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>> As a bit of a selfish interest, I think your approach might open up a possible approach for a long-standing problem >> of mine with 3d projections. Axes3D objects >> want to fill its entire plot box, but when created through a subplot >> mechanism, the defaults get over-ridden. I wonder if this approach with _init_axes() passing kwargs might >> provide me with the hook to fix this. Yes, having the _init_axes method makes subclassing then initialising an Axes much easier, and avoids the need to make an intermediate class for each Axes construction. >> Hmm, interesting idea. I took a quick look through the code, and it touches on some fragile parts of axes.py, so I wouldn't be >> comfortable with this being in v1.1.0, but I think it is definitely worthy of further investigation. I was wondering if you see axes.py changing significantly in the near future? If not then it would seem a shame to hold back this relatively small change for something not yet in the pipeline. Perhaps you could elaborate on what you feel to be the more fragile aspects and we could start to look to resolve these as a seperate development activity? Thanks again,