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Thanks Darren, Here's a copy of what IDLE is printing to the screen (i'm using idle because I'm lazy & don't like typing filepaths in full ; ) - a lot of my python stuff is about avoiding doing exactly this for csound repeatedly... ) There's nothing specific re the Tk window crash that i can see Many other .py matplotlib examples I have tried work - just (so far) not the >>> plot([1,2,3]) command, nor Anim.py that i have taken from the distributed examples zip. In the case of Anim.py, the window launches & displays the animation sucessfully - however any attempt at window interaction results in hang & crash. My hunch is the problem is Tk(?), not Matplotlib. I have to admit, the font choice seems like an unusual / unexpected one (see below) Anyway, thanks for taking a look, & please advice if anything you see below is illuminating on any issue at all. >>> from pylab import * loaded rc file C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\matplotlib\mpl-data\matplotlibrc matplotlib version 0.91.2 verbose.level debug interactive is True units is False platform is win32 loaded modules: ['pylab', '_bisect', 'xml.sax.urlparse', 'distutils', 'tkFileDialog', 'random', 'datetime', 'idlelib.macosxSupport', 'matplotlib.tempfile', 'distutils.sysconfig', 'encodings.encodings', 'pytz.cStringIO', 'xml', 'struct', 'tempfile', 'xml.sax.urllib', 'pytz.tzinfo', 'idlelib.cPickle', 'matplotlib.__future__', 'imp', 'collections', 'idlelib.MultiCall', 'pytz.os', 'zipimport', 'string', 'SocketServer', 'repr', 'idlelib.string', 'idlelib.bdb', 'pytz.datetime', 'itertools', 'distutils.re', 'idlelib.SocketServer', 'ConfigParser', 'bisect', 'signal', 'idlelib.IOBinding', 'xml.sax.types', 'threading', 'tkMessageBox', 'idlelib.warnings', 'xml.sax.xmlreader', 'matplotlib.pytz', 'idlelib.struct', 'idlelib.cStringIO', 'idlelib.linecache', 'locale', 'idlelib.threading', 'idlelib.TreeWidget', 'idlelib.rpc', 'idlelib.re', 'encodings', 'idlelib.RemoteDebugger', 'idlelib.tempfile', 'shutil', 'dateutil', 'idlelib.codecs', '_tkinter', 'bdb', 'matplotlib.warnings', 'matplotlib.string', 'pytz.pytz', 'urllib', 'matplotlib.sys', 're', 'idlelib.RemoteObjectBrowser', 'ntpath', 'idlelib.imp', 'idlelib.locale', 'idlelib.thread', 'math', 'idlelib.Debugger', 'Tkinter', 'idlelib.traceback', 'idlelib.marshal', 'UserDict', 'distutils.os', 'matplotlib', 'Queue', 'idlelib.StackViewer', 'codecs', 'idlelib.copy_reg', 'md5', '_locale', 'idlelib.AutoComplete', 'matplotlib.sre_constants', 'socket', 'thread', 'idlelib.time', 'traceback', 'weakref', 'idlelib.socket', 'idlelib.CallTipWindow', 'os', 'marshal', 'pytz.tzfile', '__future__', 'nturl2path', 'idlelib.AutoCompleteWindow', 'idlelib.tkFileDialog', 'cStringIO', '_sre', 'xml.sax.sys', '__builtin__', 'matplotlib.copy', 'matplotlib.re', 'operator', 'distutils.string', 'select', 'idlelib.os', 'idlelib.ZoomHeight', 'matplotlib.datetime', 'idlelib.ConfigParser', 'errno', '_socket', 'binascii', 'sre_constants', 'matplotlib.md5', 'types', 'pytz.sys', 'xml.sax.handler', 'idlelib.__builtin__', 'idlelib.tkMessageBox', 'xml.sax.os', 'cPickle', 'matplotlib.xml', 'idlelib.HyperParser', 'encodings.cp1252', 'pytz', 'matplotlib.pyparsing', 'idlelib.repr', 'copy', 'idlelib.Queue', '_struct', '_types', 'matplotlib.dateutil', 'hashlib', 'keyword', 'idlelib.keyword', 'xml.sax.saxutils', 'idlelib.__main__', 'idlelib.sys', 'encodings.aliases', 'matplotlib.fontconfig_pattern', 'exceptions', 'sre_parse', 'pytz.bisect', 'distutils.distutils', 'FixTk', 'copy_reg', 'sre_compile', 'xml.sax', '_hashlib', '_random', 'pytz.struct', 'site', 'SimpleDialog', '__main__', 'idlelib.types', 'matplotlib.weakref', 'urlparse', 'tkCommonDialog', 'matplotlib.os', 'strop', 'encodings.codecs', 'gettext', '_codecs', 'matplotlib.rcsetup', 'nt', 'pytz.sets', 'xml.sax._exceptions', 'idlelib.PyParse', 'xml.sax.codecs', 'stat', '_ssl', 'warnings', 'encodings.types', 'sets', 'sys', 'idlelib.Tkinter', 'idlelib.CallTips', 'idlelib.configHandler', 'idlelib.WindowList', 'idlelib.SimpleDialog', 'os.path', 'idlelib.ScrolledList', 'pytz.gettext', 'distutils.sys', 'matplotlib.distutils', '_weakref', 'idlelib.ObjectBrowser', 'idlelib', 'Tkconstants', 'distutils.errors', 'matplotlib.matplotlib', 'linecache', 'matplotlib.shutil', 'time', 'idlelib.select', 'idlelib.run'] numerix numpy 1.0.3.1 $HOME=C:\Documents and Settings\Tim CONFIGDIR=C:\Documents and Settings\Tim\.matplotlib Using fontManager instance from C:\Documents and Settings\Tim\.matplotlib\fontManager.cache matplotlib data path C:\Python25\lib\site-packages\matplotlib\mpl-data backend TkAgg version 8.4 >>> plot([1,2,3]) findfont found Bitstream Vera Sans, normal, normal 400, normal, 12.0 findfont returning c:\program files\celemony\melodyne.3.0\vstplugins\uhe_data\podolski\fonts\vera.ttf [<matplotlib.lines.Line2D instance at 0x018383A0>] ....cue blank TK window with infinite hourglass.... ----- ******************* www.phasetransitions.net hermetic music * python * csound * possibly mindless ranting various werk in perpetual delusions of progress.... -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Newbie---plot%28-1%2C2%2C3-%29-issues---Csound-tp16065553p16074266.html Sent from the matplotlib - users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.