Jack,

You write below:

Patrick Durusau and I tackled the "who gets to decide" issue in an

Ontolog conference call [1] in which we argued for a mapping approach

that implies that virtually all choices are available, the final

decision being left up to the user's particular needs.

That is a great goal - preserving all the possible options for the final fitting of the ontology to the application.

How do you document the options so that the final fitter understands the available choices? Given the open approach and its clear advantages over a one-size-fits-all ontology, a secondary issue is managing the spectrum of choices among multiple component ontologies.

One approach I've seen to that issue for software components is the visual component library (VCL) originally from Borland, which comes with a moderately documented help file system. A more productive approach would be to match the application requirements and design statements to a suite of components using automated means, a kind of ontology CAD system that helps the user configure practical ontology components into operational application prototypes very quickly. That makes a short generate-and-evaluate cycle, leading to effectively leveraging the components while still in conceptual design. Clearly that is a useful secondary issue for ontologies as well.

How do you forsee configuring of component ontologies into applications?

-Rich

Sincerely,

Rich Cooper

EnglishLogicKernel.com

Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com

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-----Original Message-----
From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jack Park
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:06 PM
To: [ontolog-forum]
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Relating and Reconciling Ontologies

To Ron's "just not possible", I would argue "nothin's impossible" but

rather, highly unlikely.

Patrick Durusau and I tackled the "who gets to decide" issue in an

Ontolog conference call [1] in which we argued for a mapping approach

that implies that virtually all choices are available, the final

decision being left up to the user's particular needs.

Jack

[1] http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_04_27

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Ron Wheeler

<rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 21/04/2011 1:36 PM, AzamatAbdoullaev wrote:

<snip>

>> Given that, I am convinced that to obtain the General Semantic

>> Interoperability standard, costing hundreds billions per year, means to

>> develop a single world reference model, in the first place.

>> Azamat Abdoullaev

> Just not possible. Who gets to decide? There are too many stakeholders.

> Each stakeholder will have trouble giving up a view of the universe that

> has served their organization for years in order to fix someone else's

> problem with this view.

> We have survived an Imperial vs Metric world for 2 centuries with being

> able to agree on something so clear cut.

> We just make the conversions when we need to and the rest of the time we

> pick one.

> In Canada, we measure in metric but the frequently result is something

> that makes sense in inches (plywood comes in the metric equivalent of

> 4x8 feet sheets and no one has any idea about how big that is in metric).

>

> I have no expectation that the US Justice Department and the US

> Treasury are ever going to agree on some definitions of financial

> transactions.

> The hierarchy of objects will probably never match and will be a problem

> for the people who have to define the interoperability rules for

> companies who need to take their own internal view of the universe and

> provide views for the external agencies that fit their hierarchies.

> Try telling the EU or the Chinese that they have adopt the US Treasury's

> view of the financial world.

>

> Ron

><snip>

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