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Created on 2020年03月04日 18:12 by Dave Liptack, last changed 2022年04月11日 14:59 by admin. This issue is now closed.
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| selection_clear.py | terry.reedy, 2020年03月06日 06:36 | |||
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| PR 18801 | merged | terry.reedy, 2020年03月06日 06:59 | |
| PR 18857 | merged | miss-islington, 2020年03月08日 18:32 | |
| PR 18858 | merged | miss-islington, 2020年03月08日 18:33 | |
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| msg363370 - (view) | Author: Dave Liptack (Dave Liptack) | Date: 2020年03月04日 18:12 | |
Python 3.8.1 IDLE 3.8.1 When COPYing text in IDLE, right-click and PASTE behaves like CUT/PASTE This also occurs with COPY -> Go to Line -> PASTE This does not occur with COPY -> left-click -> PASTE |
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| msg363392 - (view) | Author: Terry J. Reedy (terry.reedy) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年03月04日 21:39 | |
The standard and expected behavior is that pasting *without* a selection inserts, pasting *with* a selection replaces. Pasting with key, Edit menu, or context menu should be the same. This is what I see and what I *think* you are describing. If so, please close. If not, please specify OS and version, how you installed Python, and more concretely what you did and whether line numbers or code context were present. |
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| msg363439 - (view) | Author: Dave Liptack (Dave Liptack) | Date: 2020年03月05日 16:05 | |
OS: Windows 10 Pro Version: 1909 OS Build: 18363.657 Python 2.7.17 and 3.8.1 were installed from https://www.python.org/downloads/ using the Windows x86-64 executable installer (3.8.1) and Windows x86-64 MSI installer (2.7.17) Both line numbers and code context are not present To reproduce: 1) Position cursor at the start of a line of text 2) Type Shift+down arrow (to select line of text) 3) Type Ctrl+c 4) Type Alt+g (IDLE) or Ctrl+g (Notepad, Notepad++) 5) Enter line number (for example below line number = 2) 6) Type Enter 7) Type Ctrl+v Example initial text: # This is line 1 # additional line # This is a line I wish to duplicate # another additional line Resulting text in IDLE: # This is line 1 # This is a line I wish to duplicate # additional line # another additional line Resulting text in Notepad and Notepad++: # This is line 1 # This is a line I wish to duplicate # additional line # This is a line I wish to duplicate # another additional line My workaround in IDLE is to add a step between #6 and #7 above, where I mouse click at the desired paste location |
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| msg363457 - (view) | Author: Terry J. Reedy (terry.reedy) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年03月05日 22:18 | |
This is much clearer. To expand on what I said before, inserting *anything*, such as by hitting a key, replaces a selection. I verified that this is normal behavior, at least on Windows, with Notepad, Notepad++, and this Firefox entry box I am typing in. So either of your steps 6 or 7 delete the still selected line, after the goto. (And so a click is needed before 6 to stop the deletion.) I see the continued selection as the problem. Both Notepad and Notepad++ unselect any selection upon goto, the same as if one moved the cursor by clicking instead of goto. I will try adding text.selection_clear() to the goto code. |
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| msg363487 - (view) | Author: Terry J. Reedy (terry.reedy) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年03月06日 06:36 | |
selection_clear only partially clears a selection. That it does something is proven by selection_clear.py. It disables selection_get. But run the file in IDLE and when it finishes, click the tk window, select a line, click Shell, and manually repeat the last 3 lines. selection_get is disabled again, but upon clicking the title bar of the tk window (to not affect selection in the window), the selection is still highlighted. Further experiments showed that the insertion-deletion bug of this issue remains when using selection_own and selection_clear in IDLE. The alternative of simulating a click on the moved insert cursor is harder by works, at least on Windows. This also triggers a status-bar update -- see #27115. |
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| msg363490 - (view) | Author: Terry J. Reedy (terry.reedy) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年03月06日 07:10 | |
I am expanding this issue to include the part of #27115 that the PR will fix. (I will also change the scope of the latter). |
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| msg363514 - (view) | Author: Dave Liptack (Dave Liptack) | Date: 2020年03月06日 14:33 | |
Like goto, right-click also exhibits this behavior. Should selection_clear also be added to right-click code? |
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| msg363579 - (view) | Author: Terry J. Reedy (terry.reedy) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年03月07日 05:15 | |
Agreed about right clicks. See new issue #39885. |
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| msg363670 - (view) | Author: Terry J. Reedy (terry.reedy) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年03月08日 18:32 | |
New changeset 2522db11df102be3baf25ce9e816ebe8ffdb7fcc by Terry Jan Reedy in branch 'master': bpo-39852: IDLE 'Go to line' deletes selection, updates status (GH-18801) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/2522db11df102be3baf25ce9e816ebe8ffdb7fcc |
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| msg363671 - (view) | Author: miss-islington (miss-islington) | Date: 2020年03月08日 18:49 | |
New changeset a5e821c7269ebed6e8b4b4eee3f2247ec41a9788 by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.8': bpo-39852: IDLE 'Go to line' deletes selection, updates status (GH-18801) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/a5e821c7269ebed6e8b4b4eee3f2247ec41a9788 |
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| msg363672 - (view) | Author: miss-islington (miss-islington) | Date: 2020年03月08日 18:50 | |
New changeset ec61f53243a4455f41e37a5c645e668661952c28 by Miss Islington (bot) in branch '3.7': bpo-39852: IDLE 'Go to line' deletes selection, updates status (GH-18801) https://github.com/python/cpython/commit/ec61f53243a4455f41e37a5c645e668661952c28 |
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| msg363691 - (view) | Author: Guido van Rossum (gvanrossum) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年03月09日 04:38 | |
I have a nit on the commit message used here (and also in issue 39885). *Please* don't use this style of commit message "IDLE context menu clears selection". That phrasing sounds like it is the description of a bug. Please always use a phrasing that makes it clear what the commit/PR changes. In this case, for example, it could be "IDLE: make context menu clear selection". I know there are projects that prefer this style. Python is not one of them. Please comply. |
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| msg363695 - (view) | Author: Terry J. Reedy (terry.reedy) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年03月09日 06:16 | |
Is it the temporal ambiguity (fixed by adding 'now', which is in the blurbs) or the descriptive versus command style (as with 'Returns' versus 'Return') that you do not like? If the latter, the devguide could use augmentation. The only relevant 'guidance' I found is this descriptive example in https://devguide.python.org/pullrequest/#making-good-commits: "the spam module is now more spammy". This seems similar to "IDLE context menu now clears selection". I don't see anything about commit messages in https://devguide.python.org/committing/, which seems like another likely place for such. |
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| msg363740 - (view) | Author: Guido van Rossum (gvanrossum) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年03月09日 14:55 | |
I guess it's similar to the 'return' vs. 'returns' issue, but I feel much stronger about it here. I would have written that as "make the spam module more spammy". Just read a bunch of commits using e.g. `git log --oneline` to see what the prevailing style is. |
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| msg363770 - (view) | Author: Terry J. Reedy (terry.reedy) * (Python committer) | Date: 2020年03月09日 20:46 | |
https://github.com/python/devguide/issues/577 |
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| Date | User | Action | Args |
| 2022年04月11日 14:59:27 | admin | set | github: 84033 |
| 2020年03月09日 20:46:53 | terry.reedy | set | messages: + msg363770 |
| 2020年03月09日 14:55:44 | gvanrossum | set | messages: + msg363740 |
| 2020年03月09日 06:16:09 | terry.reedy | set | messages: + msg363695 |
| 2020年03月09日 04:38:39 | gvanrossum | set | nosy:
+ gvanrossum messages: + msg363691 |
| 2020年03月08日 18:51:40 | terry.reedy | set | status: open -> closed resolution: fixed stage: patch review -> resolved |
| 2020年03月08日 18:50:41 | miss-islington | set | messages: + msg363672 |
| 2020年03月08日 18:49:47 | miss-islington | set | messages: + msg363671 |
| 2020年03月08日 18:33:01 | miss-islington | set | pull_requests: + pull_request18215 |
| 2020年03月08日 18:32:54 | miss-islington | set | nosy:
+ miss-islington pull_requests: + pull_request18214 stage: needs patch -> patch review |
| 2020年03月08日 18:32:47 | terry.reedy | set | messages: + msg363670 |
| 2020年03月07日 05:15:44 | terry.reedy | set | messages: + msg363579 |
| 2020年03月06日 14:33:17 | Dave Liptack | set | messages: + msg363514 |
| 2020年03月06日 07:10:22 | terry.reedy | set | title: IDLE: Goto should remove any selection -> IDLE: Goto should remove selection and update the status bar messages: + msg363490 stage: patch review -> needs patch |
| 2020年03月06日 06:59:47 | terry.reedy | set | keywords:
+ patch stage: needs patch -> patch review pull_requests: + pull_request18157 |
| 2020年03月06日 06:36:51 | terry.reedy | set | files:
+ selection_clear.py messages: + msg363487 |
| 2020年03月05日 22:18:12 | terry.reedy | set | title: IDLE: Copy/Paste behaves like Cut/Paste -> IDLE: Goto should remove any selection stage: needs patch messages: + msg363457 versions: + Python 3.7, Python 3.9 |
| 2020年03月05日 16:05:13 | Dave Liptack | set | messages: + msg363439 |
| 2020年03月04日 21:39:27 | terry.reedy | set | messages: + msg363392 |
| 2020年03月04日 18:12:17 | Dave Liptack | create | |