan37 (talk) 21:12, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- @Kowal2701 Would you be able to take a look at the article now? I can tweak it more if needed. EaglesFan37 (talk) 21:28, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- have you reviewed it for WP:V? (btw you can userfy articles if the timeframe is too short) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 21:34, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- It's all verifiable (I looked at the sources). EaglesFan37 (talk) 22:10, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Thanks, that's all good then, feel free to remove the tag Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 22:17, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- My one concern is that edit summaries has it as 79% the other user. I removed 3,000 bytes, rewrote sentences, and cut out sections. EaglesFan37 (talk) 22:26, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Xtools, not edit summaries EaglesFan37 (talk) 22:26, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- There's a look of how it differs: EaglesFan37 (talk) 22:27, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Don't worry, people always check the edit history (tbh I never check 'percentage written', just look for "significant edits"), if someone (esp. an established user) says it's clean no-one will PROD without good reason (usually if I don't fully trust someone's review I just tag w {{AI-generated }} instead of PRODing). Good work Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 22:30, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- There's a look of how it differs: EaglesFan37 (talk) 22:27, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Xtools, not edit summaries EaglesFan37 (talk) 22:26, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- My one concern is that edit summaries has it as 79% the other user. I removed 3,000 bytes, rewrote sentences, and cut out sections. EaglesFan37 (talk) 22:26, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Thanks, that's all good then, feel free to remove the tag Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 22:17, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- It's all verifiable (I looked at the sources). EaglesFan37 (talk) 22:10, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- have you reviewed it for WP:V? (btw you can userfy articles if the timeframe is too short) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 21:34, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- @Kowal2701 Would you be able to take a look at the article now? I can tweak it more if needed. EaglesFan37 (talk) 21:28, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- @Kowal2701 I'm going to try to fix up the article (won't be able to get all of it done now, but at least enough to salvage it for the time being). EaglesFan37 (talk) 21:12, 6 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
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Hello, I just rescued One Night, that you had PRODed. Hope it's OK with you.Are you sure you want to PROD Ingert Bjuggren? She's a clearly notable actress. I see that you have mass-prodded a lot of other pages related to films and filmmaking; don't know why you assume all those pages have been AI-generated but it's impossible to rescue them all in 5 days. I am inviting you to Drafitfy the pages instead so that interested users can check them with time. Thank you. ~2026-38593-76 (talk) 22:57, 7 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Hi @~2026-38593-76, these are WP:LLMPRODs so notability isn’t the concern unfortunately. These articles were written by Artful Historian who was blocked for habitual LLM use, I PRODed articles within the time span that they were determined to have used LLMs. If you want to dePROD you need to follow WP:LLMPRVOBJ and review and rework the article for compliance with WP:PAGs (most importantly WP:V). The reason these are presumptively PRODed is because it would take hours to review all their articles, while it only takes a few minutes to generate them. There may be the odd article that isn't LLM-generated, but we’d need to be reviewing all of them to find that. Editors are allowed to userfy articles to work on later, but draftifying is problematic since different editors sometimes move them back to mainspace without fixing them. I recommend stubbifying, I’ve been doing this with some I've tagged. Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 23:25, 7 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Thank you for your reply and thorough explanation. ~2026-38593-76 (talk) 23:46, 7 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Hello, I've rescued Kingdom (2025 TV series). Not stubbified but checked and reviewed. If I missed something, feel free to remove it! ~2026-38843-54 (talk) 23:01, 9 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- That looks great, thank you :) I’m gonna try and do some stubbifying tomorrow, I was thinking it’d be great to get an organised effort at saving them (like a less toxic WP:ARS), but idk where to suggest it/find people motivated/orientated towards such work Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 23:14, 9 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Also, I WP:BLARed Ingert Bjuggren per WP:ATD-R. ~2026-38843-54 (talk) 23:06, 9 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
Hello, Chile-Iran relations, that you LLMPRODED, has significant contributions by other (and well-established) editors, so it should not be LLM-prodded (per the notice). Leaving it up to you to self-revert your nomination if you agree. Thanks. ~2026-38843-54 (talk) 16:53, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Hi @~2026-38843-54, which edit do you consider significant? AFAICT there's only which is removal of some content (I usually consider "significant contributions" to refer to either a large addition relative to the page size, a partial/total rewrite from the sources (ie. cleanup), or other time-intensive edits, as imo that's more in-keeping with the spirit of the guideline, but happy to discuss) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 17:07, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- I think Geschichte and Libstar's edits show that the page was at least partially reviewed and reworked and consider that a substantial removal of material can be considered significant especially in regard of what LLMPROD is (in particular if one considers that stubbifying is a rough solution to the problem). But I'll remove more and leave it up to you to decide whether or not to remove the tag. ~2026-38843-54 (talk) 17:12, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- we can get a third opinion, @Chaotic Enby wrote the guideline (disclaimer, I've interacted w them a lot, but they won't give favourable treatment). In all honesty I don't have a lot of experience with WP:BANREVERT and the convention for it (which has similar language and I suspect was the inspiration). No deleting admin's raised any issues with me about my LLMPRODs so far. FWIW I usually consider additions of over 500 bytes significant so long as it's partly prose Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 17:23, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- If there hasn't been addition of content, but only curation of AI-generated content, I don't think it exempts the page from LLMPROD, as it doesn't make the rest of the page not AI-generated. The rest are mostly just very superficial copyedits. Chaotic Enby (in solidarity · talk · contribs) 17:26, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- 1) "as it doesn't make the rest of the page not AI-generated." : not sure what this means (if the sources are checked and the language checked, what's the issue?) 2) "If there hasn't been addition of content, but only curation of AI-generated content, I don't think it exempts the page from LLMPROD" Well, I strongly disagree with that. Significant is significant and if you want to change the wording of the template, go ahead but as of now, it does not say "addition" 2) "The rest are mostly just very superficial copyedits.": In the present case, now, not anymore, no. Can we remove the notice? ~2026-38843-54 (talk) 17:34, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- WP:NOLLM (of which WP:LLMPROD is an enforcement mechanism) disallows AI-generated content in general, notably because the rate of creation makes it impractical for human checking otherwise. That someone removed one obvious section doesn't mean they checked any of the other sections.Additionally, WP:LLMPROD itself states that it applies to
pages where the editor is the only significant contributor
. I admit that the wording could be confusing, but in light of the underlying guideline it is enforcing, "contributor" here refers to contributing material. Chaotic Enby (in solidarity · talk · contribs) 17:43, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply - Sorry but I don't think that'd be right. If the page is AI-generated, and someone removes one section of the page, the rest of the page is still AI-generated. AFAICT there's no indication that the article was reviewed against the sources (if there was, then it'd be fine to dePROD). PAGs aren't laws (an essay on this), they mostly just document 'best practice' and one has to consider the spirit of the 'rule'/its purpose. (sorry, published at the same time) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 17:43, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Thank you; I am not sure what your replies are about 1) the general idea (accepting removals as potentially significant (and I am adamant that they can be but we can agree to disagree; still, if you start considering removals as non-contributions then the whole idea of stubbifying those pages is absurd; but again, never mind) or 2) the current state of Chile–Iran relations, which I thoroughly reviewed, trimmed and improved (it certainly could be better but is that the point?); which leads me to ask again: do you think the notice can be removed now? ~2026-38843-54 (talk) 17:51, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- I didn't see you'd reviewed it! Yes, feel free to remove it, apologies Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 17:52, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Cheers! ~2026-38843-54 (talk) 17:53, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- (In light of my recent edits not because it had been edited by others) ~2026-38843-54 (talk) 17:52, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- I didn't see you'd reviewed it! Yes, feel free to remove it, apologies Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 17:52, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Thank you; I am not sure what your replies are about 1) the general idea (accepting removals as potentially significant (and I am adamant that they can be but we can agree to disagree; still, if you start considering removals as non-contributions then the whole idea of stubbifying those pages is absurd; but again, never mind) or 2) the current state of Chile–Iran relations, which I thoroughly reviewed, trimmed and improved (it certainly could be better but is that the point?); which leads me to ask again: do you think the notice can be removed now? ~2026-38843-54 (talk) 17:51, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- WP:NOLLM (of which WP:LLMPROD is an enforcement mechanism) disallows AI-generated content in general, notably because the rate of creation makes it impractical for human checking otherwise. That someone removed one obvious section doesn't mean they checked any of the other sections.Additionally, WP:LLMPROD itself states that it applies to
- 1) "as it doesn't make the rest of the page not AI-generated." : not sure what this means (if the sources are checked and the language checked, what's the issue?) 2) "If there hasn't been addition of content, but only curation of AI-generated content, I don't think it exempts the page from LLMPROD" Well, I strongly disagree with that. Significant is significant and if you want to change the wording of the template, go ahead but as of now, it does not say "addition" 2) "The rest are mostly just very superficial copyedits.": In the present case, now, not anymore, no. Can we remove the notice? ~2026-38843-54 (talk) 17:34, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- If there hasn't been addition of content, but only curation of AI-generated content, I don't think it exempts the page from LLMPROD, as it doesn't make the rest of the page not AI-generated. The rest are mostly just very superficial copyedits. Chaotic Enby (in solidarity · talk · contribs) 17:26, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- we can get a third opinion, @Chaotic Enby wrote the guideline (disclaimer, I've interacted w them a lot, but they won't give favourable treatment). In all honesty I don't have a lot of experience with WP:BANREVERT and the convention for it (which has similar language and I suspect was the inspiration). No deleting admin's raised any issues with me about my LLMPRODs so far. FWIW I usually consider additions of over 500 bytes significant so long as it's partly prose Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 17:23, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- I think Geschichte and Libstar's edits show that the page was at least partially reviewed and reworked and consider that a substantial removal of material can be considered significant especially in regard of what LLMPROD is (in particular if one considers that stubbifying is a rough solution to the problem). But I'll remove more and leave it up to you to decide whether or not to remove the tag. ~2026-38843-54 (talk) 17:12, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
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Asking here because I see you edit around African history. I removed this section from Mami Wata for being unsourced and not really written in an encyclopedic tone: . I was wondering whether you knew of any sources I could use to salvage some of this? InfernoHues (talk) 06:04, 13 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Thanks, I’ll have a look later today Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 06:36, 13 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- I'm not really seeing sources on that topic exactly, tbh I'm not really sure what the best section structure is for articles such as this, but some decent-looking sources are and (I usually use Google Scholar to find sources, though WP:TWL appears to not be accessing Springer atm) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 21:48, 14 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Thanks! InfernoHues (talk) 01:30, 15 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
Hello, @Kowal2701:. I found a recent source about the Griot as teller and the oral tradition of African Diaspora in America, since you occupy yourself with the oral tradition of both sides of the Atlantic:
- Jenkins, Tammie. The Intertextuality of Black American Spoken Word and African Griot Tradition: From the Motherland to America, Lanham: Lexington, 2025. doi :10.5771/9781666933482
KHR FolkMyth (talk) 12:48, 14 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Thanks @KHR FolkMyth, I'll add it to the to-do list! (tbh I usually focus on the continent, I find the diaspora gets decent coverage in comparison) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 21:24, 14 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- It's available via Wikipedia Library in InLibra. Good luck! KHR FolkMyth (talk) 21:46, 14 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
Well that explains all the failed verifications then. Simonm223 (talk) 11:11, 15 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Indeed lol Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 11:13, 15 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- If you need my help anything related to this or about occultism, feel free to ask. I share many of the same interests as Skyerise. Though we never particularly liked each other; given the constant verification issues, probably for the best that the articles they've written from scratch be swept away. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:51, 16 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Thanks @PARAKANYAA, idk whether there's any of Skyrise's creations you wanna save (ie. stubbify or rewrite), it's the ones from #39 Goetia onwards here. You can userfy any you fancy if the timeframe is too short Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 12:21, 16 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Some of those are worth having an article on, but I checked one of Skyerise's articles before and there were so many verification problems I think it may be better to let it get deleted and then start over. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:20, 16 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Thanks @PARAKANYAA, idk whether there's any of Skyrise's creations you wanna save (ie. stubbify or rewrite), it's the ones from #39 Goetia onwards here. You can userfy any you fancy if the timeframe is too short Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 12:21, 16 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Cristóbal de Medrano, which you proposed for deletion. This is clearly not AI-generated, per the edit history and after I carefully read the text. GPTZero score: 96% chance of being human. Thanks! Zingarese talk · contribs (please Reply to icon mention me on reply; thanks!) 13:41, 16 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Hi @Zingarese, it looks like someone's added it back, but just to elaborate, GPTZero isn't very reliable (WP:GPTZERO), and there's several WP:AISIGNS like WP:AILEGACY and WP:SUPERFICIAL (see the AINB thread for more info on the author), FWIW I don't think these were 100% AI-generated, but certainly enough to cause problems. I recommend stubbifying or rewriting the article (you're welcome to userfy it if the timeframe is too short) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 18:59, 16 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
Hello, I came across the discography page for The Wombles, I saw your message at the top, so I did my best to fix it anyway I could, checking the sources, getting rid of anything that looked ai generated, or anything I couldn’t find a valid source for. Hopefully my edits were enough to save it from deletion.
-Braylen Clay, July 16, 2026 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Braylen Clay (talk • contribs) 18:27, 16 July 2026 ~~~~
- That looks great @Braylen Clay, good work! I've added a lead. By the way, you can sign your comments by putting
~~~~at the end of them Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 18:52, 16 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
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Thank you. Zackmann (Talk to me /What I been doing ) 14:45, 20 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
Hello, Kowal2701,
I'm hoping you can tell me more about these PRODs tagged for AI reasons. I was looking at A. Rajarajan which looked from its placement in Category:AI-generated content proposed for deletion by days left like it is ready for deletion. But I see your last edit to the article and from the edit summary here it seems that you are saying "DON'T delete". How do I make sense of these mixed messages? Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 21:51, 22 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Hi @Liz, the WP:LLMPROD process is for LLM-generated articles (which tend to meet notability requirements). From the point of tagging any editor has 5+ days to rewrite/stubbify/review the article and remove the tag before it is potentially deleted (editors can userfy or draftify them if the timeframe is too short), so that part of the edit summary is for editors in the relevant topic area who have it watched and may want to save the article (LLMPRODed articles also show up in WikiProject alerts but obv only if tagged w WikiProjects). Let me know if that's still unclear, or if there's anything I need/ought to be doing differently with the LLMPRODs, thanks Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 12:54, 23 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
Hello Kowal, I'm currently sourcing biographical information for Queen Idia article, I have a handful already, but I don't feel satisfied. So, let's see if your expertise will reveal anything I've missed or couldn't find. BTW, the current sources there are the worst set of sources I've seen in an article in a long time, bahaha. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:41, 25 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Hi @Vanderwaalforces, honestly I'm struggling to find many good ones too. Incredibly, Oxford's Dictionary of African Biography doesn't have an entry for her. She has a short entry in Historical Dictionary of Nigeria (2009), though the most comprehensive source appears to be (in a peer-reviewed journal and by a professor of ancient history at the University of Ibadan). discusses issues with repatriation of looted representations of her, and discusses it in depth. Some more sources are Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 21:14, 25 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- She has an entry in Oxford Encyclopedia of Women in World History volume 2. Thank you for checking, I'd just go through and see. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:28, 25 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- I'm just trying to not bother the article with information that would fit better at Benin ivory mask or so. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:30, 25 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- So, I am done with Idia. If you notice any thing that needs fixing immediately, please let me know, I'd be more than happy. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:10, 27 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- I've done a bit of copyediting, it's a brilliant article, not was I was expecting given your message above lol Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 22:08, 27 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Thank you, man! Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:19, 27 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- I've done a bit of copyediting, it's a brilliant article, not was I was expecting given your message above lol Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 22:08, 27 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- So, I am done with Idia. If you notice any thing that needs fixing immediately, please let me know, I'd be more than happy. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 19:10, 27 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
Hey there, so I don't know the usual procedure, but I reworked the page and can vouch for everything that's there now. Do you think I can delete the LLM notice or do I need to have someone review it? Slava570 (talk) 21:29, 25 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- That looks great, you can remove the notice, no permission needed (just make sure to give a clear edit sum) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 21:38, 25 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
At User:M kuhner/sandbox/case3.
I do not understand the difference between AN and ANI very well and would appreciate advice on choice of noticeboard, and on the documentation. It needs to be solid. I have a query at AINB about the history of the affected articles--if you know how many were published in mainspace that would be very helpful.
It's probably better for me to do this rather than someone who knows him personally. M kuhner (talk) 22:31, 28 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Hi, of the 10 in the OP, 8 were in mainspace and 2 were drafts (plus the 3 Gurku later identified that were also in mainspace). Btw the AINB section header is just
Fuzheado
, and articles created between Nov 2025 and March 2026 were violations of WP:NEWLLM (i.e. ), the WP:NOLLM shortcut was only created when the current version was passed in March (FWIW I don't know him personally but pretty sure others do). Otherwise it looks good, better than what I would've done. WP:ADMINCOND and WP:ADMINACCT discussions are usually held at WP:AN, but I'd recommend waiting for like a week to see if they respond to the most recent nudge. If not then go for it Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 23:23, 28 July 2026 (UTC) Reply- Thanks for the info and corrections!
- The bad link you pointed out surprisingly got me to a previous ANI case, which links to another; reading those makes me disinclined to wait as they both feature prolonged no-response broken only when action seemed imminent. One has the feeling that this strategy has worked more often than not. I am in a honey-badger frame of mind and I'm just going to go ahead. M kuhner (talk) 03:08, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- (just FYI, I'm annoyed about it too, but honey-badgers have to be careful not to stray into WP:BATTLE) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 17:12, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Warning appreciated. I plan to mostly stay off that thread; I think I've said my piece. M kuhner (talk) 17:54, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- (just FYI, I'm annoyed about it too, but honey-badgers have to be careful not to stray into WP:BATTLE) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 17:12, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
Hello. I'm checking some of the pages made by a certain user which were tagged as AI and I noticed that Yosotarashi-hime is scheduled for deletion. I will add more if I notice any similar articles but I overhauled that article a while ago so practically all of it's text is by me. So no AI is involved in this instance!
Camillz (talk) 22:34, 28 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- By "I will add more if I notice any similar articles" I mean if I notice any other articles I may have overhauled or worked profusely on. I just don't want confusion.
- Camillz (talk) 22:38, 28 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- You're right, sorry, I think I scanned over it because it was a small byte change and sort-of-vague edit sum, but that's definitely a mistake on my part. Feel free to revert the tag (just make sure to put a clear edit sum). There shouldn't be others like that, but feel free to do the same if there are (and please let me know so I know to be more careful) Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 23:04, 28 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
- Thank you for your understanding! This page seems to be the only example of this. I will double check but I think the case is closed!
- Camillz (talk) 09:03, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply
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