Talk:Joshua Bloch

This is actually a pretty well-written biography, but it's not that great a Wikipedia article, for two reasons; 1) it cites few sources, and is for the most part not written from published sources, stating "Much of the personal background in this article is derived from discussions with the subject and his family and friends". On Wikipedia, original research is verboten; articles must be derived from reliable published sources. 2) The tone of the text is just plain wrong for a encyclopedia article.

I suggest we just prune the thing right down to the bare, sourced facts (stub length, most likely), and build it up again from there. — Matt Crypto

I like that guy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.223.45.103 (talk) 00:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Joshua Bloch is not a notable person and Wikipedia is not a CV warehouse. This article should be promptly deleted. Graham Wellington 01:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

Well, it depends what you mean by notable...Bloch is fairly well known in the Java world, as these things go. — Matt Crypto 06:11, 9 November 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

He is not a notable person by Wikipedia standards. Self-promotion articles of this kind are routinely deleted. Graham Wellington 00:56, 10 November 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

As orignal author I suggest to revert to my version, add pieces of information bit by bit, and strictly warn adders of unsoursed, biased and non-encyclopedical information --Ilya K 09:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

I've reverted it to that version. Personally, I think he's notable enough by Wikipedia standards. — Matt Crypto 09:58, 10 November 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

I do not know if Joshua Bloch is notable or not. But the tone of this article really does not fit into the spirit of Wikipedia. I cannot say why, but I just feel it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.62.10.11 (talk) 21:49, 9 November 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

I think that he's notable enough, but that the article doesn't express why. I think that if other notable tech people, like Bjarne_Stroustrup or Tim_Berners-Lee are notable enough to have wikipedia articles, then Bloch certainly is. I do also agree that this article needs cleanup, and more information about his notable works, such as *why* he's notable, what works he did @Sun and Google would go a long way towards this goal. Kylar (talk) 20:59, 19 March 2008 (UTC) [reply ]

Listing all the topics in "Effective Java" is probably overkill, but the book does warrant some discussion since it is a well-known title in Java. I added an explicit reference to the publication date, but I don't have time to do a fully reference analysis on it's impact - this might be a good start: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/articles/javase/index-136000.html. Unfortunately a lot of this is tribal knowledge within individual companies, so it might be hard to get to something beyond "original research" or exposition. 167.24.104.150 (talk) 19:15, 8 July 2014 (UTC) [reply ]

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