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Find correct name The airport is not listed as João Paulo II anywhere. The airport's own website calls itself simply Ponta Delgada, and has no mention of João Paulo.

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          I find the statement that the war in Africa was consuming 40% of the national budget dubious. That is the sort of figure associated with a national war of survival. It needs a credible source or to be removed. CalJW 20:08, 11 September 2005 (UTC) [reply ]

          I have seen it cited many times here in Wikipedia and, having studied the Portuguese economy during the 60's and 70's to a rather extensive degree, I can confirm that it is definetely not true. --MiguelFC 19:25, 9 July 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

          Strange expression

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          In the marriage and descendants section, all the descendants are listed after the phrase "and had issue". This sounds weird. Granted I'm not a native english speaker. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.231.254.60 (talk) 20:41, 1 January 2011 (UTC) [reply ]

          Yeah, it is quite archaic, and even then normally reserved for genealogies of royal houses. Should probably be reworded to sound less of a genealogical chart, too. --Ilja.nieuwland (talk) 21:02, 30 April 2018 (UTC) [reply ]
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          Article title change to Marcello Caetano

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          It should be edited to Caetano's actual given name, also mentioned in the article's lead section and infobox 188.27.164.227 (talk) 10:13, 26 June 2017 (UTC) [reply ]


          ==Marcelo or Marcello Which is correct?

          Caetano and the Estado Novo were not Fascist

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          The reliable sources agree that Salazar, Caetano and the Estado Novo were not Fascist. Here are quotes from five reliable sources: 1) Carlos A. Cunha, ‎(2010) states "A comparison of Salazar's dictatorship with German or Italian fascism shows that Portugal was not a fascist state." 2) Bernard Cook, (2001) states "he was not a fascist but rather an authoritarian conservative. " 3) Portuguese Studies Review - Volume 2 - Page 109 (1993) "an authoritarian or clerico-corporatist state not a fascist one." 4) António Costa Pinto - 1991 states "He was not a fascist, but a reactionary" 5) Fascism in Europe, 1919-1945 (Routledge Companions) by Philip Morgan (2002) states: "Lacking the impulse and will for wars of expansion, and the need, then, to organize their populations for war, where reasons why the authoritarian regimes of Salazar and Franco never became totalitarian. p 177.

          Opposed to democracy, communism, socialism, anarchism and liberalism, Salazar's rule was conservative and nationalist in nature. Salazar distanced himself from fascist dictatorships, which he considered a pagan Caesarist political system that recognised neither legal nor moral limits. Salazar viewed German Nazism as espousing pagan elements that he considered repugnant.(see Hugh Kay, Salazar and Modern Portugal, pay 68)--J Pratas (talk) 08:12, 6 April 2019 (UTC) [reply ]

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          Since no consensus has been reached, it would be good to readd the categories "Portuguese fascists" and "Fascist rulers". 177.206.169.213 (talk) 02:07, 4 June 2019 (UTC) [reply ]

           Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Since the article was protected in April, there has been no discussion on the talk page. There has also been no attempts to add the request categories (there were several prior to the protection). Please gain consensus by starting a talk page discussion. Nici Vampire Heart 12:48, 4 June 2019 (UTC) [reply ]

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