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From: <hu...@ya...> - 2007年10月26日 16:53:23
I tried to change the value and the highest one I can use is 2 so it's not =
a=20
big improvement for what I understand.
You can contact me if you need other test naturally
N.
Le Friday 26 October 2007 12:24:34 Michael Droettboom, vous avez =C3=A9crit=
=C2=A0:
> It's great to have narrowed this down! Unfortunately, with that #define
> removed, you will get lower quality fonts (the hinting will be more
> extreme, which causes the glyphs to often look too thin, or
> inconsistent.) See this thread for more information --
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/mat...@li.../msg014=
80
>.html
>
> I'd hate to turn off this improvement because it doesn't work in some
> environments.
>
> I wonder if you wouldn't mind performing one more experiment... There
> is another define at the top of ft2font.cpp, "HORIZ_HINTING" that
> controls the amount of hinting subsampling. Currently it is set to 8,
> but I wonder if a lower value would work. Ideally, we want to set this
> as high as we can get away with.
>
> #define VERTICAL_HINTING
> #ifdef VERTICAL_HINTING
> #define HORIZ_HINTING 8
> #else
> #define HORIZ_HINTING 1
> #endif
>
> Would you mind trying other values and seeing if any work? If not, I'll
> probably take this question to the freetype mailing list now that we've
> narrowed the cause down to only a three line difference in the code.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
> hu...@ya... wrote:
> > Le Friday 26 October 2007 11:22:06, vous avez =C3=A9crit :
> >> Thanks for this information. It looks like the font outline data is
> >> somehow getting corrupted before freetype renders it. Again, however,=
 I
> >> can't reproduce it on my machine (I've attached a copy of what it looks
> >> like for me), so I'm still pretty stumped. My suspicion is that it's a
> >> 64-bit vs. 32-bit problem since both people known to have trouble are =
on
> >> 64-bit platforms, and I am not. I have tried recompiling with gcc-4.2=
=2E2
> >> and I still wasn't able to reproduce.
> >
> > I can imagine that it's difficult for you to debug something you cannot
> > reproduce. Just a remark I don't have 64-bits but a 32 so the problem is
> > not comming because of the plateforme.
> >
> >> One thing you could *try*, to rule out any recent changes to the glyph
> >> rendering, is to comment out this line near the top of src/ft2font.cpp:
> >>
> >> #define VERTICAL_HINTING
> >>
> >> as follows
> >>
> >> //#define VERTICAL_HINTING
> >
> > Yes it's doing the trick., I don't have anymore the problem. Thank you
> > very much. I have now the same result than you with the test I produce
> > before.
> >
> >> Additional information: Are there any warnings produced when compiling
> >> ft2font.cpp? Can you send me your matplotlibrc file?
> >
> > just the classic one:
> >
> > cc1plus: warning: command line option "-Wstrict-prototypes" is valid for
> > Ada/C/ObjC but not for C++
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
> > N.
> >
> >> Cheers,
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> hu...@ya... wrote:
> >>> Yep that can be a good idea. I don't know anything on how mathtext is
> >>> working but I'm not completely sure that the problem is with freetype
> >>> because sometime that can work. In reality every character I tested
> >>> worked but you have to put in a certain order. To understand a little
> >>> bit more what I try to say (very badly) see the script join and the
> >>> figure.
> >>>
> >>> I hope that can help a little bit to try to find the reason of this
> >>> behaviour.
> >>>
> >>> N
> >>>
> >>> Le Thursday 25 October 2007 15:41:40 Michael Droettboom, vous avez=20
=C3=A9crit :
> >>>> Darren Dale wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Mike,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 09:05:56 am Michael Droettboom wrote:
> >>>>>> Unfortunately, I can't reproduce this on my machine even with the
> >>>>>> latest stable version of freetype-2.5.3 (which is the same version
> >>>>>> in Ubuntu Gutsy).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think you mean freetype-2.3.5. I also have that version installed,
> >>>>> although the mpl setup script is reporting 9.16.3.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes. freetype-2.3.5. There are arcane historical reasons I don't
> >>>> fully comprehend why the pkgconfig version doesn't match the release
> >>>> version (and why freetype2 is called freetype6 on Debian and
> >>>> derivatives)... but my numbers do match yours.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> The Ubuntu/Debian package of freetype has a lot of patches
> >>>>>> applied, and I don't know if they are causing this (but from the
> >>>>>> looks of them, I doubt it).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Can you set debug.verbose to "annoying" and send me the output of
> >>>>>> your matplotlib run? I want to rule out any font-loading problems.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's attached. I'm running 64bit gentoo, everything compiled with
> >>>>> gcc-4.2.2, in case its relevent.
> >>>>
> >>>> Always good to have more details, but I'm sort of at a loss on this
> >>>> one, especially since I can't reproduce it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe we need to take a poll on this list of who is working and who
> >>>> isn't to see what the source of the breakage may be...
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------=
=2D-
> >>>>--
From: Michael D. <md...@st...> - 2007年10月26日 16:25:13
It's great to have narrowed this down! Unfortunately, with that #define 
removed, you will get lower quality fonts (the hinting will be more 
extreme, which causes the glyphs to often look too thin, or 
inconsistent.) See this thread for more information --
http://www.mail-archive.com/mat...@li.../msg01480.html
I'd hate to turn off this improvement because it doesn't work in some 
environments.
I wonder if you wouldn't mind performing one more experiment... There 
is another define at the top of ft2font.cpp, "HORIZ_HINTING" that 
controls the amount of hinting subsampling. Currently it is set to 8, 
but I wonder if a lower value would work. Ideally, we want to set this 
as high as we can get away with.
#define VERTICAL_HINTING
#ifdef VERTICAL_HINTING
#define HORIZ_HINTING 8
#else
#define HORIZ_HINTING 1
#endif
Would you mind trying other values and seeing if any work? If not, I'll 
probably take this question to the freetype mailing list now that we've 
narrowed the cause down to only a three line difference in the code.
Cheers,
Mike
hu...@ya... wrote:
> Le Friday 26 October 2007 11:22:06, vous avez écrit :
>> Thanks for this information. It looks like the font outline data is
>> somehow getting corrupted before freetype renders it. Again, however, I
>> can't reproduce it on my machine (I've attached a copy of what it looks
>> like for me), so I'm still pretty stumped. My suspicion is that it's a
>> 64-bit vs. 32-bit problem since both people known to have trouble are on
>> 64-bit platforms, and I am not. I have tried recompiling with gcc-4.2.2
>> and I still wasn't able to reproduce.
> 
> I can imagine that it's difficult for you to debug something you cannot 
> reproduce. Just a remark I don't have 64-bits but a 32 so the problem is not 
> comming because of the plateforme.
> 
>> One thing you could *try*, to rule out any recent changes to the glyph
>> rendering, is to comment out this line near the top of src/ft2font.cpp:
>>
>> #define VERTICAL_HINTING
>>
>> as follows
>>
>> //#define VERTICAL_HINTING
> 
> Yes it's doing the trick., I don't have anymore the problem. Thank you very 
> much. I have now the same result than you with the test I produce before.
> 
>> Additional information: Are there any warnings produced when compiling
>> ft2font.cpp? Can you send me your matplotlibrc file?
> 
> just the classic one:
> 
> cc1plus: warning: command line option "-Wstrict-prototypes" is valid for 
> Ada/C/ObjC but not for C++
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> N.
> 
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>>
>> hu...@ya... wrote:
>>> Yep that can be a good idea. I don't know anything on how mathtext is
>>> working but I'm not completely sure that the problem is with freetype
>>> because sometime that can work. In reality every character I tested
>>> worked but you have to put in a certain order. To understand a little bit
>>> more what I try to say (very badly) see the script join and the figure.
>>>
>>> I hope that can help a little bit to try to find the reason of this
>>> behaviour.
>>>
>>> N
>>>
>>> Le Thursday 25 October 2007 15:41:40 Michael Droettboom, vous avez écrit :
>>>> Darren Dale wrote:
>>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 09:05:56 am Michael Droettboom wrote:
>>>>>> Unfortunately, I can't reproduce this on my machine even with the
>>>>>> latest stable version of freetype-2.5.3 (which is the same version in
>>>>>> Ubuntu Gutsy).
>>>>> I think you mean freetype-2.3.5. I also have that version installed,
>>>>> although the mpl setup script is reporting 9.16.3.
>>>> Yes. freetype-2.3.5. There are arcane historical reasons I don't fully
>>>> comprehend why the pkgconfig version doesn't match the release version
>>>> (and why freetype2 is called freetype6 on Debian and derivatives)...
>>>> but my numbers do match yours.
>>>>
>>>>>> The Ubuntu/Debian package of freetype has a lot of patches
>>>>>> applied, and I don't know if they are causing this (but from the looks
>>>>>> of them, I doubt it).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you set debug.verbose to "annoying" and send me the output of your
>>>>>> matplotlib run? I want to rule out any font-loading problems.
>>>>> It's attached. I'm running 64bit gentoo, everything compiled with
>>>>> gcc-4.2.2, in case its relevent.
>>>> Always good to have more details, but I'm sort of at a loss on this one,
>>>> especially since I can't reproduce it.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we need to take a poll on this list of who is working and who
>>>> isn't to see what the source of the breakage may be...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
-- 
Michael Droettboom
Science Software Branch
Operations and Engineering Division
Space Telescope Science Institute
Operated by AURA for NASA
From: <hu...@ya...> - 2007年10月26日 16:03:05
Attachments: matplotlibrc
Le Friday 26 October 2007 11:22:06, vous avez =E9crit=A0:
> Thanks for this information. It looks like the font outline data is
> somehow getting corrupted before freetype renders it. Again, however, I
> can't reproduce it on my machine (I've attached a copy of what it looks
> like for me), so I'm still pretty stumped. My suspicion is that it's a
> 64-bit vs. 32-bit problem since both people known to have trouble are on
> 64-bit platforms, and I am not. I have tried recompiling with gcc-4.2.2
> and I still wasn't able to reproduce.
I can imagine that it's difficult for you to debug something you cannot=20
reproduce. Just a remark I don't have 64-bits but a 32 so the problem is no=
t=20
comming because of the plateforme.
> One thing you could *try*, to rule out any recent changes to the glyph
> rendering, is to comment out this line near the top of src/ft2font.cpp:
>
> #define VERTICAL_HINTING
>
> as follows
>
> //#define VERTICAL_HINTING
Yes it's doing the trick., I don't have anymore the problem. Thank you very=
=20
much. I have now the same result than you with the test I produce before.
> Additional information: Are there any warnings produced when compiling
> ft2font.cpp? Can you send me your matplotlibrc file?
just the classic one:
cc1plus: warning: command line option "-Wstrict-prototypes" is valid for=20
Ada/C/ObjC but not for C++
Thank you very much.
N.
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
> hu...@ya... wrote:
> > Yep that can be a good idea. I don't know anything on how mathtext is
> > working but I'm not completely sure that the problem is with freetype
> > because sometime that can work. In reality every character I tested
> > worked but you have to put in a certain order. To understand a little b=
it
> > more what I try to say (very badly) see the script join and the figure.
> >
> > I hope that can help a little bit to try to find the reason of this
> > behaviour.
> >
> > N
> >
> > Le Thursday 25 October 2007 15:41:40 Michael Droettboom, vous avez =E9c=
rit :
> >> Darren Dale wrote:
> >>> Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 09:05:56 am Michael Droettboom wrote:
> >>>> Unfortunately, I can't reproduce this on my machine even with the
> >>>> latest stable version of freetype-2.5.3 (which is the same version in
> >>>> Ubuntu Gutsy).
> >>>
> >>> I think you mean freetype-2.3.5. I also have that version installed,
> >>> although the mpl setup script is reporting 9.16.3.
> >>
> >> Yes. freetype-2.3.5. There are arcane historical reasons I don't ful=
ly
> >> comprehend why the pkgconfig version doesn't match the release version
> >> (and why freetype2 is called freetype6 on Debian and derivatives)...
> >> but my numbers do match yours.
> >>
> >>>> The Ubuntu/Debian package of freetype has a lot of patches
> >>>> applied, and I don't know if they are causing this (but from the loo=
ks
> >>>> of them, I doubt it).
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you set debug.verbose to "annoying" and send me the output of yo=
ur
> >>>> matplotlib run? I want to rule out any font-loading problems.
> >>>
> >>> It's attached. I'm running 64bit gentoo, everything compiled with
> >>> gcc-4.2.2, in case its relevent.
> >>
> >> Always good to have more details, but I'm sort of at a loss on this on=
e,
> >> especially since I can't reproduce it.
> >>
> >> Maybe we need to take a poll on this list of who is working and who
> >> isn't to see what the source of the breakage may be...
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------=
=2D-
From: Michael D. <md...@st...> - 2007年10月26日 15:55:32
More information -- I just compiled matplotlib on a communal RHEL4 
64-bit installation, and I still can not reproduce this bug there.
The plot thickens...
Cheers,
Mike
Michael Droettboom wrote:
> Thanks for this information. It looks like the font outline data is 
> somehow getting corrupted before freetype renders it. Again, however, I 
> can't reproduce it on my machine (I've attached a copy of what it looks 
> like for me), so I'm still pretty stumped. My suspicion is that it's a 
> 64-bit vs. 32-bit problem since both people known to have trouble are on 
> 64-bit platforms, and I am not. I have tried recompiling with gcc-4.2.2 
> and I still wasn't able to reproduce.
> 
> One thing you could *try*, to rule out any recent changes to the glyph 
> rendering, is to comment out this line near the top of src/ft2font.cpp:
> 
> #define VERTICAL_HINTING
> 
> as follows
> 
> //#define VERTICAL_HINTING
> 
> Additional information: Are there any warnings produced when compiling 
> ft2font.cpp? Can you send me your matplotlibrc file?
> 
> Cheers,
> Mike
> 
> hu...@ya... wrote:
>> Yep that can be a good idea. I don't know anything on how mathtext is 
>> working but I'm not completely sure that the problem is with freetype 
>> because sometime that can work. In reality every character I tested 
>> worked but you have to put in a certain order. To understand a little 
>> bit more what I try to say (very badly) see the script join and the 
>> figure. 
>> I hope that can help a little bit to try to find the reason of this 
>> behaviour.
>>
>> N
>>
>> Le Thursday 25 October 2007 15:41:40 Michael Droettboom, vous avez 
>> écrit :
>>> Darren Dale wrote:
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 09:05:56 am Michael Droettboom wrote:
>>>>> Unfortunately, I can't reproduce this on my machine even with the 
>>>>> latest
>>>>> stable version of freetype-2.5.3 (which is the same version in Ubuntu
>>>>> Gutsy).
>>>> I think you mean freetype-2.3.5. I also have that version installed,
>>>> although the mpl setup script is reporting 9.16.3.
>>> Yes. freetype-2.3.5. There are arcane historical reasons I don't fully
>>> comprehend why the pkgconfig version doesn't match the release version
>>> (and why freetype2 is called freetype6 on Debian and derivatives)...
>>> but my numbers do match yours.
>>>
>>>>> The Ubuntu/Debian package of freetype has a lot of patches
>>>>> applied, and I don't know if they are causing this (but from the looks
>>>>> of them, I doubt it).
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you set debug.verbose to "annoying" and send me the output of your
>>>>> matplotlib run? I want to rule out any font-loading problems.
>>>> It's attached. I'm running 64bit gentoo, everything compiled with
>>>> gcc-4.2.2, in case its relevent.
>>> Always good to have more details, but I'm sort of at a loss on this one,
>>> especially since I can't reproduce it.
>>>
>>> Maybe we need to take a poll on this list of who is working and who
>>> isn't to see what the source of the breakage may be...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
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From: Michael D. <md...@st...> - 2007年10月26日 15:22:26
Attachments: test_mathtext.png
Thanks for this information. It looks like the font outline data is 
somehow getting corrupted before freetype renders it. Again, however, I 
can't reproduce it on my machine (I've attached a copy of what it looks 
like for me), so I'm still pretty stumped. My suspicion is that it's a 
64-bit vs. 32-bit problem since both people known to have trouble are on 
64-bit platforms, and I am not. I have tried recompiling with gcc-4.2.2 
and I still wasn't able to reproduce.
One thing you could *try*, to rule out any recent changes to the glyph 
rendering, is to comment out this line near the top of src/ft2font.cpp:
#define VERTICAL_HINTING
as follows
//#define VERTICAL_HINTING
Additional information: Are there any warnings produced when compiling 
ft2font.cpp? Can you send me your matplotlibrc file?
Cheers,
Mike
hu...@ya... wrote:
> Yep that can be a good idea. I don't know anything on how mathtext is working 
> but I'm not completely sure that the problem is with freetype because 
> sometime that can work. In reality every character I tested worked but you 
> have to put in a certain order. To understand a little bit more what I try to 
> say (very badly) see the script join and the figure. 
> 
> I hope that can help a little bit to try to find the reason of this behaviour.
> 
> N
> 
> Le Thursday 25 October 2007 15:41:40 Michael Droettboom, vous avez écrit :
>> Darren Dale wrote:
>>> Hi Mike,
>>>
>>> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 09:05:56 am Michael Droettboom wrote:
>>>> Unfortunately, I can't reproduce this on my machine even with the latest
>>>> stable version of freetype-2.5.3 (which is the same version in Ubuntu
>>>> Gutsy).
>>> I think you mean freetype-2.3.5. I also have that version installed,
>>> although the mpl setup script is reporting 9.16.3.
>> Yes. freetype-2.3.5. There are arcane historical reasons I don't fully
>> comprehend why the pkgconfig version doesn't match the release version
>> (and why freetype2 is called freetype6 on Debian and derivatives)...
>> but my numbers do match yours.
>>
>>>> The Ubuntu/Debian package of freetype has a lot of patches
>>>> applied, and I don't know if they are causing this (but from the looks
>>>> of them, I doubt it).
>>>>
>>>> Can you set debug.verbose to "annoying" and send me the output of your
>>>> matplotlib run? I want to rule out any font-loading problems.
>>> It's attached. I'm running 64bit gentoo, everything compiled with
>>> gcc-4.2.2, in case its relevent.
>> Always good to have more details, but I'm sort of at a loss on this one,
>> especially since I can't reproduce it.
>>
>> Maybe we need to take a poll on this list of who is working and who
>> isn't to see what the source of the breakage may be...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mike
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
-- 
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From: sunzen w. <su...@gm...> - 2007年10月26日 07:22:50
Hi Gurus,
 (I'm sorry for sending the above unfinished one)
 I'm new to matplotlib programming, and get puzzled about designing
picking handler for broken_barh by the OO interface.
 Could you give me any guidance? Any your help will be appreciated.
<P.S.>
My current approach is presented as the following:
1. plot broken_barh and set picker
 pcol = axes.broken_barh(xseq, yseq, facecolors = colors)
 pcol.set_picker(True)
2. Design picking handler
 mycanvas.mpl_connect('pick_event', foo_pick)
 .....
 def foo_pick(self, event):
 if isinstance(event.artist, BrokenBarHCollection):
 ....
But it doesn't work as expected, and the following error message are
printed.
~~~~~~
verts N=2, Nverts=2 [[(Decimal("1184851021.054456271"), 0.5),
(Decimal("1184851021.054456271"), 1.5),
(Decimal("1184851021.280959577"), 1.5),
(Decimal("1184851021.280959577"), 0.5)],
[(Decimal("1184851021.280959577"), 0.5),
(Decimal("1184851021.280959577"), 1.5),
(Decimal("1184851024.851673542"), 1.5),
(Decimal("1184851024.851673542"), 0.5)]]
offsets; Noffsets=0
i%Nverts=0
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File
"/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/backends/backend_gtk.py",
line 146, in button_press_event
 FigureCanvasBase.button_press_event(self, x, y, event.button)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/backend_bases.py", line
914, in button_press_event
 self.figure.pick(mouseevent)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/figure.py", line 176, in
pick
 a.pick(mouseevent)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/axes.py", line 1763, in
pick
 a.pick(mouseevent)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/collections.py",
line 155, in pick
 for i, thispoly in
enumerate(self.get_transformed_patches()):
 File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/matplotlib/collections.py", line
188, in get_transformed_patches
 if any(isnan(polyverts)):
TypeError: function not supported for these types, and can't coerce safely
to supported types
~~~~~~
My machine environment is:
fedora 7; python-2.5; matplotlib 0.90
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sunzen
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From: sunzen w. <su...@gm...> - 2007年10月26日 07:08:19
Hi Gurus,
 I'm new to matplotlib programming, and get puzzled about designing
picking handler for broken_barh by the OO interface.
My current approach is presented as the following:
1. plot broken_barh and set picker
 pcol = axes.broken_barh(xseq, yseq, facecolors = colors)
 pcol.set_picker(True)
2. Design picking handler
 mycanvas.mpl_connect('pick_event', foo_pick)
 .....
 def foo_pick(self, event):
Could you give me any guidance?
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sunzen
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From: Joseph P. <jp...@is...> - 2007年10月26日 01:52:10
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<font face="Times New Roman">spectral density is by convention a 1Hz
binwidth, not an arbitrary one, units of A^2/Hz.<br>
<br>
perhaps if you manually compute the spectral density of a sine wave,
you will easily see<br>
that they don't have infinite power, R is the autocorrelation of the
Asin(wt):<br>
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<font face="Times New Roman"><br>
Back to the original question:<br>
<br>
Is there evidence that the matplotlib PSD spectral amplitudes are
accurate?<br>
say by comparison with Matlab results, or a synthetic signal as in the
example, or <br>
from considerations of basic DSP as in the references?<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bre...@un...">bre...@un...</a> wrote:
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 <font face="sans-serif" size="2">There is certainly differences
(usually
of a factor of PI) in the various definitions used for PSDs, but a
simple
sign wave has an infinite power density at the sine wave frequency.
&nbsp;Are
we agreed on that?</font>
 <br>
 <br>
 <font face="sans-serif" size="2">Use of windowing will modify this
comment
somewhat (so it probably won't really go to infinity) but the basic
fact
remains. &nbsp;The units of a PSD are amp^2/Hz. &nbsp;The MS of a signal
between two frequencies should equal the area under the PSD between
those
frequencies (with allowance for different definitions/factors of PI).
&nbsp;As
I said, for a sign wave the frequency band can be made arbitrarily
small
about the sine wave frequency, but the power between these bands
remains
constant. &nbsp;Therefore the PSD goes to infinity. &nbsp;Otherwise it
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suggestion
that the matplotlib algorithm is correct in computing PSD amplitudes?<br>
 <br>
btw, increasing nFFT increases the number of points used in the FFT,
which
 <br>
increases the spectral <b>frequency</b> resolution (smaller binwidth)
but
for a limited data set<br>
of N points, as is the case in the example, decreases the number of
data
averages <br>
thereby decreasing the spectral <b>amplitude</b> resolution
(accuracy).
keep in mind that<br>
just changing nFFT without making a corresponding change in overlap
will
oversample<br>
the data, thereby skewing the amplitudes. <br>
 <br>
in any case, the amplitude change is not approaching infinity, even if
you set nFFT to<br>
6000, which is the length of the timeseries, the amplitudes are ~35dB,
adjust variable ymax<br>
to see this. <br>
 <br>
to review issues of spectral/amplitude resolution, windowing/overlap,
etc,
a good<br>
reference is Random Data by Bendat &nbsp;&amp;Piersol:</font><font
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except ImportError: <br>
&nbsp;print "Failed to import numpy."<br>
&nbsp;<br>
try:<br>
&nbsp;import pylab as mp &nbsp;# matplotlib.sourceforge.net<br>
&nbsp;from matplotlib.font_manager import fontManager, FontProperties
 <br>
except ImportError: <br>
&nbsp;print "Failed to import pylab."<br>
&nbsp;<br>
 <br>
# Default Parameters<br>
nFFT &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;= 1024 <br>
overlap &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = 512 &nbsp;<br>
freqSample &nbsp; &nbsp;= 100. <br>
PlotAll &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = False<br>
WriteOutput &nbsp; = False<br>
 <br>
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
## Main module<br>
def main():<br>
 <br>
&nbsp;deltaF = freqSample/nFFT # Frequency resolution in Hz<br>
&nbsp;deltaT = 1./freqSample &nbsp; # Sample interval<br>
&nbsp;print 'Sample interval %e (s)' &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; % (deltaT)<br>
&nbsp;print 'Frequency resolution %e (Hz)' % (deltaF)<br>
 <br>
&nbsp;# Setup Plots<br>
&nbsp;#
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&nbsp;mp.figure(1)<br>
&nbsp;mp.title ( "PSD" )<br>
&nbsp;mp.ylabel( "(dB)" )<br>
&nbsp;mp.xlabel( "Frequency (Hz)" )<br>
&nbsp;legendFont = FontProperties(size='small')<br>
 <br>
&nbsp;ymin = 0<br>
&nbsp;ymax = 30<br>
&nbsp;xmin = 0<br>
&nbsp;xmax = 50<br>
&nbsp;xticks = 5<br>
&nbsp;yticks = 5<br>
 <br>
&nbsp;if PlotAll:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.figure(2)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.title ( "Input Timeseries" )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.ylabel( "Amplitude" )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.xlabel( "time (s)" )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp;# Create some synthetic data with unity RMS amplitude = 0 dB<br>
&nbsp;#
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&nbsp;t = mp.arange(0., 60., deltaT) # 60 seconds at deltaT interval<br>
&nbsp;A = 1.414<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;y0 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 5 &nbsp;* t )<br>
&nbsp;y1 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 10 * t )<br>
&nbsp;y2 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 20 * t )<br>
&nbsp;y3 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 30 * t )<br>
&nbsp;y4 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 40 * t )<br>
&nbsp;y5 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 45 * t )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp;dataList = [ y0, y1, y2, y3, y4, y5 ]<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;for data in dataList:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;inputDataLen = len( data )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;numAverages &nbsp;= math.floor( inputDataLen / (overlap)
) - 1<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;normalizedRandomError = 1./math.sqrt( numAverages
)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;print "%d points" % ( inputDataLen ),<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;print "%d averages" % (numAverages),<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;print "normalized random error %.3f" % (
normalizedRandomError )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.figure(1)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;(Pxx, freqs) = mp.psd( data,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NFFT &nbsp; &nbsp; = nFFT,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fs &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = freqSample,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; noverlap = overlap,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; lw &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = 2,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; label &nbsp; &nbsp;= '' )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Pxx_dB = 10.*log10(Pxx)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;if PlotAll:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.figure(2)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.plot(t, data, label='' )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;# Write Output data<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;#
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;if WriteOutput:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;PxxLen = len(Pxx)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;OutputFile = "PSD.dat"<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fdOutFile = open( OutputFile, 'a' )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fdOutFile.write( "Freq\t\tPower(dB)\n"
)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;for i in range(PxxLen):<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fdOutFile.write( "%.4e\t%.3f\n"
% ( freqs[i], Pxx_dB[i] ) )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fdOutFile.close()<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;print "Wrote ", PxxLen, "
points to ", OutputFile<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
 <br>
&nbsp;# Show the Plot<br>
&nbsp;#
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&nbsp;mp.figure(1)<br>
&nbsp;mp.axis([xmin, xmax, ymin, ymax])<br>
&nbsp;mp.xticks( arange(xmin, xmax+1, xticks) )<br>
&nbsp;mp.yticks( arange(ymin, ymax &nbsp;, yticks) )<br>
&nbsp;mp.title('')<br>
&nbsp;mp.xlabel('Frequency (Hz)')<br>
&nbsp;mp.ylabel(r'$\tt{dB re V^2/Hz}$')<br>
&nbsp;#mp.legend( loc='upper right', prop=legendFont )<br>
&nbsp;if WriteOutput:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;plotFileName = "PSD.png"<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.savefig( plotFileName )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;print "Wrote png image to ", plotFileName<br>
&nbsp;if PlotAll:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.figure(2)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;#mp.legend( loc='lower left', prop=legendFont )<br>
&nbsp;mp.show()<br>
 <br>
&nbsp;print "Normal Exit"<br>
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##----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
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From: <bre...@un...> - 2007年10月26日 01:02:23
There is certainly differences (usually of a factor of PI) in the various 
definitions used for PSDs, but a simple sign wave has an infinite power 
density at the sine wave frequency. Are we agreed on that?
Use of windowing will modify this comment somewhat (so it probably won't 
really go to infinity) but the basic fact remains. The units of a PSD are 
amp^2/Hz. The MS of a signal between two frequencies should equal the 
area under the PSD between those frequencies (with allowance for different 
definitions/factors of PI). As I said, for a sign wave the frequency band 
can be made arbitrarily small about the sine wave frequency, but the power 
between these bands remains constant. Therefore the PSD goes to infinity. 
 Otherwise it isn't a density.
Joseph Park <jp...@is...> 
Sent by: mat...@li...
26/10/2007 10:49 AM
To
cc
mat...@li...
Subject
Re: [Matplotlib-users] PSD amplitudes
is the suggestion that the matplotlib algorithm is correct in computing 
PSD amplitudes?
btw, increasing nFFT increases the number of points used in the FFT, which 
increases the spectral frequency resolution (smaller binwidth) but for a 
limited data set
of N points, as is the case in the example, decreases the number of data 
averages 
thereby decreasing the spectral amplitude resolution (accuracy). keep in 
mind that
just changing nFFT without making a corresponding change in overlap will 
oversample
the data, thereby skewing the amplitudes. 
in any case, the amplitude change is not approaching infinity, even if you 
set nFFT to
6000, which is the length of the timeseries, the amplitudes are ~35dB, 
adjust variable ymax
to see this. 
to review issues of spectral/amplitude resolution, windowing/overlap, etc, 
a good
reference is Random Data by Bendat &Piersol:
http://www.amazon.com/Random-Data-Analysis-Measurement-Procedures/dp/0471317330
i remain unconvinced that the PSD amplitudes are reasonable, which only 
leaves Matlab
as an alternative... that's a hard pill to swallow... matplotlib is 
clearly preferable.
bre...@un... wrote: 
If you lower the resolution (ie increase nFFT) in your program you will 
see that the PSD does indeed increase. I think it may be on the way to 
infinity. 
Joseph Park <jp...@is...> 
Sent by: mat...@li... 
26/10/2007 10:05 AM 
To
mat...@li... 
cc
Subject
Re: [Matplotlib-users] PSD amplitudes
Shouldn't the PSD for a simple sine wave tend to infinity
the spectral resolution will impact the amplitude, if you
are not dealing with a density. by definition a spectral density
has applied the bandwidth resolution correction. the PSD amplitude
should correspond to the RMS amplitude of the sine wave. in the
example a 1VRMS amplitude sine wave (time domain) should have a
PSD power of 20*log(1V) = 0dB. The windowing function will impact
this ideal number a bit, but certainly not by 25dB.
bre...@un... wrote: 
Are you sure that the answer should be zero? Shouldn't the PSD for a 
simple sine wave tend to infinity (depending on the resolution)? 
Joseph Park <jp...@is...> 
Sent by: mat...@li... 
26/10/2007 06:50 AM 
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[Matplotlib-users] PSD amplitudes
Please try the attached script.
The answer should be ~0 dB for each of the frequencies.
Most likely a simple scaling issue/parameter of which i'm ignorant.
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## Name: psd_scale.py
## 
## Purpose: Test Power Spectral Density of 1Vrms data
## Depends on Python SciPy and NumPy
## 
## Author: J Park
##
## Created: 10/17/07
##
## Modified: 
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------
try:
 from numpy import * # www.numpy.org numpy.scipy.org
except ImportError: 
 print "Failed to import numpy."
 
try:
 import pylab as mp # matplotlib.sourceforge.net
 from matplotlib.font_manager import fontManager, FontProperties 
except ImportError: 
 print "Failed to import pylab."
 
# Default Parameters
nFFT = 1024 
overlap = 512 
freqSample = 100. 
PlotAll = False
WriteOutput = False
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------
## Main module
def main():
 deltaF = freqSample/nFFT # Frequency resolution in Hz
 deltaT = 1./freqSample # Sample interval
 print 'Sample interval %e (s)' % (deltaT)
 print 'Frequency resolution %e (Hz)' % (deltaF)
 # Setup Plots
 # ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 mp.figure(1)
 mp.title ( "PSD" )
 mp.ylabel( "(dB)" )
 mp.xlabel( "Frequency (Hz)" )
 legendFont = FontProperties(size='small')
 ymin = 0
 ymax = 30
 xmin = 0
 xmax = 50
 xticks = 5
 yticks = 5
 if PlotAll:
 mp.figure(2)
 mp.title ( "Input Timeseries" )
 mp.ylabel( "Amplitude" )
 mp.xlabel( "time (s)" )
 # Create some synthetic data with unity RMS amplitude = 0 dB
 # ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 t = mp.arange(0., 60., deltaT) # 60 seconds at deltaT interval
 A = 1.414
 
 y0 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 5 * t )
 y1 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 10 * t )
 y2 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 20 * t )
 y3 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 30 * t )
 y4 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 40 * t )
 y5 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 45 * t )
 dataList = [ y0, y1, y2, y3, y4, y5 ]
 
 for data in dataList:
 inputDataLen = len( data )
 numAverages = math.floor( inputDataLen / (overlap) ) - 1
 normalizedRandomError = 1./math.sqrt( numAverages )
 print "%d points" % ( inputDataLen ),
 print "%d averages" % (numAverages),
 print "normalized random error %.3f" % ( normalizedRandomError )
 mp.figure(1)
 (Pxx, freqs) = mp.psd( data,
 NFFT = nFFT,
 Fs = freqSample,
 noverlap = overlap,
 lw = 2,
 label = '' )
 Pxx_dB = 10.*log10(Pxx)
 
 if PlotAll:
 mp.figure(2)
 mp.plot(t, data, label='' )
 # Write Output data
 # 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 if WriteOutput:
 PxxLen = len(Pxx)
 OutputFile = "PSD.dat"
 fdOutFile = open( OutputFile, 'a' )
 fdOutFile.write( "Freq\t\tPower(dB)\n" )
 for i in range(PxxLen):
 fdOutFile.write( "%.4e\t%.3f\n" % ( freqs[i], Pxx_dB[i] ) )
 fdOutFile.close()
 print "Wrote ", PxxLen, " points to ", OutputFile
 
 # Show the Plot
 # ----------------------------------------------------------------------
 mp.figure(1)
 mp.axis([xmin, xmax, ymin, ymax])
 mp.xticks( arange(xmin, xmax+1, xticks) )
 mp.yticks( arange(ymin, ymax , yticks) )
 mp.title('')
 mp.xlabel('Frequency (Hz)')
 mp.ylabel(r'$\tt{dB re V^2/Hz}$')
 #mp.legend( loc='upper right', prop=legendFont )
 if WriteOutput:
 plotFileName = "PSD.png"
 mp.savefig( plotFileName )
 print "Wrote png image to ", plotFileName
 if PlotAll:
 mp.figure(2)
 #mp.legend( loc='lower left', prop=legendFont )
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 print "Normal Exit"
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<font face="Times New Roman">is the suggestion that the matplotlib
algorithm is correct in computing PSD amplitudes?<br>
<br>
btw, increasing nFFT increases the number of points used in the FFT,
which <br>
increases the spectral <b>frequency</b> resolution (smaller binwidth)
but for a limited data set<br>
of N points, as is the case in the example, decreases the number of
data averages <br>
thereby decreasing the spectral <b>amplitude</b> resolution
(accuracy). keep in mind that<br>
just changing nFFT without making a corresponding change in overlap
will oversample<br>
the data, thereby skewing the amplitudes. <br>
<br>
in any case, the amplitude change is not approaching infinity, even if
you set nFFT to<br>
6000, which is the length of the timeseries, the amplitudes are ~35dB,
adjust variable ymax<br>
to see this. <br>
<br>
to review issues of spectral/amplitude resolution, windowing/overlap,
etc, a good<br>
reference is Random Data by Bendat&nbsp; &amp;Piersol:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.amazon.com/Random-Data-Analysis-Measurement-Procedures/dp/0471317330">http://www.amazon.com/Random-Data-Analysis-Measurement-Procedures/dp/0471317330</a><br>
<br>
i remain unconvinced that the PSD amplitudes are reasonable, which only
leaves Matlab<br>
as an alternative... that's a hard pill to swallow... matplotlib is
clearly preferable.<br>
<br>
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Please try the attached script.<br>
The answer should be ~0 dB for each of the frequencies.<br>
Most likely a simple scaling issue/parameter of which i'm ignorant.<br>
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except ImportError: <br>
&nbsp; print "Failed to import numpy."<br>
&nbsp; <br>
try:<br>
&nbsp; import pylab as mp &nbsp;# matplotlib.sourceforge.net<br>
&nbsp; from matplotlib.font_manager import fontManager, FontProperties
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# Default Parameters<br>
nFFT &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;= 1024 <br>
overlap &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = 512 &nbsp;<br>
freqSample &nbsp; &nbsp;= 100. <br>
PlotAll &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = False<br>
WriteOutput &nbsp; = False<br>
 <br>
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
## Main module<br>
def main():<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; deltaF = freqSample/nFFT # Frequency resolution in Hz<br>
&nbsp; deltaT = 1./freqSample &nbsp; # Sample interval<br>
&nbsp; print 'Sample interval %e (s)' &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; % (deltaT)<br>
&nbsp; print 'Frequency resolution %e (Hz)' % (deltaF)<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; # Setup Plots<br>
&nbsp; #
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&nbsp; mp.figure(1)<br>
&nbsp; mp.title ( "PSD" )<br>
&nbsp; mp.ylabel( "(dB)" )<br>
&nbsp; mp.xlabel( "Frequency (Hz)" )<br>
&nbsp; legendFont = FontProperties(size='small')<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; ymin = 0<br>
&nbsp; ymax = 30<br>
&nbsp; xmin = 0<br>
&nbsp; xmax = 50<br>
&nbsp; xticks = 5<br>
&nbsp; yticks = 5<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; if PlotAll:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; mp.figure(2)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; mp.title ( "Input Timeseries" )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; mp.ylabel( "Amplitude" )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; mp.xlabel( "time (s)" )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; # Create some synthetic data with unity RMS amplitude = 0 dB<br>
&nbsp; #
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&nbsp; t = mp.arange(0., 60., deltaT) # 60 seconds at deltaT interval<br>
&nbsp; A = 1.414<br>
&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp; y0 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 5 &nbsp;* t )<br>
&nbsp; y1 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 10 * t )<br>
&nbsp; y2 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 20 * t )<br>
&nbsp; y3 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 30 * t )<br>
&nbsp; y4 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 40 * t )<br>
&nbsp; y5 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 45 * t )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; dataList = [ y0, y1, y2, y3, y4, y5 ]<br>
&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp; for data in dataList:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; inputDataLen = len( data )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; numAverages &nbsp;= math.floor( inputDataLen / (overlap)
) - 1<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; normalizedRandomError = 1./math.sqrt( numAverages
)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; print "%d points" % ( inputDataLen ),<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; print "%d averages" % (numAverages),<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; print "normalized random error %.3f" %
( normalizedRandomError )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; mp.figure(1)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (Pxx, freqs) = mp.psd( data,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;NFFT &nbsp; &nbsp; = nFFT,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Fs &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = freqSample,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;noverlap = overlap,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;lw &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = 2,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;label &nbsp; &nbsp;= '' )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Pxx_dB = 10.*log10(Pxx)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; if PlotAll:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; mp.figure(2)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; mp.plot(t, data, label='' )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; # Write Output data<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; #
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; if WriteOutput:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; PxxLen = len(Pxx)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; OutputFile = "PSD.dat"<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; fdOutFile = open( OutputFile, 'a' )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; fdOutFile.write( "Freq\t\tPower(dB)\n"
)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; for i in range(PxxLen):<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; fdOutFile.write( "%.4e\t%.3f\n"
% ( freqs[i], Pxx_dB[i] ) )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; fdOutFile.close()<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; print "Wrote ", PxxLen, "
points to ", OutputFile<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>
 <br>
&nbsp; # Show the Plot<br>
&nbsp; #
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&nbsp; mp.figure(1)<br>
&nbsp; mp.axis([xmin, xmax, ymin, ymax])<br>
&nbsp; mp.xticks( arange(xmin, xmax+1, xticks) )<br>
&nbsp; mp.yticks( arange(ymin, ymax &nbsp;, yticks) )<br>
&nbsp; mp.title('')<br>
&nbsp; mp.xlabel('Frequency (Hz)')<br>
&nbsp; mp.ylabel(r'$\tt{dB re V^2/Hz}$')<br>
&nbsp; #mp.legend( loc='upper right', prop=legendFont )<br>
&nbsp; if WriteOutput:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; plotFileName = "PSD.png"<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; mp.savefig( plotFileName )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; print "Wrote png image to ", plotFileName<br>
&nbsp; if PlotAll:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; mp.figure(2)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; #mp.legend( loc='lower left', prop=legendFont )<br>
&nbsp; mp.show()<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; print "Normal Exit"<br>
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From: <bre...@un...> - 2007年10月26日 00:17:43
If you lower the resolution (ie increase nFFT) in your program you will 
see that the PSD does indeed increase. I think it may be on the way to 
infinity.
Joseph Park <jp...@is...> 
Sent by: mat...@li...
26/10/2007 10:05 AM
To
mat...@li...
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Subject
Re: [Matplotlib-users] PSD amplitudes
Shouldn't the PSD for a simple sine wave tend to infinity
the spectral resolution will impact the amplitude, if you
are not dealing with a density. by definition a spectral density
has applied the bandwidth resolution correction. the PSD amplitude
should correspond to the RMS amplitude of the sine wave. in the
example a 1VRMS amplitude sine wave (time domain) should have a
PSD power of 20*log(1V) = 0dB. The windowing function will impact
this ideal number a bit, but certainly not by 25dB.
bre...@un... wrote: 
Are you sure that the answer should be zero? Shouldn't the PSD for a 
simple sine wave tend to infinity (depending on the resolution)? 
Joseph Park <jp...@is...> 
Sent by: mat...@li... 
26/10/2007 06:50 AM 
To
mat...@li... 
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Please try the attached script.
The answer should be ~0 dB for each of the frequencies.
Most likely a simple scaling issue/parameter of which i'm ignorant.
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## Name: psd_scale.py
## 
## Purpose: Test Power Spectral Density of 1Vrms data
## Depends on Python SciPy and NumPy
## 
## Author: J Park
##
## Created: 10/17/07
##
## Modified: 
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------
try:
 from numpy import * # www.numpy.org numpy.scipy.org
except ImportError: 
 print "Failed to import numpy."
 
try:
 import pylab as mp # matplotlib.sourceforge.net
 from matplotlib.font_manager import fontManager, FontProperties 
except ImportError: 
 print "Failed to import pylab."
 
# Default Parameters
nFFT = 1024 
overlap = 512 
freqSample = 100. 
PlotAll = False
WriteOutput = False
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------
## Main module
def main():
 deltaF = freqSample/nFFT # Frequency resolution in Hz
 deltaT = 1./freqSample # Sample interval
 print 'Sample interval %e (s)' % (deltaT)
 print 'Frequency resolution %e (Hz)' % (deltaF)
 # Setup Plots
 # 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 mp.figure(1)
 mp.title ( "PSD" )
 mp.ylabel( "(dB)" )
 mp.xlabel( "Frequency (Hz)" )
 legendFont = FontProperties(size='small')
 ymin = 0
 ymax = 30
 xmin = 0
 xmax = 50
 xticks = 5
 yticks = 5
 if PlotAll:
 mp.figure(2)
 mp.title ( "Input Timeseries" )
 mp.ylabel( "Amplitude" )
 mp.xlabel( "time (s)" )
 # Create some synthetic data with unity RMS amplitude = 0 dB
 # 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 t = mp.arange(0., 60., deltaT) # 60 seconds at deltaT interval
 A = 1.414
 
 y0 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 5 * t )
 y1 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 10 * t )
 y2 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 20 * t )
 y3 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 30 * t )
 y4 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 40 * t )
 y5 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 45 * t )
 dataList = [ y0, y1, y2, y3, y4, y5 ]
 
 for data in dataList:
 inputDataLen = len( data )
 numAverages = math.floor( inputDataLen / (overlap) ) - 1
 normalizedRandomError = 1./math.sqrt( numAverages )
 print "%d points" % ( inputDataLen ),
 print "%d averages" % (numAverages),
 print "normalized random error %.3f" % ( normalizedRandomError )
 mp.figure(1)
 (Pxx, freqs) = mp.psd( data,
 NFFT = nFFT,
 Fs = freqSample,
 noverlap = overlap,
 lw = 2,
 label = '' )
 Pxx_dB = 10.*log10(Pxx)
 
 if PlotAll:
 mp.figure(2)
 mp.plot(t, data, label='' )
 # Write Output data
 # 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 if WriteOutput:
 PxxLen = len(Pxx)
 OutputFile = "PSD.dat"
 fdOutFile = open( OutputFile, 'a' )
 fdOutFile.write( "Freq\t\tPower(dB)\n" )
 for i in range(PxxLen):
 fdOutFile.write( "%.4e\t%.3f\n" % ( freqs[i], Pxx_dB[i] ) )
 fdOutFile.close()
 print "Wrote ", PxxLen, " points to ", OutputFile
 
 # Show the Plot
 # 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 mp.figure(1)
 mp.axis([xmin, xmax, ymin, ymax])
 mp.xticks( arange(xmin, xmax+1, xticks) )
 mp.yticks( arange(ymin, ymax , yticks) )
 mp.title('')
 mp.xlabel('Frequency (Hz)')
 mp.ylabel(r'$\tt{dB re V^2/Hz}$')
 #mp.legend( loc='upper right', prop=legendFont )
 if WriteOutput:
 plotFileName = "PSD.png"
 mp.savefig( plotFileName )
 print "Wrote png image to ", plotFileName
 if PlotAll:
 mp.figure(2)
 #mp.legend( loc='lower left', prop=legendFont )
 mp.show()
 print "Normal Exit"
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##----------------------------------------------------------------------------
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------
## Provide for cmd line invocation
if __name__ == "__main__":
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<font face="sans-serif" size="2">Shouldn't the PSD for a simple sine
wave tend to infinity<br>
<br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">the spectral resolution
will impact the amplitude, if you<br>
are <b>not</b> dealing with a density. by definition a spectral density<br>
has applied the bandwidth resolution correction. the PSD amplitude<br>
should correspond to the RMS amplitude of the sine wave. in the<br>
example a 1VRMS amplitude sine wave (time domain) should have a<br>
PSD power of 20*log(1V) = 0dB. The windowing function will impact<br>
this ideal number a bit, but certainly not by 25dB.<br>
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 <font color="#000066" size="3">Please try the attached script.<br>
The answer should be ~0 dB for each of the frequencies.<br>
Most likely a simple scaling issue/parameter of which i'm ignorant.<br>
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## Name: &nbsp; &nbsp; psd_scale.py<br>
## &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>
## Purpose: &nbsp;Test Power Spectral Density of 1Vrms data<br>
## &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Depends on Python SciPy and NumPy<br>
## &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>
## Author: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; J Park<br>
##<br>
## Created: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;10/17/07<br>
##<br>
## Modified: &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
 <br>
try:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;from numpy import * &nbsp;# <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.numpy.org">www.numpy.org</a> numpy.scipy.org<br>
except ImportError: <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;print "Failed to import numpy."<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
try:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;import pylab as mp &nbsp;# matplotlib.sourceforge.net<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;from matplotlib.font_manager import fontManager, FontProperties
 <br>
except ImportError: <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;print "Failed to import pylab."<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
 <br>
# Default Parameters<br>
nFFT &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;= 1024 <br>
overlap &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = 512 &nbsp;<br>
freqSample &nbsp; &nbsp;= 100. <br>
PlotAll &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = False<br>
WriteOutput &nbsp; = False<br>
 <br>
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
## Main module<br>
def main():<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;deltaF = freqSample/nFFT # Frequency resolution in Hz<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;deltaT = 1./freqSample &nbsp; # Sample interval<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;print 'Sample interval %e (s)' &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; % (deltaT)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;print 'Frequency resolution %e (Hz)' % (deltaF)<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;# Setup Plots<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;#
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;mp.figure(1)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;mp.title ( "PSD" )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;mp.ylabel( "(dB)" )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;mp.xlabel( "Frequency (Hz)" )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;legendFont = FontProperties(size='small')<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;ymin = 0<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;ymax = 30<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;xmin = 0<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;xmax = 50<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;xticks = 5<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;yticks = 5<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;if PlotAll:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.figure(2)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.title ( "Input Timeseries" )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.ylabel( "Amplitude" )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.xlabel( "time (s)" )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;# Create some synthetic data with unity RMS amplitude = 0
dB<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;#
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;t = mp.arange(0., 60., deltaT) # 60 seconds at deltaT interval<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;A = 1.414<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;y0 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 5 &nbsp;* t )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;y1 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 10 * t )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;y2 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 20 * t )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;y3 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 30 * t )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;y4 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 40 * t )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;y5 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 45 * t )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;dataList = [ y0, y1, y2, y3, y4, y5 ]<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;for data in dataList:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;inputDataLen = len( data )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;numAverages &nbsp;= math.floor( inputDataLen
/ (overlap) ) - 1<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;normalizedRandomError = 1./math.sqrt( numAverages
)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;print "%d points" % ( inputDataLen
),<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;print "%d averages" % (numAverages),<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;print "normalized random error %.3f"
% ( normalizedRandomError )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.figure(1)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;(Pxx, freqs) = mp.psd( data,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; NFFT &nbsp; &nbsp; = nFFT,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Fs &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = freqSample,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; noverlap = overlap,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; lw &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; = 2,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; label &nbsp; &nbsp;= '' )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Pxx_dB = 10.*log10(Pxx)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;if PlotAll:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.figure(2)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.plot(t, data, label='' )<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;# Write Output data<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;#
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;if WriteOutput:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;PxxLen = len(Pxx)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;OutputFile = "PSD.dat"<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fdOutFile = open( OutputFile,
'a' )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fdOutFile.write( "Freq\t\tPower(dB)\n"
)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;for i in range(PxxLen):<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fdOutFile.write(
"%.4e\t%.3f\n" % ( freqs[i], Pxx_dB[i] ) )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;fdOutFile.close()<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;print "Wrote ", PxxLen,
" points to ", OutputFile<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;# Show the Plot<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;#
----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;mp.figure(1)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;mp.axis([xmin, xmax, ymin, ymax])<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;mp.xticks( arange(xmin, xmax+1, xticks) )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;mp.yticks( arange(ymin, ymax &nbsp;, yticks) )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;mp.title('')<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;mp.xlabel('Frequency (Hz)')<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;mp.ylabel(r'$\tt{dB re V^2/Hz}$')<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;#mp.legend( loc='upper right', prop=legendFont )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;if WriteOutput:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;plotFileName = "PSD.png"<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.savefig( plotFileName )<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;print "Wrote png image to ", plotFileName<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;if PlotAll:<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mp.figure(2)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;#mp.legend( loc='lower left', prop=legendFont
)<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;mp.show()<br>
 <br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;print "Normal Exit"<br>
## Main module<br>
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
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##----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
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From: <bre...@un...> - 2007年10月26日 00:00:14
Are you sure that the answer should be zero? Shouldn't the PSD for a 
simple sine wave tend to infinity (depending on the resolution)?
Joseph Park <jp...@is...> 
Sent by: mat...@li...
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Please try the attached script.
The answer should be ~0 dB for each of the frequencies.
Most likely a simple scaling issue/parameter of which i'm ignorant.
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##----------------------------------------------------------------------------
## Name: psd_scale.py
## 
## Purpose: Test Power Spectral Density of 1Vrms data
## Depends on Python SciPy and NumPy
## 
## Author: J Park
##
## Created: 10/17/07
##
## Modified: 
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------
try:
 from numpy import * # www.numpy.org numpy.scipy.org
except ImportError: 
 print "Failed to import numpy."
 
try:
 import pylab as mp # matplotlib.sourceforge.net
 from matplotlib.font_manager import fontManager, FontProperties 
except ImportError: 
 print "Failed to import pylab."
 
# Default Parameters
nFFT = 1024 
overlap = 512 
freqSample = 100. 
PlotAll = False
WriteOutput = False
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------
## Main module
def main():
 deltaF = freqSample/nFFT # Frequency resolution in Hz
 deltaT = 1./freqSample # Sample interval
 print 'Sample interval %e (s)' % (deltaT)
 print 'Frequency resolution %e (Hz)' % (deltaF)
 # Setup Plots
 # 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 mp.figure(1)
 mp.title ( "PSD" )
 mp.ylabel( "(dB)" )
 mp.xlabel( "Frequency (Hz)" )
 legendFont = FontProperties(size='small')
 ymin = 0
 ymax = 30
 xmin = 0
 xmax = 50
 xticks = 5
 yticks = 5
 if PlotAll:
 mp.figure(2)
 mp.title ( "Input Timeseries" )
 mp.ylabel( "Amplitude" )
 mp.xlabel( "time (s)" )
 # Create some synthetic data with unity RMS amplitude = 0 dB
 # 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 t = mp.arange(0., 60., deltaT) # 60 seconds at deltaT interval
 A = 1.414
 
 y0 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 5 * t )
 y1 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 10 * t )
 y2 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 20 * t )
 y3 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 30 * t )
 y4 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 40 * t )
 y5 = A * sin( 2. * math.pi * 45 * t )
 dataList = [ y0, y1, y2, y3, y4, y5 ]
 
 for data in dataList:
 inputDataLen = len( data )
 numAverages = math.floor( inputDataLen / (overlap) ) - 1
 normalizedRandomError = 1./math.sqrt( numAverages )
 print "%d points" % ( inputDataLen ),
 print "%d averages" % (numAverages),
 print "normalized random error %.3f" % ( normalizedRandomError )
 mp.figure(1)
 (Pxx, freqs) = mp.psd( data,
 NFFT = nFFT,
 Fs = freqSample,
 noverlap = overlap,
 lw = 2,
 label = '' )
 Pxx_dB = 10.*log10(Pxx)
 
 if PlotAll:
 mp.figure(2)
 mp.plot(t, data, label='' )
 # Write Output data
 # 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 if WriteOutput:
 PxxLen = len(Pxx)
 OutputFile = "PSD.dat"
 fdOutFile = open( OutputFile, 'a' )
 fdOutFile.write( "Freq\t\tPower(dB)\n" )
 for i in range(PxxLen):
 fdOutFile.write( "%.4e\t%.3f\n" % ( freqs[i], Pxx_dB[i] ) 
)
 fdOutFile.close()
 print "Wrote ", PxxLen, " points to ", OutputFile
 
 # Show the Plot
 # 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
 mp.figure(1)
 mp.axis([xmin, xmax, ymin, ymax])
 mp.xticks( arange(xmin, xmax+1, xticks) )
 mp.yticks( arange(ymin, ymax , yticks) )
 mp.title('')
 mp.xlabel('Frequency (Hz)')
 mp.ylabel(r'$\tt{dB re V^2/Hz}$')
 #mp.legend( loc='upper right', prop=legendFont )
 if WriteOutput:
 plotFileName = "PSD.png"
 mp.savefig( plotFileName )
 print "Wrote png image to ", plotFileName
 if PlotAll:
 mp.figure(2)
 #mp.legend( loc='lower left', prop=legendFont )
 mp.show()
 print "Normal Exit"
## Main module
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------
##----------------------------------------------------------------------------
## Provide for cmd line invocation
if __name__ == "__main__":
 main()
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