WikiPhrasebooks
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| WikiPhrasebooks | |
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| A quick search on Commons suggested | |
| Status of the proposal | |
| Status | rejected |
| Reason | near-unanimous opposition |
| Details of the proposal | |
| Project description | Phrasebooks are guides with basic but useful language information. They are typically travel-related but do not have to be; a phrasebook could potentially be useful anywhere you meet someone who speaks a language you do not know. WikiPhrasebooks, if created as a project, would make online phrasebooks easily accessible, all on a single wiki rather than on other wikis, such as Wikiversity, Wikivoyage, etc. By making WikiPhrasebooks as a separate project, editors would have more chance to edit articles about a language they know. |
| Is it a multilingual wiki? | There would need to be multiple language versions, since each phrasebook would need to be designed for someone who speaks a certain native tongue. |
| Potential number of languages | Per above, different Spanish phrasebooks would be needed on French and English wikis, etc. |
| Proposed tagline | Collection of online phrasebooks or Online phrasebook library |
| Proposed URL | wikiphrasebooks.org |
| Technical requirements | |
| New features to require | No new features would be necessary for this project. |
| Interested participants | |
| Please see WikiPhrasebooks#People interested | |
WikiPhrasebooks is an idea for an online phrasebook library. By creating an online phrasebook wiki, it would hopefully be easier to develop and coordinate all phrasebooks on Wikimedia websites. Various speakers of various languages from around the Wikimedia Community would be able to easily contribute their knowledge of multiple languages with basic information for anyone who is looking for information about basic phrases in a particular language. My (User:SelfieCity) thought is that one page would be used per phrasebook, where possible, but if more than, say, two hundred words or phrases are used in one phrasebook, it could be split into subpages.
This is just an idea, but it would be great to see a new project be launched on Wikimedia, dedicated to phrasebooks, similar to the way that WikiJournals has been developed and hopefully will be created as a project. As I see it, a phrasebook library would have one advantage that would assist content development: as long as someone knows the language, they could develop the phrasebook.
There is a decent number of phrasebooks currently existing on Wikivoyage. Some transwikis could be performed from Wikivoyage to WikiPhrasebooks.
Proposed by
[edit ]Alternative names
[edit ]- WikiPhrasebook (singular)
Related projects/proposals
[edit ]- Wikivoyage phrasebooks — an option, as stated above, would be transwiki.
Domain names
[edit ]- Initially perhaps https://www.phrasebooks.wikimedia.org and then for a domain, wikiphrasebooks.org or wikiphrasebook.org
Mailing list links
[edit ]None at the moment
Demos
[edit ]Not, as far as I know
People interested
[edit ]- SelfieCity (talk)
- Rajeeb (talk!)
- Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 16:05, 20 October 2019 (UTC) [reply ]
- Molandfreak (talk) 20:00, 3 April 2021 (UTC) [reply ]
Discussion
[edit ]- Well, this is a brilliant idea... despite the fact that it exists in Wikivoyage and apparently wiktionary according to Pppery's statement. A phrasebook would not only be useful for traveling, but for schooling and etc... however, people might find it easier to use google translate and find out the phrase. Competing with that is hard enough. It is ad-free, compact and takes much less loading time, not to mention the pronunciation assistant. Even if this website gets successfully published, it would remain unknown to most. Arep Ticous 17:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC) [reply ]
- Oppose Oppose as redundant to Wiktionary. * Pppery * it has begun 03:07, 16 August 2019 (UTC) [reply ]
- A phrasebook translates phrases; a dictionary defines words. SelfieCity (talk) 00:00, 24 August 2019 (UTC) [reply ]
- But Wiktionary already includes an phrasebook. * Pppery * it has begun 23:14, 26 August 2019 (UTC) [reply ]
- A phrasebook translates phrases; a dictionary defines words. SelfieCity (talk) 00:00, 24 August 2019 (UTC) [reply ]
- What I'm not seeing there, however, is an article for phrasebooks with a page designated for each language. I'm just seeing directories that link to more dictionary definitions. That's not the point here. Could you provide me with a more specific link? Thank you. SelfieCity (talk) 20:30, 12 September 2019 (UTC) [reply ]
- Oppose Oppose This is redundant to Wiktionary and Wikivoyage and maybe even parts of the learning modules of Wikibooks and Wikiversity. —Justin (koavf) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:29, 24 September 2019 (UTC) [reply ]
- Oppose Oppose ChristianSW (talk) 16:54, 1 January 2020 (UTC) [reply ]
- This nomination of mine should probably be withdrawn due to lack of support. SelfieCity (talk) 19:54, 2 January 2020 (UTC) [reply ]
- Oppose Oppose: Wikisource, Wikiquote, Wiktionary. BoldLuis (talk) 00:37, 2 May 2020 (UTC) [reply ]
- Strong oppose - Per everyone above. Arthurfan828 (talk) 20:30, 18 May 2020 (UTC) [reply ]
- @SelfieCity: Can't this be covered by Wikivoyages? Wikivoyages in all languages are providing phrasebooks in several languages. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 13:00, 27 October 2020 (UTC) [reply ]
- Probably best to withdraw this request. At the time I thought it was a neat idea but it seems like a destabilizing change to other wikis now I think about it more. SelfieCity (talk) 15:46, 26 November 2020 (UTC) [reply ]
- Strong oppose Basically Wikivoyage. Random Wikimedian (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:40, 25 February 2021.
- Oppose Oppose per Pppery. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:46, 1 March 2021 (UTC) [reply ]
(削除) Support Support It's been demonstrated that Wikivoyage is not willing to host phrasebooks that are deemed out of scope. See [1] [2] for more information. I do think the Esperanto conversation was very poorly handled (the closing admin should never be the same as the opening admin, for one thing, and why not afford the same courtesy as the Ido page and userfy it?), but it still demonstrates a gap in coverage that could be filled.--Molandfreak (talk) 19:58, 3 April 2021 (UTC) (削除ここまで)[reply ]- @Molandfreak Yes, the discussion closure was improper. What do you think about using Wikibooks though? It (I only really know about the English version though) has a good number of language-related resources already. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:23, 3 April 2021 (UTC) [reply ]
- @1234qwer1234qwer4: That sounds like a reasonable alternative. Striking my vote.--Molandfreak (talk) 23:01, 3 April 2021 (UTC) [reply ]
- @Molandfreak Yes, the discussion closure was improper. What do you think about using Wikibooks though? It (I only really know about the English version though) has a good number of language-related resources already. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:23, 3 April 2021 (UTC) [reply ]
- As I’ve said before, I’d prefer to withdraw this request if possible. At the time I wasn’t fully aware of the scope of the WMF projects and unless there are others interested in this idea, I don’t mind if the nomination is removed. I Oppose Oppose. SelfieCity (talk) 17:45, 7 June 2021 (UTC) [reply ]