Skin talk:Timeless

I really like the Timeless skin. It's simple and elegant.

I also like that categories display in the right column. Is there a way to similarly put the TOC into the left column and possibly replace the Tools section, at least for users not logged in? 99+% users will not be logged in and not be editing using my wiki. They don't need a Tools section at all, but having the TOC being displayed instead would be really nice. The vector-2022 skin does it and I think it's a great feature.

Thanks for reading. Ohei2 (talk) 08:42, 8 April 2025 (UTC) Reply

I removed the tools section on https://roter-kreis.de/ (uses Timeless as well) for anonymous users using CSS. This is not an elegant solution, but it works just fine. Redundant-decadence (talk) 09:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC) Reply

Thanks, it's just a neat enough hack to do it.

I have put the following into MediaWiki:Common.css as per your suggestion:

#site-tools.sidebar-chunk { display: none; }

Additionally I have undone this for sysops by adding the following to MediaWiki:Group-sysop.css:

#site-tools.sidebar-chunk { display: block; }

This works fine as far as the wiki tools section is concerned, but from what I have found on the net so far I am afraid the TOC issue is much more complicated. I am now thinking of either displaying the top 5 viewed pages in the right column which should be relatively easy to achieve with some javascripting, or just putting a static list of suggested articles there.

Ohei2 (talk) 18:00, 8 April 2025 (UTC) Reply

Hello there, I actually came here with exactly the same request regarding the TOC. This skin is growing on me, but the one thing I really miss from Vector 2022 is the TOC following along as I scroll down the article. Any advice about how to (try to) do that would be very welcome. Choucas0 (talk) 18:34, 16 April 2025 (UTC) Reply

The timeless concept i do support because vector skin 2022 without account still is way to small for a mobile user but there is an issue i noticed the alerts and notices icons are way to cluttered so please add spacing Depotadore (talk) 05:21, 19 April 2025 (UTC) Reply

== Is Table of Content (TOC) Default set to Closed?

I just started using MediaWiki for free on Miraheze.org.

Yesterday, I changed to the Timeless skin and I really like it, but I want to have the default set to OPEN in the TOC. I asked around and there were some suggestions regarding making changes to the MediaWiki:Common.js. I tried both suggestions and neither worked for me.

The first suggested change was: $(document).ready(function() {

 var $tocToggleCheckbox = $('#toctogglecheckbox');
 if ($tocToggleCheckbox.length) {
 $tocToggleCheckbox.prop('checked', false).trigger('change');
 }

});

The second suggested change was:

 mw.hook('wikipage.content').add(function($content) {
 var $toc = $content.find('#toc');
 if ($toc.length) {
 var $tocToggleCheckbox = $toc.find('#toctogglecheckbox');
 if ($tocToggleCheckbox.length) {
 $tocToggleCheckbox.prop('checked', false).trigger('change');
 }
 }

});

Any suggestions?

User:Qi-Feng (talk) 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Title self-explanatory. I really like the Timeless interface, and I think it would look alot better if it was available in dark mode. I wonder if it could be possible to have the Timeless appearance, aswell as the others besides Vector Legacy, should get a dark mode aswell. 2001:B07:646D:661:6D54:C6F5:FB68:D61F 17:11, 12 June 2025 (UTC) Reply

Dark mode is currently a beta feature, many things need to be updated for it to work seamlessly. I also support having dark mode support in Timeless, but at this point I think it should happen later rather than sooner ­– the feature should be polished out in (staff-developed) Vector 2022 and Minerva, and should arrive in (volunteer-developed) Timeless only after that, to avoid wasting time, should foundations of the feature need to be changed. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 10:37, 15 June 2025 (UTC) Reply

On screen widths between 850 and 110 pixels, the top menus are overflowing - see screenshot. Normally all the dropdown menus would be above the thick line. This seems to have only broken in the last day or two. Ox Melissa (talk) 08:49, 28 August 2025 (UTC) Reply

I wish I could give more detail but figuring out what exactly is happening here is a bit beyond my skill level. There is a template on Wikidata d:Template:Statement+ that creates a mock-up of the Wikibase UI for data items that Timeless seems to handle weirdly. Every other skin (Vector 2022, Vector 2010, Minerva, and Monobook) displays this template's output as expected, but with Timeless the widths aren't right and there's gaps between parts of the table that aren't there in other skins (or in the Wikibase UI that's being mocked up, naturally). The weirdest part, which I hope may give some insight into what may be happening, is that for a second right when the content is first loading in I can see it rendered correctly, but then something else seems to load that screws up the style.

• Screenshots
• A template I made for my user page, d:User:Kinsio/UserPageItem, showing Timeless's improper rendering of the statement mock-up template.
  A template I made for my user page, d:User:Kinsio/UserPageItem, showing Timeless's improper rendering of the statement mock-up template.
• The same page with the Vector 2010 skin, rendering as expected, for comparison.
  The same page with the Vector 2010 skin, rendering as expected, for comparison.

And in case it's helpful: the main actual content of the template is in d:Template:Statement+/Value and the TemplateStyles CSS it uses is in d:Template:Statement+/styles.css. Kinsio (talk) 02:45, 14 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

@Kinsio: It looks fine to me. Is it broken for you in safe mode as well? If not, the breakage is probably caused by a gadget or user script you’ve enabled. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 20:00, 18 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

@Tacsipacsi: (削除) Hmm, I do think you're onto something, because that does fix the widths all being wrong (I wonder which user script is causing that, then...), But (削除ここまで) Actually, that was only on mobile; on desktop the width problem is there too, and... the gaps between table cells and lack of border around the table are still there, and that appearance is still "popping in" after a slight delay with the expected appearance showing up for a split second beforehand. Kinsio (talk) 15:09, 19 July 2026 (UTC) Reply