[Dx-qsl] Y2-Y9 callsigns

2002年1月06日 21:27:15 -0200

Dear OM Tom, WW5L
Thank you for the reply. Appreciated your help. Unfortunately my text 
wasn't clear enough, so you did not understand what I meant. Sorry, it's my 
fault, due to my poor English. Please, take a look in the text below (it is 
part of one of my previous messages), where I try to clarify my question. I 
am aware of the rules for deleted coutries credits. My question wasn't 
about credit for me, but for those friends in German Democratic Republic 
(East Germany) who changed calls and DXCC entity. Please, read below.
Again, thanks a lot for your comments.
73, Roger - PY1OL
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OK about the Y2-Y9 cards that we have. No problems. Deleted country credits 
and so on. Also OK about the DL bureau cross references for locating the 
corresponding new calls.
Now, please let me make a better explanation of my second question: the 
problem is the cards that we SEND them. Let's suppose that *today*, a DX 
station (say DX1DX) fills out a card to... let's say Y22XXX. Suppose that 
the card is correctly delivered. Is this DX1DX QSL card of any current use 
for the guy who used to be Y22XXX?
The DX1DX card is confirming a QSO with Y22XXX. Now, Y22XXX is, for 
instance, DL2XXX. Question is: can DL2XXX, nowadays, use that DX1DX card 
and claim for DXCC credit for his new callsign?
73, Roger - PY1OL - Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
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At 15:51 6/1/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>ROGER:
>>The ARRL will give you credit for East Germany (now a deleted country) which
>will count in your overall country total if the QSOs were made before East
>Germany and West Germany were united into one country. The ARRL keeps 2
>country totals overall and current. That's why on the DXCC list you see most
>listings with two numbers. I think mine is 334 overall and 328 
>current. Other
>really old timers have something like 360 or so and 335 current if they've
>worked everything. Your "current" total is what the ARRL uses to 
>determine the
>DXCC honor roll.
>>If you have additional questions you might e-mail Bill Moore NC1L at the ARRL,
>he manages the DXCC program and can answer just about anything DXCC related.
>>(DA-DL) Only contacts made with DA-DL stations September 17,1973,
> and after, and contacts made Y2-Y9 stations October 3, 1990 and
> after, count for this entity (Germany) (new DXCC list)
>>This is from the "deleted" countries list
>>DA-DM(18) Germany (West Germany)
>DM, Y2-9(19) German Dem.Rep. (East Germany)
>>18 (DA-DM) Only contacts made September 16, 1973, and before,
> count for this entity. Contacts made September 17, 1973,
> and after, count as either FRG (DA-DL) or GDR (Y2-Y9).
>19 (DM,Y2-9) Only contacts made from September 17, 1973, to
> October 2, 1990 count for this entity. On October 3, 1990
> the GDR became part of the FRG.
>>Tom, WW5L
>>>>Roger wrote:
>> > Dear Friends, Happy New Year!
> > Some questions about old QSOs, made when East Germany had prefixes like Y2,
> > Y3, Y4, Y5, etc.
> >
> > 1 - What happens if somebody NOW sends QSL cards to these stations through
> > the DL bureau? Is the DL bureau able to identify the owner of that old
> > Y2-Y9 callsign and deliver the card (of course I am not asking about
> > non-members)?
> >
> > 2 - If the cards reach the correct destination, will these cards be good
> > for credit for DXCC and/or WPX, etc? The reason for this question is: if
> > somebody moves from the DXCC country where he lives, his DXCC totals and
> > all of his QSL cards will not be good for the new DXCC country he went to.
> > I know that this isn't what happened with East Germany (of course they did
> > not "move", hi) but East Germany now is deleted and those stations now are
> > in another DXCC entity (DL).
> >
> > - How did ARRL managed this situation for the Y2-Y9 stations?
> > - Did they keep all their previous credits (i.e., were these old credits
> > transfered to their new DL callsign)?
> > - Can they, nowadays, ask for credit using cards that confirm QSOs with
> > their old Y2-Y9 callsigns?
> >
> > 73,
> > Roger - PY1OL