Talk:God

Image of the Christian God as of the current version (July 29, 2024) is the actual depiction of the Christian God. Don't change it with the painting of The Creation of Adam, also known as The Creation of Man, by Italian artist Michelangelo as it only consist the image of God the father. But the actual God in Christianity is represented through the the Christian Trinity, as a three faced head (Father, Son and Holy spirit). AimanAbir18plus (talk) 10:32, 29 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Yes, God in Christianity is a Trinity, but the depiction of the Most Holy Trinity (a 3-faced Jesus) currently is considered heretical even by the very church it came from. It is a very fringe depiction of the Most Holy Trinity, supported by practically no one.

I suggest it should be replaced with the Trinity icon by St. Andrei Rublev ASAP. Bis-Serjetà? (talk) 06:38, 17 August 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

I've noticed the same thing, God in this article is mostly shown on pictures as the Muslim God, i'm not speaking against the religion but the fact that the images are stereotypical and could be revolved about the author's beliefs. BenidictusW (talk) 22:05, 4 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

BenidictusW, I think you are too concerned about the preview of the article which depicts Allah (God in Islam) which you said is stereotypical and revolve about the author's beliefs. But, wouldn't the use of the image of the old bearded man (Christian God the Father) or Trinity of Christianity as the preview be also stereotypical and revolve about the author's beliefs? Moreover, you said, "God in this article is mostly shown on pictures as the Muslim God" which is not true because from Left to right, top to bottom: representations of God in Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Baháʼí Faith, Zoroastrianism, and Vaishnava Hinduism is shown in the lead section. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 09:02, 5 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@Bis-Serjetà?: I agree that choosing the tricephalous depiction of the Trinity is... rather odd. From my preliminary research, it appears to be theologically controversial, and was even condemned by popes Urban VIII and Benedict XIV.

@AimanAbir18plus: Can you justify your choice of this controversial depiction? How can it be "the actual depiction of the Christian God", as you claim, when it has been so condemned? 50.221.225.231 (talk) 07:34, 22 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

I'm getting really tired of the endless fiddling with the gallery here in general. We need to select three or four representative depictions that cover the gamut and stick with them. Remsense .. 论 07:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

I did not choose the image. It was chosen by someone else. But this image is more accurate to represent the Trinity than an old bearded man as God. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 17:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Wikipedia is WP:NOTFINISHED. It's fine to do iterative refinement.

As a practical matter, I suggest going with uncontroversial depictions (like my example below) to avoid unnecessary disputes. 50.221.225.231 (talk)

The Shield of the Trinity (e.g., this image) seems like an uncontroversial choice for depiction of the Trinity. 50.221.225.231 (talk) 07:59, 22 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

I'm a big fan of iteration, but iteration has to have direction or purpose. I wonder if we can do better still—while what it represents is certainly not controversial in Eastern Orthodoxy, the diagram is still particularly Western—I remember reading a bit about Byzantine diagrams a while back, it was really interesting. Remsense .. 论 08:25, 22 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

@AimanAbir18plus, I asked you to please discuss further changes to the main gallery before making them. Remsense .. 论 19:24, 22 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

@AimanAbir18plus, why did you try to archive this thread instead of addressing me directly asking you about something? Remsense .. 论 20:17, 25 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

This topic is no longer relevant as the 3 faced trinity depiction of Jesus is no longer used in the article as lede image. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 20:28, 25 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

But I asked you to please discuss any changes to the lead images before making them, which you have ignored and made changes anyway. There was no reason for you to archive what is clearly generalized, ongoing discussion about the lead gallery. Remsense .. 论 20:29, 25 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

I don't want to edit war: @AimanAbir18plus could you please explain the reasoning for re-adding the Jewish and Baháʼí representations? I do not think previous appearance suffices, and I would like to have a gallery where there are as few examples with as broad a coverage as possible. Remsense .. 论 09:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Because Judaism and Bahai Faith is larger religion than Atenism (extinct religion) and Monad (philosophy). And the depictions of God in Judaism and Bahai Faith were used in the older versions of the article and are more important than Atenism or Monad. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 09:41, 26 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Right, but the point is to represent the totality of the concept described in the article. Atenism was of great historical importance for its concept of God, which remains of great interest to scholars of religion. The Monad represents a distinct conception of God unique to the early modern period. I'm not saying we have to include either of these, but just reaching for different representations because you feel they have sufficient number of associated adherents is not really doing the concept justice, in my mind. Remsense .. 论 09:44, 26 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Okay. You can replace the Jewish and Bahai depiction of God with Atenism and Monad. I have no problem. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 09:48, 26 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

But I don't think that the topic of "Don't change the image of the Christian God (Trinity)" is relevant anymore as the 3 faced trinity depiction of Jesus is no longer used in the article as lede image. So, do you think that it would be okay to remove this topic? AimanAbir18plus (talk) 09:52, 26 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

There's no reason to remove the topic, as it will be archived eventually like any other. It does not bother me that conversation flows naturally and other questions are addressed in the interim. Remsense .. 论 09:57, 26 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Alright. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 10:01, 26 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

@Remsense: @AimanAbir18plus: @Bis-Serjetà?: Eastern Orthodoxy (one of the three major Christian denominations) rejects human depictions of God the Father. Let's replace the image with the obvious candidate, Christ, or the Shield of the Trinity, as suggested above. 50.221.225.231 (talk) 16:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

In the introduction, I strongly recommend replacing the photo of a statue of Vishnu with the symbol of Brahman, since Vishnu is just one of the three manifestations of Brahman, together with Brahma and Shiva. 50.221.225.231 (talk) 07:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Currently, the article uses an icon of Acintya, a deity of Balinese Hinduism. (Bali is a small island of Indonesia.) Is there a reason we're using this, specifically, to represent all of Hinduism? 50.221.225.231 (talk) 01:32, 23 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

It's not representing all of Hinduism. It's representing a specific Balinese Hindu deity Acintya. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 14:12, 27 September 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Why use Balinese Hinduism (~4.6 million adherents) rather than simply Hinduism (~1.2 billion adherents)? 50.221.225.231 (talk) 23:20, 2 October 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Images of Hindu deities such as Hanuman and Vishnu were used in the previous versions of the article. But, many people including you too were not happy about it. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 10:05, 4 October 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

I vote we restore the the image of Vishnu, and just write "Vaishnava Hinduism" in the description. This is the largest sect of the faith. Otherwise, could we use an image of the Trimurti as a sort of compromise? Zoozoor (talk) 06:10, 5 October 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Vishnu's image has been restored. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 13:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

See title. See this page for context. Gnomingstuff (talk) 05:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

To clarify this is not an attempt to forum shop, any edit that I will or will not make to the archive will be made after the thing is resolved Gnomingstuff (talk) 05:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC) [reply ]

Hi: Prior to today when you google "God Wikipedia" on mobile the image was of the Christian western artistic rendition. Today it only shows the Islamic writing in Hagia Sophia. Could we revert it or have something that is more unifying be the default photo like a white light or galaxy? SAGOUB ELTOTSIRA (talk) 22:27, 6 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

• User:SAGOUB ELTOTSIRA, I can't tell what you see or what you saw, but nothing in the article has changed in the last week or so. Some people have been messing around with the sixth image, apparently, but you're talking about the first two images in that composite picture. Drmies (talk) 22:30, 6 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

SAGOUB ELTOTSIRA, You can't choose the first image you see when you search for "God Wikipedia" on any given search engine. It is chosen at random. SpooklesMan (talk) 21:57, 14 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]