Re: Pas si pas clair

Pas supprimer les émotions, mais essayer de préserver des normes de débat constructives. C’est un problème difficile même quand toutes les parties prenantes font de leur mieux, un combat constant contre le résultat par défaut qui est "tout le monde se hurle dessus contre-productivement". Faire un effort de crier moins fort que l’interlocuteur est un de ces outils (et oui, je ne suis pas toujours à la hauteur de mes propres ambitions).

Encore une fois, quand on me dit "j’ai pas lu mais c’est ridicule", je m’énerve. Et je ne critique pas en moi-même cet énervement ! C’est naturel et sain ! Mon auto-critique porte sur l’action de "répondre en essayant de crier plus fort", qui est pour le coup naturel mais malsain. Les deux choses sont différentes.

Et sur le fond... tu tapes à côté. Yudkowsky :

A popular belief about "rationality" is that rationality opposes all emotion—that all our sadness and all our joy are automatically anti-logical by virtue of being feelings. Yet strangely enough, I can’t find any theorem of probability theory which proves that I should appear ice-cold and expressionless.

J’ai également déjà mentionné aussi Thing of Things :

Many people who struggle with excessive guilt subconsciously have goals that look like this:
* [...]
* I don’t want to have upsetting emotions.
* I want to stop having feelings.

These are what I call the life goals of dead people, because what they all have in common is that the best possible person to achieve them is a corpse.
[...]
If you want to be dead, that’s your own business. But if you would like to continue to be alive, it’s a bad idea to set goals for yourself that boil down to "try to get as close as possible to being a corpse while continuing to respire and consume nutrients."

On peut aussi aller voir chez Scott Alexander :

If I were an actor in an improv show, and my prompt was "annoying person who’s never read anything about rationality, criticizing rationalists", it would go something like:

[...] Anyway, rationality isn’t everything – instead of pretending to be Spock, people should remain open to things like emotions, art, and relationships. [...]

They [Modern rationalists] have said approximately one zillion times that they don’t like Spock and think he’s a bad role model. They include painters, poets, dancers, photographers, and novelists.