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The attached MyContour.py generates ContourDemo.png (also attached). My problem: The contours labels show 3 zeros beyond the decimal point. Is it possible to force these labels to integers? If so how? If not why not? Ps. Is there a way to browse previous postings to matplotlib-users without looking month by month? For example can I bring up all postings regarding 'contour'? thanks, george
Hi, I am trying to make a contour plot using custom labels that consist only of text strings but can not figure it out. For example, if I do the following: A=3Darange(100) A=3DA.reshape(10,10) CS=3Dcontour(A,[50,]) clabel(CS) I get one contour line as expected, but instead of printing the contour level (50) I would like to print a simple string like "Some String." I tried using the fmt option of clabel, but it requires a way to stuff in the level value (ie. fmt=3D"Some String %f"). Is it possible to use a simple string for these labels? Thanks, Scott.
Hi all, I'm trying to display the histograms of lists of 2D vectors together with their error ellipses in a 3D plot. Plotting the histograms as 3D scatterplots is easy using matplotlib.axes3d.Axes3D( ).scatter3D( x, y, h ), but how do I draw the error ellipse in the ( x, y ) plane. I know how to create a matplotlib.patches.Ellipse object, but I'm pretty clueless on how to integrate it into the figure. Any help? -- Alex Borghgraef
Angus McMorland a écrit : > Since all sorts of data can be displayed in am mpl window (e.g. a > plot, a contour...) you have to tell it how to access the correct > scalar value to display. You could do this with the > motion_notify_event. Register it during init, something like: > > self.canvas.mpl_connect('motion_notify_event', self.mouse_move_callback) > > then in mouse_move_callback: > > def mouse_move_callback(self, evt): > xpos, ypos = evt.xdata, evt.ydata > val = self.data[numpy.floor(xpos), numpy.floor(ypos)] > status_str = "x: %4.2f y: %4.2f I:%4.2f" \ > % (xpos, ypos, val) > self.SetStatusText(status_str) > > where data is your image variable. This works in a wx.Frame object, > which has a SetStatusString method for displaying the values. I'm sure > you could find an equivalent in your traits app. > > Thanks, I'll look at this asap (as I got other stuff "on fire"). BTW, I can't ever get (in fact, I don't know how) working the coords to be displayed in my traits app. I guess this is more related to traits, not to mpl. But the "mpl embedded in traits app guru" is on holydays for now. Let's wait... Cheers, -- http://scipy.org/FredericPetit
On 8/6/07, Michael Droettboom <md...@st...> wrote: > from setupext import get_win32_compiler > if sys.platform == 'win32' and get_win32_compiler() == 'mingw32': > for module in ext_modules: > module.libraries.append("msvcrt") That message in setupext.py: NOTE, if you are building on python24 on win32, see http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2004-December/254826.html refers to a patch for distutils to work around that bug. It now appears this link is stale. Your approach is better anyway, because it doesn't require patching distutils. I had assumed that because you guys were following the build instructions closely, that this *was not* the source of your problems. But it looks like the same bug, or at least a closely related one. Haven't been able to find an active link for that post, but your approach probably obviates it anyway.
I'll give the build a try on windows tonight using my usual methods. - Charlie On 8/6/07, Michael Droettboom <md...@st...> wrote: > william ratcliff wrote: > > No, with whatever is in the current version of svn, it now works on the > > intel quad as well. Thanks! > > That's great news! While it's great to hear that it's working, it would > be even better to track down the cause of the failure, if possible. > > Do you mean the current version of SVN of numpy or matplotlib? It > doesn't like there were any commits to matplotlib over the weekend. > > Do you happen to know what SVN revision was breaking before you updated > and everything worked? When you finally updated and things worked, did > you clean the build directory by any chance? Python distutils doesn't > always track dependencies correctly and rebuild enough stuff, which can > sometimes be the cause of problems. > > > I just tried following Michael's build > > instructions (incidentally, could his last additions to setup.py be > > checked in to svn, along with a profile25.bat file?) > > I was wary of committing that change until it had been reviewed by > someone else with more mingw32 experience. It worked for me, but it has > the feel of something slightly hackish... > > For review, in case some other Windows guys are listening, I adding the > following right before the final "distrib = setup(..." in setup.py: > > from setupext import get_win32_compiler > if sys.platform == 'win32' and get_win32_compiler() == 'mingw32': > for module in ext_modules: > module.libraries.append("msvcrt") > > As for profile25.bat, I can't find it in SVN. Maybe whoever is > responsible for win32_static.tar.gz needs to do it. Not sure... > > Cheers, > Mike >
william ratcliff wrote: > No, with whatever is in the current version of svn, it now works on the > intel quad as well. Thanks! That's great news! While it's great to hear that it's working, it would be even better to track down the cause of the failure, if possible. Do you mean the current version of SVN of numpy or matplotlib? It doesn't like there were any commits to matplotlib over the weekend. Do you happen to know what SVN revision was breaking before you updated and everything worked? When you finally updated and things worked, did you clean the build directory by any chance? Python distutils doesn't always track dependencies correctly and rebuild enough stuff, which can sometimes be the cause of problems. > I just tried following Michael's build > instructions (incidentally, could his last additions to setup.py be > checked in to svn, along with a profile25.bat file?) I was wary of committing that change until it had been reviewed by someone else with more mingw32 experience. It worked for me, but it has the feel of something slightly hackish... For review, in case some other Windows guys are listening, I adding the following right before the final "distrib = setup(..." in setup.py: from setupext import get_win32_compiler if sys.platform == 'win32' and get_win32_compiler() == 'mingw32': for module in ext_modules: module.libraries.append("msvcrt") As for profile25.bat, I can't find it in SVN. Maybe whoever is responsible for win32_static.tar.gz needs to do it. Not sure... Cheers, Mike
No, with whatever is in the current version of svn, it now works on the intel quad as well. Thanks! On 8/5/07, william ratcliff <wil...@gm...> wrote: > > One more datapoint--I am becoming suspicious that this could be an arch > problem. A colleague was able to build from source under cygwin on his > rather old laptop. However, another colleague and myself have rather new > computers and both failed (with different errors in the verbose mode). I > just tried following Michael's build instructions (incidentally, could his > last additions to setup.py be checked in to svn, along with a > profile25.bat file?) on an old windows box that we have lying around here > and it also worked well and I was able to run the embedding_in_wx4.py > example without any problems. > > The computer that I've been having all of the problems on also was > relatively clean--so, there are only two things I can think of--either some > bizarre clash with the version of numpy that I built from source off of svn > (which passed all of its tests, so I doubt it), or an arch dependence. I > have an intel quad and my colleage has a duo, so perhaps there's a problem > with computers with multiple processors? I will check the numpy issue later > today. > > Thanks again, > William > > On 8/2/07, william ratcliff <wil...@gm...> wrote: > > > > Oh--sorry I didn't read carefully--I don't need to install from sourceif there is a binary of the current svn version. > > > > Thanks!! > > > > William > > > > > > On 8/2/07, william ratcliff <wil...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > One of my colleagues, Paul Kienzle has made a number of additions to > > > matplotlib for interacting with artists. I need to use some of those > > > additions--which are not included in the stable release. Paul's on > > > vacation, so I am trying to start from source. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > William > > > > > > On 8/2/07, John Hunter < jd...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, william ratcliff <wil...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > Thanks again for all your work on this. I moved my old minGW and > > > > installed > > > > > MinGW-5.1.3 , and was already running the others--except numpy, I > > > > have the > > > > > latest version from svn, which I compiled and built fine after > > > > building > > > > > atlas. I checked out matplotlib from svn and did the same as you > > > > > --I didn't try using the importlib batch file--I have a > > > > libpython25.a--so, > > > > > after changing the profile24.bat to profile25.bat with appropriate > > > > path > > > > > changes and your modifications to setup.py, I built it. I then > > > > installed > > > > > it--no problems yet. I then tried to use it with > > > > embedding_in_wx4.py and > > > > > python crashes and burns. I find that it crashes with the same > > > > LazyValue > > > > > error. Something similar happened to one of my colleagues who > > > > tried building > > > > > with visual studio instead of mingw. He's given up and is now > > > > running it on > > > > > his Mac. Sadly, I don't have that option. Does anyone else have > > > > any ideas? > > > > > > > > Charlie Moad does our win32 builds for releases -- Charlie if you > > > > get > > > > a minute could you see if your build pipeline is still working OK > > > > with > > > > the recent svn changes, and if so take pity on poor William and send > > > > him an installer? > > > > > > > > Or is there some reason you *need* to be building from src William? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > JDH > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Tommy, The easiest way is probably to provide contourf with x and y arguments corresponding to the bin centers. The x vector would have an entry for each column in your Z(x,y), and the y vector an entry for each row. In [1]:z = rand(10,20) In [2]:x = 2*arange(20) In [3]:y = 2*arange(10) In [4]:contourf(x,y,z) Eric Tommy Grav wrote: > I am creating a 2 dimensional histogram that I would like to plot as > a contourf plot with > matplotlib. I am using numpy to generate the histogram, but when I > plot it the tick marks > are of course the index of the histogram array. How do I change these > tick labels to > the value of the bins used to generate the histogram? > > Cheers > Tommy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Matplotlib-users mailing list > Mat...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users
One more datapoint--I am becoming suspicious that this could be an arch problem. A colleague was able to build from source under cygwin on his rather old laptop. However, another colleague and myself have rather new computers and both failed (with different errors in the verbose mode). I just tried following Michael's build instructions (incidentally, could his last additions to setup.py be checked in to svn, along with a profile25.batfile?) on an old windows box that we have lying around here and it also worked well and I was able to run the embedding_in_wx4.py example without any problems. The computer that I've been having all of the problems on also was relatively clean--so, there are only two things I can think of--either some bizarre clash with the version of numpy that I built from source off of svn (which passed all of its tests, so I doubt it), or an arch dependence. I have an intel quad and my colleage has a duo, so perhaps there's a problem with computers with multiple processors? I will check the numpy issue later today. Thanks again, William On 8/2/07, william ratcliff <wil...@gm...> wrote: > > Oh--sorry I didn't read carefully--I don't need to install from source if > there is a binary of the current svn version. > > Thanks!! > > William > > > On 8/2/07, william ratcliff <wil...@gm...> wrote: > > > > One of my colleagues, Paul Kienzle has made a number of additions to > > matplotlib for interacting with artists. I need to use some of those > > additions--which are not included in the stable release. Paul's on > > vacation, so I am trying to start from source. > > > > Thanks, > > William > > > > On 8/2/07, John Hunter < jd...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > On 8/2/07, william ratcliff <wil...@gm...> wrote: > > > > Thanks again for all your work on this. I moved my old minGW and > > > installed > > > > MinGW-5.1.3 , and was already running the others--except numpy, I > > > have the > > > > latest version from svn, which I compiled and built fine after > > > building > > > > atlas. I checked out matplotlib from svn and did the same as you > > > > --I didn't try using the importlib batch file--I have a > > > libpython25.a--so, > > > > after changing the profile24.bat to profile25.bat with appropriate > > > path > > > > changes and your modifications to setup.py, I built it. I then > > > installed > > > > it--no problems yet. I then tried to use it with > > > embedding_in_wx4.py and > > > > python crashes and burns. I find that it crashes with the same > > > LazyValue > > > > error. Something similar happened to one of my colleagues who tried > > > building > > > > with visual studio instead of mingw. He's given up and is now > > > running it on > > > > his Mac. Sadly, I don't have that option. Does anyone else have > > > any ideas? > > > > > > Charlie Moad does our win32 builds for releases -- Charlie if you get > > > a minute could you see if your build pipeline is still working OK with > > > > > > the recent svn changes, and if so take pity on poor William and send > > > him an installer? > > > > > > Or is there some reason you *need* to be building from src William? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > JDH > > > > > > > >
I am creating a 2 dimensional histogram that I would like to plot as a contourf plot with matplotlib. I am using numpy to generate the histogram, but when I plot it the tick marks are of course the index of the histogram array. How do I change these tick labels to the value of the bins used to generate the histogram? Cheers Tommy
Hi fred, On 04/08/07, fred <fr...@gm...> wrote: > Well, running mpl examples (say image_demo.py), > you can see the point coordinates under the pointer. > Good point ;-) > > I would like to have the scalar value under the pointer to be displayed > too. > > How could I do this ? Since all sorts of data can be displayed in am mpl window (e.g. a plot, a contour...) you have to tell it how to access the correct scalar value to display. You could do this with the motion_notify_event. Register it during init, something like: self.canvas.mpl_connect('motion_notify_event', self.mouse_move_callback) then in mouse_move_callback: def mouse_move_callback(self, evt): xpos, ypos = evt.xdata, evt.ydata val = self.data[numpy.floor(xpos), numpy.floor(ypos)] status_str = "x: %4.2f y: %4.2f I:%4.2f" \ % (xpos, ypos, val) self.SetStatusText(status_str) where data is your image variable. This works in a wx.Frame object, which has a SetStatusString method for displaying the values. I'm sure you could find an equivalent in your traits app. Hope that helps, Gus. -- AJC McMorland, PhD Student Physiology, University of Auckland
John Hunter <jdh2358@...> writes: > On 8/3/07, fred <fredmfp@...> wrote: > > > >>> Is there any tarball for ml archives ? > > Unfortunately a lot of the mail archive search algorithms are pretty > poor. I subscribe over gmail, which has decent search, but I do not > have the entire archives. I have a lot of the archives, particularly > the earlier years when I was using a UNIX mail server and client, but > now that I have moved over to gmail I do not have the recent archives > in flat file or tarball. You can download the recent archives from gmane.org (though all email addresses are encrypted): http://gmane.org/export.php I wonder if there is any similar possibility at sourceforge? The gmane archives only go back to 2004 or so, so it would be nice if you (or other early developers) could upload older archives to gmane. The instructions are at http://gmane.org/import.php but basically all you have to do is put up a unix-style mbox file somewhere and send the URL to the gmane administrators. Importing does have the effect that old article numbers are no longer valid, and thus the read/unread status in newsreader programs is reset; thus it would be a good idea to gather all old archives first and then do just one upload, and warn readers in advance. -- Jouni
John Hunter a écrit : > But you can just ask us -- maybe we can help. > Ok. Well, running mpl examples (say image_demo.py), you can see the point coordinates under the pointer. Good point ;-) I would like to have the scalar value under the pointer to be displayed too. How could I do this ? In fact, I use mpl in a traits app, which looks like this: http://fredantispam.free.fr/mpl.png In my traits app, no point coords under pointer are displayed. Am I missing something obvious ? snippet code: da = self.display.axes self.img = da.imshow(self.current_data.array, vmin=self.vmin, vmax=self.vmax, cmap=self.cmap, interpolation=self.interpolate_colormap_method, extent=extent, origin=self.origin, alpha=self.opacity) self.display.figure.canvas.draw() TIA. Cheers, -- http://scipy.org/FredericPetit
On 8/3/07, fred <fr...@gm...> wrote: > >>> Is there any tarball for ml archives ? > >>> > >>> > >> You can search the user and developer archives here: > >> > >> http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=80706 > >> > Yes, but with "probing" keyword, > results are not relevant: > "Could not fire up pylab in Japanese XP" > > I can't believe that no one has asked before about this issue ;-) Unfortunately a lot of the mail archive search algorithms are pretty poor. I subscribe over gmail, which has decent search, but I do not have the entire archives. I have a lot of the archives, particularly the earlier years when I was using a UNIX mail server and client, but now that I have moved over to gmail I do not have the recent archives in flat file or tarball. But you can just ask us -- maybe we can help. JDH
Michael Droettboom a écrit : > Darren Dale wrote: > >> On Friday 03 August 2007 08:03:31 am fred wrote: >> >> >>> Is there any tarball for ml archives ? >>> >>> >> You can search the user and developer archives here: >> >> http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=80706 >> Yes, but with "probing" keyword, results are not relevant: "Could not fire up pylab in Japanese XP" I can't believe that no one has asked before about this issue ;-) -- http://scipy.org/FredericPetit
Darren Dale wrote: > On Friday 03 August 2007 08:03:31 am fred wrote: > >> Is there any tarball for ml archives ? >> > > You can search the user and developer archives here: > > http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=80706 > It's also archived on gmane, which has a different interface that some prefer: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.matplotlib.general Or, in a bind, sometimes using Google with "matplotlib-users" in the search string can return different results. Cheers, Mike
On Friday 03 August 2007 08:03:31 am fred wrote: > Is there any tarball for ml archives ? You can search the user and developer archives here: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=80706
Hi, Is there any tarball for ml archives ? In fact, I'm looking for something related to values probing (with a pointer, for example). So I want, before asking, to have a look in the archives. Cheers, -- http://scipy.org/FredericPetit
Ted Drain wrote: > I don't think so. We always manually check for horizontal and > vertical axis crossings and split the line as many times as necessary. > One other solution might be to not plot a line, but use scatter to plot the individual points. If there are enough of them, it will look OK. -Jeff > At 03:31 PM 8/2/2007, James Boyle wrote: > >> This is probably for Jeff but maybe someone else has an answer. >> If I plot a satellite orbit on the globe when the groundtrack passes >> the edge of the map - in this case the Greenwich meridian - the >> line 'snaps back ' across the plot where the line picks up on the >> other side of the globe. >> The attached plot shows the problem, note the line across the >> northern polar regions. I have encountered this before. In this case >> I can break the ground track into two segments, one up to and >> including Greenwich and the other from Greenwich eastward. >> >> My question: Is there a more elegant way to deal with this situation >> in Basemap? I have a nagging feeling that Jeff has addressed this >> issue but I cannot find anything in the examples. >> >> --Jim >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >> Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >> Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. >> Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Matplotlib-users mailing list >> Mat...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Matplotlib-users mailing list > Mat...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users > -- Jeffrey S. Whitaker Phone : (303)497-6313 Meteorologist FAX : (303)497-6449 NOAA/OAR/PSD R/PSD1 Email : Jef...@no... 325 Broadway Office : Skaggs Research Cntr 1D-124 Boulder, CO, USA 80303-3328 Web : http://tinyurl.com/5telg
I don't think so. We always manually check for horizontal and vertical axis crossings and split the line as many times as necessary. At 03:31 PM 8/2/2007, James Boyle wrote: >This is probably for Jeff but maybe someone else has an answer. >If I plot a satellite orbit on the globe when the groundtrack passes >the edge of the map - in this case the Greenwich meridian - the >line 'snaps back ' across the plot where the line picks up on the >other side of the globe. >The attached plot shows the problem, note the line across the >northern polar regions. I have encountered this before. In this case >I can break the ground track into two segments, one up to and >including Greenwich and the other from Greenwich eastward. > >My question: Is there a more elegant way to deal with this situation >in Basemap? I have a nagging feeling that Jeff has addressed this >issue but I cannot find anything in the examples. > >--Jim > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. >Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >_______________________________________________ >Matplotlib-users mailing list >Mat...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/matplotlib-users
This is probably for Jeff but maybe someone else has an answer. If I plot a satellite orbit on the globe when the groundtrack passes the edge of the map - in this case the Greenwich meridian - the line 'snaps back ' across the plot where the line picks up on the other side of the globe. The attached plot shows the problem, note the line across the northern polar regions. I have encountered this before. In this case I can break the ground track into two segments, one up to and including Greenwich and the other from Greenwich eastward. My question: Is there a more elegant way to deal with this situation in Basemap? I have a nagging feeling that Jeff has addressed this issue but I cannot find anything in the examples. --Jim
Oh--sorry I didn't read carefully--I don't need to install from source if there is a binary of the current svn version. Thanks!! William On 8/2/07, william ratcliff <wil...@gm...> wrote: > > One of my colleagues, Paul Kienzle has made a number of additions to > matplotlib for interacting with artists. I need to use some of those > additions--which are not included in the stable release. Paul's on > vacation, so I am trying to start from source. > > Thanks, > William > > On 8/2/07, John Hunter <jd...@gm...> wrote: > > > > On 8/2/07, william ratcliff <wil...@gm...> wrote: > > > Thanks again for all your work on this. I moved my old minGW and > > installed > > > MinGW-5.1.3 , and was already running the others--except numpy, I have > > the > > > latest version from svn, which I compiled and built fine after > > building > > > atlas. I checked out matplotlib from svn and did the same as you > > > --I didn't try using the importlib batch file--I have a > > libpython25.a--so, > > > after changing the profile24.bat to profile25.bat with appropriate > > path > > > changes and your modifications to setup.py, I built it. I then > > installed > > > it--no problems yet. I then tried to use it with embedding_in_wx4.py > > and > > > python crashes and burns. I find that it crashes with the same > > LazyValue > > > error. Something similar happened to one of my colleagues who tried > > building > > > with visual studio instead of mingw. He's given up and is now running > > it on > > > his Mac. Sadly, I don't have that option. Does anyone else have any > > ideas? > > > > Charlie Moad does our win32 builds for releases -- Charlie if you get > > a minute could you see if your build pipeline is still working OK with > > the recent svn changes, and if so take pity on poor William and send > > him an installer? > > > > Or is there some reason you *need* to be building from src William? > > > > Thanks, > > JDH > > > >
One of my colleagues, Paul Kienzle has made a number of additions to matplotlib for interacting with artists. I need to use some of those additions--which are not included in the stable release. Paul's on vacation, so I am trying to start from source. Thanks, William On 8/2/07, John Hunter <jd...@gm...> wrote: > > On 8/2/07, william ratcliff <wil...@gm...> wrote: > > Thanks again for all your work on this. I moved my old minGW and > installed > > MinGW-5.1.3, and was already running the others--except numpy, I have > the > > latest version from svn, which I compiled and built fine after building > > atlas. I checked out matplotlib from svn and did the same as you > > --I didn't try using the importlib batch file--I have a > libpython25.a--so, > > after changing the profile24.bat to profile25.bat with appropriate path > > changes and your modifications to setup.py, I built it. I then > installed > > it--no problems yet. I then tried to use it with embedding_in_wx4.py > and > > python crashes and burns. I find that it crashes with the same > LazyValue > > error. Something similar happened to one of my colleagues who tried > building > > with visual studio instead of mingw. He's given up and is now running > it on > > his Mac. Sadly, I don't have that option. Does anyone else have any > ideas? > > Charlie Moad does our win32 builds for releases -- Charlie if you get > a minute could you see if your build pipeline is still working OK with > the recent svn changes, and if so take pity on poor William and send > him an installer? > > Or is there some reason you *need* to be building from src William? > > Thanks, > JDH >
On 8/2/07, william ratcliff <wil...@gm...> wrote: > Thanks again for all your work on this. I moved my old minGW and installed > MinGW-5.1.3, and was already running the others--except numpy, I have the > latest version from svn, which I compiled and built fine after building > atlas. I checked out matplotlib from svn and did the same as you > --I didn't try using the importlib batch file--I have a libpython25.a--so, > after changing the profile24.bat to profile25.bat with appropriate path > changes and your modifications to setup.py, I built it. I then installed > it--no problems yet. I then tried to use it with embedding_in_wx4.py and > python crashes and burns. I find that it crashes with the same LazyValue > error. Something similar happened to one of my colleagues who tried building > with visual studio instead of mingw. He's given up and is now running it on > his Mac. Sadly, I don't have that option. Does anyone else have any ideas? Charlie Moad does our win32 builds for releases -- Charlie if you get a minute could you see if your build pipeline is still working OK with the recent svn changes, and if so take pity on poor William and send him an installer? Or is there some reason you *need* to be building from src William? Thanks, JDH