#asciilifeform | 2021年08月03日

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02:13 asciilifeform ok, fluffypony's extradition judgement (txt) is pure gold. rec'd read for erryone tuned in.
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02:13 asciilifeform will paste highlights. e.g. accused of stealing a princely sum of... 99,185ドル.
02:16 asciilifeform 'As detailed above, the purpose of an extradition hearing is to decide the sufficiency of the charges for which extradition is requested under the applicable extradition treaty; it is not to determine the guilt or innocence of the fugitive—that determination is reserved for the foreign court. ... ("A United States court dealing with an extradition request for an accused is obliged to
02:16 asciilifeform resist any temptation to judge the guilt or innocence of the accused.") ... An extradition hearing is not a criminal proceeding. ... Rather, it is "an administrative proceeding arising under international law for certification and approval of the State Department’s decision to extradite this person at the request of a foreign government," ...
02:16 asciilifeform '
02:17 asciilifeform 'Accordingly, the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure do not apply to extradition proceedings. ... ("Proceedings not governed by these rules include . . . the extradition and rendition of a fugitive."). Moreover, many constitutional protections applicable in criminal cases do not apply to extradition proceedings; for example, the exclusionary rule is not applicable... and a fugitive does
02:17 asciilifeform not have the right to confront his accusers...'
02:18 asciilifeform 'Nor do the Federal Rules of Evidence apply to extradition proceedings.... Hearsay evidence is admissible at an extradition hearing, and "[a]certification of extradition may be and usually is based entirely on the authenticated documentary evidence and information provided by the requesting government."... unsworn statements may be sufficient to justify extradition)... Nothing more is
02:18 asciilifeform required, and typically nothing more is provided.... "It is exceedingly rare for the Government to submit anything other than documents in support of an extradition request.")
02:18 asciilifeform '
02:19 mats this is so dumb its hard to believe
02:19 asciilifeform 'Extradition treaties do not require, or even anticipate, the testimony of live witnesses at the hearing. Indeed, requiring the "demanding government to send its citizens to another country to institute legal proceedings, would defeat the whole object of the treaty." Relatedly, a fugitive has no right to discovery... and his right to challenge the evidence against him at an extradition
02:19 asciilifeform hearing is severely constrained...'
02:19 mats he directed a payment into an account in his own name instead of a shill?
02:19 mats and thought no forensic accountant would ever discover the scheme?
02:19 asciilifeform 'A fugitive may not introduce evidence that contradicts the evidence submitted on behalf of the requesting country, but rather may only introduce evidence explaining the submitted evidence.... Courts routinely reject technical and affirmative defenses in extradition proceedings.... extradition court "properly may exclude evidence of alibi, or facts contradicting the government’s proof...'
02:20 asciilifeform i could go on, but why. read whole thing.
02:20 mats looks like a frame up job
02:21 asciilifeform fascinating document.
02:21 mats literally can't believe a guy with that much money from his latest con would offer himself up to american law enforcement
02:22 asciilifeform reads almost as if judge were a reluctant servant of the reich, and wanted to highlight the sheer insanity (essentially, secretary of state has letre de cache power over anyone on us soil -- simply needs to connive with some banana republic with whom extraditory treaty exists, to accuse the victim of sumthing or other
02:22 asciilifeform )
02:22 asciilifeform mats: observe, they aint trying him in usa.
02:22 asciilifeform will be 'tried' slowly over a simmering coal fire in africa. until coughts up the keyz.
02:24 mats why would he flee from s africa, which has a MLAT agreement with usa, and head for usa
02:24 mats not like the proceedings were hidden from him
02:24 asciilifeform mats: doubtful that he was aware that he was 'fleeing'.
02:25 mats "He pleaded not guilty to the charges, and the trial against him was commenced. Evidence was presented against him, but SPAGNI failed to appear in court."
02:25 asciilifeform mats: read the txt, apparently simply leaving and failing to immediately return to $shithole when they had whatever (supposedly) proceedings against you, is 'flight'.
02:25 mats ??? did he think the americans would shield him?
02:25 asciilifeform cites case law.
02:26 mats and they, what, reneged?
02:26 asciilifeform i'ma spell out for the thick. usg dept. of btc collection connived with sa to 'file charges' against this discount-mp.
02:27 asciilifeform then waited until he flew his jet (yes) to whatever the fuck he was doing in tennessee (cheap whores? shitcoin conference?) and packed him for shipment to johannesburg
02:27 asciilifeform where they'll angle grinder his teeth etc.
02:28 mats hmm
02:28 asciilifeform aaalternatively mats you could believe that a fella w/ own jet and 800k watch and $maxint shitcoin etc stole 99k $ by kiting cheques.
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02:28 mats well the wire fraud predates bitcoin
02:28 mats allegedly
02:28 asciilifeform and can't backdate because why.
02:29 asciilifeform naturally it'll 'pre-date bitcoin' lol
02:29 asciilifeform the case is so crudely cooked up, possibly even down's syndrome american jury would reject. which is why it aint about to be heard by such a jury.
02:30 asciilifeform it'll be heard by general mugabe or whatever they have these days.
02:30 mats backdate is an appealing theory, but there isn't even circumstantial evidence
02:30 asciilifeform mats: on whom in your mind burden of proof ?
02:30 punkman 100ドルk eh, was expecting even lower
02:31 mats i'm just saying there's not enough pieces here
02:31 asciilifeform mats: my story above has at least 100% of the credibility of usg's nonsense.
02:31 asciilifeform and, unlike said nonsense, motive, and plausibility.
02:32 asciilifeform hey mats you ever been to, say, thailand ?
02:32 mats nop
02:32 asciilifeform let's say no. but from my reading of the linked txt, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop us sec. of state from extraditing mats to thailand. today.
02:33 shinohai http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-02#1050063 << ahahaha this was exactly my thoughts - why would "suddenly" be charged for change in his couch cushions?
02:33 dulapbot Logged on 2021年08月02日 22:24:14 asciilifeform: aaalternatively mats you could believe that a fella w/ own jet and 800k watch and $maxint shitcoin etc stole 99k $ by kiting cheques.
02:33 asciilifeform all he needs is to get somebody there to send a telegram asking for mats, he's wanted for stealing $trillion.
02:33 asciilifeform court will rubber-stamp.
02:33 asciilifeform 'extradition court "properly may exclude evidence of alibi, or facts contradicting the government’s proof...''
02:33 asciilifeform 'i aint ever been to thailand' is no defense!!
02:35 asciilifeform for that matter, folx large and small, from noriega to common chimp, get extradited to usa, where they've never set foot even once, and sentenced to 500 years. so superficially even seems 'fair', to casual plebe reader, that the reverse sometimes happens.
02:37 mats ill suspend evaluation until he dies in custody or the trial concludes
02:37 asciilifeform ''("In the context of determining whether a defendant poses a substantial risk of flight, this Court does not find any meaningful distinction between a person who left the country when he learned of pending charges and one who already outside the country refuses to return to face these charges. The intent is the same—the avoidance of prosecution.")... finding fugitive to be a flight
02:37 asciilifeform risk because, among other things, he could have "return[ed] to Mexico and voluntarily surrender[ed], [but] he has not done so").''
02:37 asciilifeform ^ gold.
02:38 asciilifeform mats: i find it difficult to imagine the d00d getting out of that one alive. but fuck knows.
02:39 asciilifeform not does asciilifeform have a single lick of sympathy for that fuckwad. simply finds interesting that tonight mats , asciilifeform , et al can be extradited to saudi arabia, and 100% legally, impeccably legally.
02:39 asciilifeform pretty sure i broke saudi laws quite egregiously many times. as has mats etc.
02:40 asciilifeform so what if never been within 10000km of the shithole..
02:41 punkman "Unfortunately, due to a misunderstanding with regards to the setting of court dates in an old matter, which I have continuously been trying to resolve since 2011, have been held in contempt of court and currently awaiting extradition. I am hoping to resolve this misunderstanding within a short while. In the meantime my business affairs will
02:41 punkman continue under the leadership of my partners."
02:42 asciilifeform lol same partners who, likely, helped to set up.
02:42 punkman SA economy crumbling, people over there thought they might make some BTC, found old bezzle to use
02:43 asciilifeform betcha they know how to extract btc from intransigent white devil in sa.
02:44 mats not so easy if its not a brain wallet
02:44 * asciilifeform wonders if usg official in charge was smart enuff to demand % of his cut in advance
02:44 asciilifeform mats: all wallets are, in some sense, brainwallets.
02:44 punkman https://www.coindesk.com/fluffypony-weighs-in-on-cbdc-trend-at-davos-2020 lol
02:44 mats now gotta convince the spouse to hand over ransom
02:45 mats hope he was still eating the pussy even after becoming an oligarch
02:45 asciilifeform lol
02:46 punkman physiognomy tells me they will probably find more bezzlew
02:49 asciilifeform !q seen-anywhere fluffypony
02:49 dulapbot fluffypony last seen in #trilema on 2016年03月24日 11:22:30: otherwise you learn nothing and you're forever forced to wallow in your own ignorance
02:51 punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E70PdAwXEAgSfjh?format=jpg&name=small << apparently might have "embezzled" some "monero fund" too
02:52 asciilifeform oblig: the 'ring signatures' thread, w/ above.
02:52 dulapbot (trilema) 2016年03月05日 punkman: does monero solve the miner-can-block-my-tx with its ring signatures? (ping fluffypony)
02:53 punkman https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2020/09/14/irs-will-pay-up-to-625000-if-you-can-crack-monero-other-privacy-coins/?sh=4fc977c285cc
02:53 punkman look at IRS being all helpful with "bug bounty"
02:53 asciilifeform but how much after tax!1111?
02:55 asciilifeform 'The deadline for submissions is Wednesday, September 16, 2020, at 08:00 EDT. '
02:55 asciilifeform or lol already in orig link.
02:55 asciilifeform toolate punkman , to claim yer 625000 - (50-100% tax) , lol.
02:57 asciilifeform reminds asciilifeform , who, unlike the expected reader of this, has more memory than aquarium fish -- of the bounties for 'break tor', 'break silk road', at the time when both already thoroughly broken and owned by usg
02:58 asciilifeform 'IRS-CI has noted an uptick in criminal syndicates using privacy coins. ' rright, rright, errything to discourage use of actual bitcoin by the gullible/roomtemp iq typical usa 'dissidents'.
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02:58 mats looks like 401k and some change after tax, lol
02:58 asciilifeform mats: oops sorry you forgot form xyz. it'll be anuther 400k from you before tuesday plz.
02:59 asciilifeform then the remaining $k taken by police in 'in rem' judgement, 'usa vs 1ドルk in rusty pennies in mats's car'
02:59 mats remember me
03:00 asciilifeform will!
03:07 punkman https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6d5yt5/what_fluffypony_just_did_is_not_ok/
03:07 punkman "He pre-announced a 'big announcement' a bit ago, and made a big deal about it. This caused the price to nearly double. It turned out today that the announcement was basically "lol you shouldn't have listened to me, there's no announcement, fuck you speculators". This caused the price to crash."
03:07 punkman lol
03:07 asciilifeform musk extrdited to sa when.
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03:29 punkman https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/o2m20e/as_monero_reels_from_another_embezzlement_scandal/
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04:11 thimbronion PeterL: this patch should apply cleanly to the genesis you have: http://share.alethepedia.com/alcuin/alcuin-9998-encryption.vdiff
04:23 thimbronion Hopefully can get dedupe and forwarding working before I'm extradited to Argentina.
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05:06 punkman in other seizures https://librehash.org/ravid-yosef-was-likely-arrested/
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05:22 signpost http://trilema.com/2014/fuck-me-fuck-you/ << hue, thought I recognized the name.
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05:38 punkman "BREAKING: Saudi oil giant Aramco has denied all rumors and reports of company's intent to mine #Bitcoin"
05:38 punkman so... Saudi's be mining now
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06:17 punkman another one for the pile of bodies: Risto Pietila. apparently died in car accident last year.
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06:18 punkman and his Bitcoin Castle burned https://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000005820143.html
06:22 punkman "At the heart of Pietilä’s empire was the Dragon Cult, where he was its dragon. That is, an absolute dictator that everyone had to obey immediately. The most loyal then received surprise gifts, usually bitcoins or moneros worth hundreds of euros and sometimes even thousands of euros. However, you could never know if money was coming or not.
06:22 punkman Thus, the members of the cult were always kept on their toes poking."
06:24 punkman "The more submissive you were to the dragon, the more money you got. You also had to take part in his online dragon game and learn its code language. If you believed in the dragon enough, then your dreams would come true. True believers would get everything they ever wanted."
06:31 punkman he was trying to do a "nationalism" in Finland, alt-right/alt-media, "Fixit" (ala Brexit)
06:31 punkman "In fact, it was Pietilä that caused a wide range of mentally ill, drug addicts, alcoholics and other lunatics to flood the alternative media and nationalist activities in general. Normally, such a gang is quickly eliminated from political activity, but not if they are supported by a millionaire.
06:31 punkman "
06:34 punkman "Pietilä himself often wondered how easy it is to buy people. He stressed that it is never worth giving very large sums. Reportedly, a few dozen per person can go a long way, especially if you occasionally give a few hundred."
06:35 punkman "Risto Pietilä was a tragic figure in many ways. On a personal level, he was pleasant to those he respected, but really raw and outrageous to the "ordinary" people. He was a real extremist."
06:35 punkman "Despite all his shortcomings, Pietilä could really have saved Finland by supporting genuine nationalists. However, he never agreed to it, but on the contrary, together with the power elite and polpo, sabotaged and rotted genocidal activities. Without Pietilä's support, Korhonen, Huuhtanen and the violent drunken straps would never have been able
06:35 punkman to rot the nationalist field."
06:36 punkman "Then this autumn, Pietilä died unexpectedly in a very strange car accident. Death looks strongly like suicide. Pietilä was very bipolar in the sense that he spent a couple of months getting excited about something and worked very effectively. Then, however, I was depressed again and everything stopped. He often went on "vacation" to a mental
06:36 punkman hospital."
06:37 punkman (src: https://laitonlehti.net/2020/09/20/rih-bitcoin-miljonaari-risto-pietila-naton-hybridisotilas/ )
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08:08 punkman only for expert entomologists: Dragon Keynote in Barcelona (August 2019) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p61C9sSY4o
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14:59 signpost punkman: man, why didn't I join the cult with a rewards program?
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15:26 thimbronion Possibly joined only cult that explicitly banned rewards.
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15:47 asciilifeform lol
15:47 asciilifeform punkman: d00d even grew a reasonably mp-like beard! apparently!
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16:39 * signpost has a mighty beard himself.
16:39 asciilifeform a++
16:39 signpost clearly I'm in the wrong profession, just need to go find some bitches that like to be made to lick the toilet seat or w/e
16:41 asciilifeform http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-08-03#1050150 << even bought ~the~ hat!1111
16:41 dulapbot Logged on 2021年08月03日 02:33:16 punkman: (src: https://laitonlehti.net/2020/09/20/rih-bitcoin-miljonaari-risto-pietila-naton-hybridisotilas/ )
16:41 shinohai signpost: If you need help in finding toilet licking bitches I might be prepared to help is the BTC price is right.
16:42 signpost nah, I am a simple man.
16:44 shinohai Of course hanbot and Nicole are single now probably ......
16:45 asciilifeform not sealed up in pyramid?!11
16:46 signpost http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-04-23#1034571 << still my vibe.
16:46 dulapbot Logged on 2021年04月23日 16:54:58 trinque: still with the one, but found the last one that bakes pies for his father's birthday unsolicited, apparently.
16:46 shinohai Yeah would have thought they would have thrown selves on funeral pyre.
16:47 signpost never got the "manufacture misery as a good in itself" line.
16:47 signpost damn, still getting used to a new keyboard, lol
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17:34 punkman http://thewhet.net/2021/07/to-be-a-blog-and-not-a-vase/#comment-57658 << apparently what to do with leftover mpex is "genuine problem"
17:35 asciilifeform 'ghost processes with all the bells and whistles of life but no real vigor' lol
17:36 * asciilifeform believe or not, has not been following subj in realtime..
17:38 punkman I wonder if any schmuck bought piece in private when mpex delisted itself
17:38 asciilifeform punkman: bought what ?
17:38 punkman piece of mpex
17:39 asciilifeform punkman: not per mp iirc.
17:39 punkman I remember such thing being implied at the time
17:40 * asciilifeform admits: treats all mpex source material as works of fiction
17:41 asciilifeform 'Your attempt at passing personal political issues as "curiosity" over a genuine problem is particularly unwelcome.' << lollomatic
17:41 asciilifeform BingoBoingo you know full well you aint getting anyffing but 'dead donkey's ears' there.
17:45 punkman https://www.hellopeter.com/sandown-motors/reviews/waited-for-14-months-zero-comms-pathetic-service-2714971 << the "home improover" buying a car
17:45 asciilifeform punkman: wassat?
17:45 punkman fluffypony's wife
17:45 asciilifeform a
17:48 mats odds are pretty good mp bought all the outstanding public shares to take it private
17:48 asciilifeform mats: iirc was what he said, at any rate
17:49 mats thought he said an unspecified investor did it
17:49 * asciilifeform goes, reads the sad chix comment threads, as expected, 0 of interest
17:49 punkman and in other monero lulz https://sethforprivacy.com/posts/moneros-ongoing-network-attack/
17:51 asciilifeform 'inject their malicious nodes into valid node peer lists and consists of only sending malicious nodes via their own peer lists when requested by valid nodes while spamming very large peer lists' << lolwat only nao usg-spamola in that shitcoin ?
17:52 thestringpuller fluffypony gonna end up like Assange at this rate
17:52 asciilifeform 'link the IP address of a node with particular transactions. This is done by spamming peer lists as we discussed above, and then attributing transactions to the node that first shares the transaction via p2p with the spying nodes' << what part of 'plaintext packets are public' do morons not grasp, lol
17:53 thestringpuller mats just like a "private investor" bought S.DICE (was actually voorhees trynna not get raped by the SEC)
17:57 asciilifeform anyways the arrest of the monero derp is not simply to refill the waterfall. but also to boost 'cred' of that particular, and other, 'privacy'(tm)-flavoured shitcoins.
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17:57 dulapbot Logged on 2021年08月02日 22:54:09 asciilifeform: 'IRS-CI has noted an uptick in criminal syndicates using privacy coins. ' rright, rright, errything to discourage use of actual bitcoin by the gullible/roomtemp iq typical usa 'dissidents'.
17:58 asciilifeform 'see, usg really hates! learn the 45 weird tricks irs doesn't want you to know! monero! tor! signal!' etc
17:58 asciilifeform cattle -- to the stall.
18:01 punkman https://nkalex.medium.com/are-geophysics-dramatically-changing-covid19-outcomes-in-some-locations-82f8a06ace7b
18:01 punkman I stumbled across the "flu comes from space" theory few months ago, fun
18:03 asciilifeform punkman: 'martians'.
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18:03 dulapbot Logged on 2021年07月26日 12:17:50 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-26#1048608 << textbook example of successfully applied discreditation spray.
18:03 punkman did ya know flu completely disappeared worldwide since last March
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18:04 asciilifeform punkman: not reappeared yet? at some point i'd expect they'd revert the relabel, s/covid/flu again
18:04 punkman not for lack of testing, at least in EU and most other countries I looked at
18:04 punkman they are saying some flu variants might have gone extinct
18:05 punkman best theory they have (pulled from arse) is that travel restrictions, social distancing and mask are the reason
18:06 punkman but also disappeared from countries with barely any "covid measures"
18:08 asciilifeform punkman: the shuttering of hospitals under banner of covidiocy can similarly magically disappear almost all disease. straight from bed to funeral parlour, now they go, and the mortician doesn't diagnose or increment e.g. flu stats
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18:15 punkman yeah that was my line of thinking, but here take a look at EU stats: https://i.imgur.com/kbm4qjp.jpeg
18:19 punkman anecdotally, I haven't caught the flu since 2019, and same for friends I've asked. Also met a guy that works in lab and is responsible for reporting flu cases, hasn't had a single one since March 2020
18:21 punkman of course, a LOT of the flu experts have moved on to being covid experts, so pretty much nobody looking into this
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18:39 signpost yeah, I'd credit the "those particular bureaucracies are currently clogged, hence 0 metrics" hypothesis
18:40 thimbronion One theory is that the covid-19 test can't distinguish the two
18:40 signpost watch as various other treatable ailments suddenly become much more dangerous as hospitals clog with people of walmart succumbing
18:41 signpost eh, I've got enough meatwot medical to doubt any specific conspiracy theory about covid not existing.
18:41 signpost now... hospitals killing people by not knowing how to treat last time, yes. probably.
18:43 signpost and now, at least in texas, why would we expect ICU capacity to be at a reasonable level in a place that can't run a power grid?
18:45 thimbronion Personally convinced it's real. I tested negative for the flu around March 2020 after being sicker than I've ever been. There was no covid test available at the time.
18:51 signpost frankly I think those dumb fucks were playing with gain-of-function research and let something out.
18:51 signpost I also think that one of the reasons it has been so bad for some is their underlying deplorable health.
18:52 signpost now, what the process of evolution leaves us with is anyone's guess.
18:52 asciilifeform related thrd.
18:52 dulapbot Logged on 2021年07月19日 11:29:53 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/asciilifeform/2021-07-19#1046856 << very interesting subj (possibly more interesting to asciilifeform that other folx, because for a time worked in usg's 'peacewashed' hidden-in-plain-sight 'defensive' bugspray-for-humans program)
18:53 signpost asciilifeform: btw logs going up/down, possibly something going on
18:53 asciilifeform signpost: loads here 10/10
18:53 signpost could be dns issues on my end, getting connection refused
18:53 thimbronion In my case not overweight, but I definitely had vitamin D,B deficiency.
18:53 asciilifeform signpost: didja see packet loss ?
18:54 signpost no packet loss on ping, resolving to 205.134.172.3
18:54 asciilifeform not to mention that yer talking into it, lol
18:55 signpost oh for fuck's sake, browser has decided that it's https
18:55 asciilifeform lolwat.
18:55 signpost for safety!
18:55 * asciilifeform not changed anyffin on that box's apache since 1st powered up yr+ ago
18:56 asciilifeform and ftr there is nuffin sslistic on that box.
18:56 signpost nah it's the stupid chromium
18:57 * asciilifeform suspects typo on signpost's end, which ended up in cache
18:57 signpost anyhow, re: linked thread, definitely likely to get milder with time, with the caveat that we may be introducing protein-spike selection pressure with the highly specific mRNA vaccines
18:58 * asciilifeform had the 'good, old' original covid. was unpleasant, and contracted random headaches which recurred for nearly year afterwards. but otherwise snoar.
18:58 thimbronion asciilifeform: I also had such headaches!
18:59 asciilifeform thimbronion: iirc not uncommon.
18:59 * signpost vax'd, but was similarly down with mystery flu in dec '19
18:59 signpost wife also, severely
19:00 asciilifeform asciilifeform's pet went down 1st, and similarly, but somewhat like accounts of being gassed in ww1, lost stamina and 'winded quickly', only recently more or less back to prev.
19:01 asciilifeform it aint the virus, per se, that's bogus.
19:04 signpost certainly, it's the "what's left of small business is ours to destroy at will" and so on.
19:05 signpost "we can require arbitrary mRNA injections" etc
19:10 punkman I believe covid's real, but got too many questions, like any sane person
19:11 punkman "antivax denier terorrists"
19:12 punkman might try ivermectin if I catch teh pox
19:12 asciilifeform see also thrd.
19:12 dulapbot Logged on 2020年04月04日 16:20:04 asciilifeform: lizard system relies on periodic engineered 'crisis'. well-known fact for 100+y.
19:13 asciilifeform '1) start fire 2) buy errything at fire-sale price 3) profit!11'
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19:13 dulapbot Logged on 2020年04月04日 16:25:43 asciilifeform: if you owned e.g. restaurant, bakery, etc. free & clear, guesswat, nao what remains of it is mortgaged to the parasite class.
19:14 signpost seems like the period of the cycle has been reduced to yearly, too
19:14 signpost curious how the tightening of it plays out.
19:14 asciilifeform not to mention, rentiers laffed all the way to the bank as real estate, 'stonks',etc. doubled, tripled; meanwhile savings of plebes confiscated via inflatism
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19:14 asciilifeform precisely like in '90s ru
19:16 * signpost is for example curious how the 2020 stonk correction was clearly "caused by covid", yet few mention they went almost as deeply at the turn of 2019
19:16 signpost seems like time to press the reset button again and see what shakes out.
19:26 punkman asciilifeform: btw did you go through mononucleosis when young? saw a paper finding correlation between "long covid" and latent Epstein–Barr virus
19:26 asciilifeform punkman: not afaik
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20:45 asciilifeform meanwhile:
20:45 asciilifeform 'You must use TLS/SSL and authenticate via SASL to connect to freenode'
20:46 asciilifeform ^ nomoar snsabot on fleanode.
20:46 asciilifeform goodbye, shithole.
20:47 * asciilifeform finally gets off fleanode for good.
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20:48 asciilifeform !q seen-anywhere snsabot
20:48 dulapbot snsabot last seen in #asciilifeform on 2021年07月21日 13:41:37: Logged on 2021年06月15日 22:06:55 asciilifeform: 205.134.172.3:6667
20:49 asciilifeform ^ last time anyone spoke there
20:50 asciilifeform the next raw_avocado will have to find the logs on own steam.
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21:07 billymg asciilifeform: took you a bit longer to get that error than it took me
21:07 dulapbot Logged on 2021年07月29日 14:20:04 billymg: i started getting this error from freenode sometime this morning as well, although it didn't seem to kick me from the network
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22:13 shinohai https://twitter.com/wizsecurity/status/1422679326739210242 << Don't worry, CSW is Satoshi he'll fix this!
~ 27 minutes ~
22:41 asciilifeform 'bitcoin-cli invalidateblock ....' << genius!111111
22:41 shinohai Just start publishing block hashes to twitter when they arrive.
22:41 shinohai It'll work.
22:41 shinohai ^________^
22:48 asciilifeform shinohai: it aint any dumber than how ethertardium entirely Officially worx
22:48 asciilifeform 'this block duncount!!'
22:55 shinohai The best part to me is Hoaxtoshi's henchman Calvin Ayre saying he's "reporting the attacking miner to the police".
22:55 asciilifeform shinohai: i thought that was hearn
22:55 dulapbot Logged on 2021年07月10日 18:42:37 punkman: top kek "As part of regular monitoring of the network by the Bitcoin SV Infrastructure Team, the Association has been made aware of an illegal attack against the Bitcoin SV network. A malicious actor has recently been carrying out block re-organisation attacks on the Bitcoin SV network, which appear to be intentional acts in an effort to illegally
22:57 shinohai Everything is "illegal" to them, iirc once they told Blockstream they would report their satellites to US DoD.
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