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Started by: raddevon raddevon
Date: 30 Jun 2007 00:29
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Is there a way to make forums that exist but cannot be unhidden or are visible only to certain users?
Truly hidden forums
raddevon raddevon 30 Jun 2007 00:29

Is there a way to make forums that exist but cannot be unhidden or are visible only to certain users? I have the forums "hidden," but users can simply show the hidden forums to see them. Anyone know of another way?

by raddevon raddevon , 30 Jun 2007 00:29
Re: Truly hidden forums
Helmut_pdorf Helmut_pdorf 02 Jul 2007 13:32

Why do you not create a "private" site - only allowed for invited members ?

The forum should be hidden like the other pages of such site for all other not allowed ( and not signed in) users?

I have no experience in such issue…


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by Helmut_pdorf Helmut_pdorf , 02 Jul 2007 13:32
Re: Truly hidden forums
Linus Linus 25 Aug 2007 20:36

I, too, would like to have a forum hidden. I want the wiki pages visible (so I can't have a private wiki) but I think wiki members could discuss what they're doing more openly if the forum wasn't available to the whole world. Does anyone know how to do this?

by Linus Linus , 25 Aug 2007 20:36
Re: Truly hidden forums
Rasky Rasky 08 Jan 2008 02:54

Seconded. Alternatively, it might be easier to simply have an option to disable the "show hidden" button.

Last edited on 08 Jan 2008 02:54 by Rasky
by Rasky Rasky , 08 Jan 2008 02:54
Re: Truly hidden forums
Ashe Ashe 29 Oct 2007 00:53

It would be nice to have a forum group — just one group — for admin/moderator discussion, and not be generally viewable like the rest. Is there a way to set that up, because I'm not finding it either.

by Ashe Ashe , 29 Oct 2007 00:53
Re: Truly hidden forums
Craig Macomber Craig Macomber 29 Oct 2007 00:59

I agree. Currently this can be done my making another site for admin discussions.

There may be a way to make a truly hidden category in wikidot 2.0 because it will have (I heard it will have) extended permissions options.

I suggest posting the idea to the feature request area anyway though.

by Craig Macomber Craig Macomber , 29 Oct 2007 00:59
Re: Truly hidden forums
Racemoza Racemoza 26 Aug 2007 10:46

Some Idea of mine, not easy to use (o_0)

  • Forum can be use in one page, like wikipedia.
  • we can see [!--comment--] only in view sorce and edit button.
  • we can give permission, who can edit or view source.
  • Mix and Shake it, Good taste.
Last edited on 26 Aug 2007 11:03 by Racemoza
by Racemoza Racemoza , 26 Aug 2007 10:46
Re: Truly hidden forums
dj_squelch dj_squelch 18 Feb 2008 06:29

BUMP!

I dont see any changes to this as of yet. I think it's important to have a hidden place for Mods to discuss the goings on of a forum and having t switch pages to do it is a pain. If there is a way PLEASE TELL ME!

by dj_squelch dj_squelch , 18 Feb 2008 06:29
Re: Truly hidden forums
Craig Macomber Craig Macomber 18 Feb 2008 06:59

I agree. Currently this can be done my making another site for admin discussions.

There may be a way to make a truly hidden category in wikidot 2.0 because it will have (I heard it will have) extended permissions options.

I suggest posting the idea to the feature request area anyway though.

Still applies. No changes yet.

by Craig Macomber Craig Macomber , 18 Feb 2008 06:59
Re: Truly hidden forums
Helmut_pdorf Helmut_pdorf 18 Feb 2008 09:06

I do not understand why you do not create a duplicate of your wiki site as a "private" one, only allowed for your mods.
They can discuss anything hidden from the other visitors on the "parallel" mods-forum.
And the menu-link to this forum is a standard link as usual… it makes no difference in the usage!

It is not a real secret for most of our visitors, the admins of this community- site have their own little "hidden" forum on such a parallel wiki.


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by Helmut_pdorf Helmut_pdorf , 18 Feb 2008 09:06
Re: Truly hidden forums
Brunhilda Brunhilda 18 Sep 2008 11:30

I do not understand why you do not create a duplicate of your wiki site as a "private" one, only allowed for your mods.

I did that, because I really don't like the fact that our conversations are visible to the whole world, and tried to make my two members to use the forum of the private site, but it does not work. It is much easier to just click to the button "discuss" and to write. So, if I am unable to make maz TWO members to use private forum, I just can imagine that for others that have more members this would be simply mission impossible. :)

I just cannot understand what's the wishes feature for if the wishes that have one or two votes are fulfilled in a very short time, and the wishes that have much higher number of votes (like this one - 38 for now) and people are desparate to have it are simply ignored?


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Last edited on 18 Sep 2008 11:31 by Brunhilda
by Brunhilda Brunhilda , 18 Sep 2008 11:30
Re: Truly hidden forums

If you were to have a link to another site, however, how would you make a link so that only moderators and admins get that link, and normal members get one to their website?

by Lt Commander Chris Lt Commander Chris , 09 Mar 2008 13:19
Re: Truly hidden forums
Helmut_pdorf Helmut_pdorf 10 Mar 2008 08:08

What you mena is a "actual selected and changed " link for specific members…I see no possibility for this in wikidot without a lot of work to do.

Easiest way is to show two links in the side menu :

one for "forum-public" ( or only "forum" )
and
one for "forum-privat".

The members know very fast that there is a parallel forum for the mods and admns only… why you want to hide the link ?


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by Helmut_pdorf Helmut_pdorf , 10 Mar 2008 08:08
Re: Truly hidden forums

I'd like the option to have the option of password protecting subforums, not viewable/postable without permission of some sort. If not a password, then a custom permissions set, so you can pick and choose members to allow to view and post inside it without changing their overall status.

One application is for gaming clans, who typically have some subforms open to the public, and others hidden from view. Even registered members can't get in without permission of some sort. Even among the membership, not everyone would be allowed in every forum, so some members can only view the clan forum for one game that they've qualified to compete in, and others another forum. For a clan like that to use wikidot, they'd have to have several different private wikis spreading across several different games.

Obviously admin, mod collaboration has been mentioned, but even in those cases, you might want to bring a member into a particular collaborative effort without modding them.

Yes, I CAN create a separate private wiki. This would still be a nice feature.

by David Marseilles David Marseilles , 11 Jun 2008 00:52
Re: Truly hidden forums
bartidge bartidge 24 Jun 2008 14:24

Creating a private separate parallel site for select users, while an option, is not a very good workaround.

The best solution is an administrator function to create user subgroups and an ability to apply subgroup-only view settings to certain topics…

This is what what many full-featured forum platforms do… Like Invision Power Board, for example…

I don't think wikidot forum needs a lot of the full features that these power forum platforms have…

…But it should have this one…

by bartidge bartidge , 24 Jun 2008 14:24
Re: Truly hidden forums

If you haven't already, view this topic in the Wishlist and vote it up.

by David Marseilles David Marseilles , 24 Jun 2008 17:04
Re: Truly hidden forums
bartidge bartidge 26 Jun 2008 21:25

Poyfect…

Looks like it's # 2 in the queue…

Thx.

by bartidge bartidge , 26 Jun 2008 21:25
Hidden problem
Dante123 Dante123 05 Aug 2008 02:39

Sorry guys, Don't even know if this is that relevent but i still need to ask a question… i loged intp a server but pig stick and pounce were turned off, but in any other server thay wouldnt work, even the toutorial? the settings are set deffinatly? any advice? and yes i have the beta4 version ^^

by Dante123 Dante123 , 05 Aug 2008 02:39
Re: Hidden problem

@Dante, This is the community site made for discussion of wikidot itself. You appear to have stumbled away from the wiki you were participating in. Thus, (probably) no one here knows what any of that means. If you have a bookmark, use that to get back to the game wiki you found and ask them. They should be able to help you.

@ wikidoters, The above is probably an example of how One-Step registration would help everyone, including new wiki members. He joined today, ended up on the main wiki site after joining, didn't realize he needed to hit back on his browser however many times, followed the community forum link thinking he was still on whatever game wiki he had found, and well, how he made in this particular thread is beyond my soothseeing ways, but nevertheless, here he made it. But he hasn't managed to actually join the wiki he apparently tried to join in the first place.

That's not even the worst case scenario. The worst case is people getting completely lost, never making it back to your wiki, and giving up to go someplace that isn't so complicated to navigate. Most the people here on the community forums didn't have trouble with it, but the average internet user does.

So if you haven't rated up the One-Step registration solution, please consider doing so now.

by David Marseilles David Marseilles , 05 Aug 2008 03:33
Re: Hidden problem
Helmut_pdorf Helmut_pdorf 05 Aug 2008 07:05

How were you invited to a wikidot site to be a member? by Mail ? Than you should go back to your mail and click on the link …

The difference to the first time is now: your are a registered member of Wikidot and need now only to make login to the wikidot com server (not register again).

In this case you will not leave the visited wiki-site.


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by Helmut_pdorf Helmut_pdorf , 05 Aug 2008 07:05
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