Given a cubic $$ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0$$ You can divide by $a$, and replace $x$ with $w - \frac{b}{3a}$ to center the cubic and remove the quadratic term
$$ \begin{aligned} ax^3+bx^2+cx+d &= 0 \\ x^3+\frac{b}{a}x^2+\frac{c}{a}x+\frac{d}{a} &= 0 \\ (w-\frac{b}{3a})^3+\frac{b}{a}(w - \frac{b}{3a})^2 + \frac{c}{a}(w-\frac{b}{3a})+\frac{d}{a}&=0 \\ w^3-\frac{b}{a}w^2+\frac{b^2}{3a^2}w-\frac{b^3}{27a^3} + \frac{b}{a}w^2-\frac{2b^2}{3a^2}w+\frac{b^3}{9a^3}+\frac{c}{a}w-\frac{bc}{3a^2}+\frac{d}{a}&=0 \\ w^3-\frac{b^2}{3a^2}w+\frac{c}{a}w+\frac{2b^3}{27a^3}-\frac{bc}{3a^2}+\frac{d}{a}&=0 \end{aligned} $$
For the sake of simplicity, let $\frac{c}{a} - \frac{b^2}{3a^2}=p$, and let $\frac{2b^3}{27a^3}-\frac{bc}{3a^2}+\frac{d}{a} = q$. This would reduce the cubic to a depressed form like so:
$$w^3+pw+q=0$$
From here, I've seen two different ways to solve for $w$. For this, I'll provide an example problem: $w^3 - \frac{1}{3}w - \frac{2}{27} = 0$ (note: $w = x + \frac{4}{3}$).
Method 1: Set $w = u + v$, which would look like this:
$$ \begin{aligned} u^3+3uv(u + v) + v^3+(u + v)p + q= 0 \\ u^3 + v^3 + (3uv + p)(u + v) + q = 0 \end{aligned} $$
This is where my first, smaller question, lies: why set 3ドルuv + p$ to 0? This part does not intuitively make sense to me, however I will proceed through it.
Set 3ドルuv + p = 0$, which would grant us our system of equations:
$$ \begin{aligned} u^3v^3=\frac{-p^3}{27} && && u^3 + v^3 = -q \end{aligned} $$
In our case, $u^3v^3 = \frac{1}{729}$, $u^3 + v^3 = \frac{2}{27}$. Making a quadratic for $u^3$ gives us this:
$$u^6 + u^3q - \frac{p^3}{27} = 0$$
Solving for $u^3$:
$$u^3 = \frac{-q\pm \sqrt{q^2 + \frac{4p^3}{27}}}{2}$$
Now, this brings forth my second question. Which root should I use? We're given two answers for $u^3$, and I am unsure of when to use the positive and negative root. For the example question, the result is this (which doesn't require me to pick sign):
$$u^3 = \frac{\frac{2}{27} \pm \sqrt{\frac{4}{729} - \frac{4}{729}}}{2} = \frac{1}{27}$$
Since $u^3 = \frac{1}{27}$, $v^3 = \frac{1}{27}$ as well, and $w = u + v = \boxed{\frac{2}{3}}$, which is one of the roots of the depressed cubic.
Method 2: Set $w + y = z$, similar to completing the square.
Similar to completing the square, move the constant to one side:
$$w^3 +pw = -q$$
We are assuming that $w^3 + pw$ combined is an incomplete cube, and as such we are going to add $y^3$ to it to make it a full cube of side lengths $z$. To do that, however, we must assume that $pw$ will cover the middle terms of the cubic:
$$pw = 3w^2y + 3wy^2 = 3wy(w + y) = 3wyz$$
This means $p = 3yz$ (meaning $z = \frac{p}{3y}$), and we can add our $y^3$ to the depressed cubic:
$$ \begin{aligned} w^3 + pw + y^3 &= -q + y^3 \\ z^3 &= -q + y^3 \\ \frac{p^3}{27y^3} &= -q + y^3 \\ \frac{p^3}{27} &= -qy^3 + y^6 \end{aligned} $$
Which ends up in another quadratic with respect to $y^3$, and $y^3$ becomes this:
$$ y^3 = \frac{q \pm \sqrt{q^2 + \frac{4p^3}{27}}}{2} $$
For our example, $y^3$ is below:
$$\frac{-\frac{2}{27} \pm \sqrt{\frac{4}{729} - \frac{4}{729} }}{2} = -\frac{1}{27}$$
Meaning $y = -\frac{1}{3} = p$, meaning $z = \frac{1}{3}$, and $w = \boxed{\frac{2}{3}}$, which is the same root found previously.
Now my questions are:
- For Method 1, why set 3ドルuv + p = 0$?
- For Method 1 & 2, which root should you pick in solving the quadratic?
- Why is Method 1 more popular?
- Can you force a specific root? For example, the depressed cubic I gave has a double root at $-\frac{1}{3}$, how would you go about finding that (without dividing the cubic)?
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1$\begingroup$ Why should this question be closed ? It is very well written and attests work ! $\endgroup$Jean Marie– Jean Marie2025年10月15日 07:40:13 +00:00Commented Oct 15 at 7:40
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$\begingroup$ See also Motivation of Vieta's transformation and Cubic equation#Vieta's substitution $\endgroup$mezzoctane– mezzoctane2025年10月15日 22:57:13 +00:00Commented Oct 15 at 22:57
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This is where my first, smaller question, lies: why set 3ドルuv + p$ to 0? This part does not intuitively make sense to me, however I will proceed through it.
In the Cardano's method, we had the form $w^3 + p\cdot w + q = 0$ and set $w = u + v$, in order to obtain an "extra degree of freedom":
$$ \begin{aligned} \left(u + v\right)^3 + p\cdot\left(u + v\right) + q = 0 \\ u^3 + 3\cdot u^2\cdot v + 3\cdot u\cdot v^2 + v^3 + p\cdot\left(u + v\right) + q = 0 \\ u^3 + v^3 + 3\cdot u\cdot v\cdot \left(u + v\right) + p\cdot\left(u + v\right) + q = 0 \\ u^3 + v^3 + \left(3\cdot u\cdot v + p\right)\cdot\left(u + v\right) + q = 0 \end{aligned} $$
Now we use the "degree of freedom" by fixing $u$, $v$ so that 3ドル\cdot u\cdot v+p = 0$, in order to get rid of the inconvenient term $\left(3\cdot u\cdot v + p\right)\cdot\left(u + v\right)$ and to reach a quadratic equation for $u^3$:
$$ \begin{aligned} u^3 + v^3 + q = 0 \\ u^3 + \left(-\frac{p}{3\cdot u}\right)^3 + q = 0 \\ u^3 - \frac{p^3}{27\cdot u^3} + q = 0 \\ u^6 + q\cdot u^3 - \frac{p^3}{27} = 0 \\ u^3 = \frac{-q\pm\sqrt{q^2+\frac{4\cdot p^3}{27}}}{2} \\ u^3 = -\frac{q}{2}\pm\sqrt{\frac{q^2}{4}+\frac{p^3}{27}} \end{aligned} $$
Which root should I use? We're given two answers for $u^3$, and I am unsure of when to use the positive and negative root.
The system that led to the quadratic equation was symmetric; the two solutions of the quadratic equation are $u^3$ and $v^3$, and choosing the sign will simply exchange them. We can choose
$$ \begin{aligned} \delta^2 = \Delta = \frac{q^2}{4}+\frac{p^3}{27} \\ u^3 = -\frac{q}{2}+\delta \\ v^3 = -\frac{q}{2}-\delta \end{aligned} $$
If $\Delta > 0$ then there are two possible real choices of $\delta$; the choice is arbitrary but it must be the same in expressions for $u^3$, $v^3$. If $\Delta = 0$ then $u^3 = v^3 = -\frac{q}{2}$. If $\Delta < 0$ then there are two possible complex choices of $\delta$; again, the choice is arbitrary but it must be the same in expressions for $u^3$, $v^3$.
Now, unless $u^3 = 0$, there are three different complex choices of $u$. Likewise, unless $v^3 = 0$, there are three possible complex choices of $v$. However, these choices are not independent because we know 3ドル\cdot u\cdot v+p = 0$; once $u = \sqrt[3]{u^{3}}$ is chosen, $v = -\frac{p}{3\cdot u}$. Three solutions $\left(u, v\right)$ give three solutions $w=u+v$ of the cubic $w^3 + p\cdot w + q = 0$.
See also questions Understanding Cardano's method, Understanding Cardano's Formula
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$\begingroup$ I understand the reason to set 3ドルuv + p = 0,ドル thank you very much for that. For the choice of roots: would the same symmetric situation arise with the second method? Also, why is the first method preferred to find the root, as the second method only assumes that $pw$ covers the middle parts of the cube? $\endgroup$LuckElixir– LuckElixir2025年10月15日 20:10:17 +00:00Commented Oct 15 at 20:10