[Dx-qsl] Y2-Y9 callsigns

2002年1月06日 19:37:37 -0600

Roger:
Best thing might be to e-mail [email protected]
Bill Moore can give you the straight information and he manages the DXCC program.
Tom
Roger wrote:
> Dear OM Tom, WW5L
>> Thank you for the reply. Appreciated your help. Unfortunately my text
> wasn't clear enough, so you did not understand what I meant. Sorry, it's my
> fault, due to my poor English. Please, take a look in the text below (it is
> part of one of my previous messages), where I try to clarify my question. I
> am aware of the rules for deleted coutries credits. My question wasn't
> about credit for me, but for those friends in German Democratic Republic
> (East Germany) who changed calls and DXCC entity. Please, read below.
> Again, thanks a lot for your comments.
> 73, Roger - PY1OL
>> -----clip-----
> OK about the Y2-Y9 cards that we have. No problems. Deleted country credits
> and so on. Also OK about the DL bureau cross references for locating the
> corresponding new calls.
>> Now, please let me make a better explanation of my second question: the
> problem is the cards that we SEND them. Let's suppose that *today*, a DX
> station (say DX1DX) fills out a card to... let's say Y22XXX. Suppose that
> the card is correctly delivered. Is this DX1DX QSL card of any current use
> for the guy who used to be Y22XXX?
>> The DX1DX card is confirming a QSO with Y22XXX. Now, Y22XXX is, for
> instance, DL2XXX. Question is: can DL2XXX, nowadays, use that DX1DX card
> and claim for DXCC credit for his new callsign?
>> 73, Roger - PY1OL - Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
> -----clip-----
>> At 15:51 6/1/2002 -0600, you wrote:
> >ROGER:
> >
> >The ARRL will give you credit for East Germany (now a deleted country) which
> >will count in your overall country total if the QSOs were made before East
> >Germany and West Germany were united into one country. The ARRL keeps 2
> >country totals overall and current. That's why on the DXCC list you see most
> >listings with two numbers. I think mine is 334 overall and 328
> >current. Other
> >really old timers have something like 360 or so and 335 current if they've
> >worked everything. Your "current" total is what the ARRL uses to
> >determine the
> >DXCC honor roll.
> >
> >If you have additional questions you might e-mail Bill Moore NC1L at the ARRL,
> >he manages the DXCC program and can answer just about anything DXCC related.
> >
> >(DA-DL) Only contacts made with DA-DL stations September 17,1973,
> > and after, and contacts made Y2-Y9 stations October 3, 1990 and
> > after, count for this entity (Germany) (new DXCC list)
> >
> >This is from the "deleted" countries list
> >
> >DA-DM(18) Germany (West Germany)
> >DM, Y2-9(19) German Dem.Rep. (East Germany)
> >
> >18 (DA-DM) Only contacts made September 16, 1973, and before,
> > count for this entity. Contacts made September 17, 1973,
> > and after, count as either FRG (DA-DL) or GDR (Y2-Y9).
> >19 (DM,Y2-9) Only contacts made from September 17, 1973, to
> > October 2, 1990 count for this entity. On October 3, 1990
> > the GDR became part of the FRG.
> >
> >Tom, WW5L
> >
> >
> >
> >Roger wrote:
> >
> > > Dear Friends, Happy New Year!
> > > Some questions about old QSOs, made when East Germany had prefixes like Y2,
> > > Y3, Y4, Y5, etc.
> > >
> > > 1 - What happens if somebody NOW sends QSL cards to these stations through
> > > the DL bureau? Is the DL bureau able to identify the owner of that old
> > > Y2-Y9 callsign and deliver the card (of course I am not asking about
> > > non-members)?
> > >
> > > 2 - If the cards reach the correct destination, will these cards be good
> > > for credit for DXCC and/or WPX, etc? The reason for this question is: if
> > > somebody moves from the DXCC country where he lives, his DXCC totals and
> > > all of his QSL cards will not be good for the new DXCC country he went to.
> > > I know that this isn't what happened with East Germany (of course they did
> > > not "move", hi) but East Germany now is deleted and those stations now are
> > > in another DXCC entity (DL).
> > >
> > > - How did ARRL managed this situation for the Y2-Y9 stations?
> > > - Did they keep all their previous credits (i.e., were these old credits
> > > transfered to their new DL callsign)?
> > > - Can they, nowadays, ask for credit using cards that confirm QSOs with
> > > their old Y2-Y9 callsigns?
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Roger - PY1OL
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