Pat and Alexander:

Here is what makes you both happy,http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/universe%20of%20discourse:

:an inclusive class of entities that is tacitly implied or explicitly delineated as the subject of a statement, discourse, or theory

And here is the first sense of the universe of discourse i suggested:

1. "universe or domain", the object of study, also subject matter, content, matter, or reference class, the set of all entities to be assumed or described, as ontological universe, mathematical universes, physical universes, social domains or technological domains.

If we are arguing here just to argue, that's fine, for we learn to reason by reasoning. But the Forum dedicated itself to some high cause and activity, which seems increasingly drenching by offhand debates.

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From:Pat Hayes

To:[ontolog-forum]

Sent:Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:52 PM

Subject:Re: [ontolog-forum] Is there something I missed?

On Feb 5, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Александр Шкотин wrote:

[Az]

Re. the universe of discourse, the point is not giving a comprehesive definition, but to emphasize that this hybrid construct has two faces: "universe" and "discourse." This semantic duality is the source of confusion even for experienced minds. But if you view the issue as simple, make your contribution, try and extend the Wikipedia article:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe_of_discourse. Good luck.

<Al> actually I am happy with this onehttp://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/universe%20of%20discourse

Me too.

Look at the Date: 1881. It is clear that Wikipedian should cite the inventor.

Probably Charles Saunders Pierce, given the date and the fact that whoever wrote it was writing in English rather than German. Also the choice of the word "discourse" has a Piercian ring to it.

BTW, Googling "domain of discourse" and C. S. Pierce located this gem:

www.socialscience.t-mobile.hu/vol2_pietarinen.pdf

which all the SWeb-bashers out there should read :-)

Pat

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