Talk:Wikilegal/Database Rights
We welcome your comments and questions! Big thanks to Lukas Mezger/Gnom for his work on early drafts, and Elaine Wallace for her help in polishing and finishing it. -LVilla (WMF) (talk) 02:43, 8 November 2013 (UTC) Reply
- Thank you for preparing this. Very useful for helping folks understand the topic. Cheers. Aude (talk) 09:13, 8 November 2013 (UTC) Reply
- Yes, thank you. People have expressed widely differing views on this subject, so hopefully this will make it easier for us to reach consensus. --Avenue (talk) 12:40, 9 November 2013 (UTC) Reply
- Thank you from me too. I have linked to this on the Wikidata:Project_chat page. Filceolaire (talk) 22:50, 11 November 2013 (UTC) Reply
Other systematic extracts
I have a question arising from the last sentence on the page, i.e. "For EU databases, bots or other automated ways of extracting data should also be avoided because of the Directive’s prohibition on "repeated and systematic extraction" of even insubstantial amounts of data." There are many systematic editing efforts that do not involve automation, such as editors working their way through a shared checklist. Should extracting data from EU databases in such ways also be avoided? --Avenue (talk) 11:17, 10 November 2013 (UTC) Reply
- The Database Directive defines extraction as "transfer ... to another medium ... by any means" (Article 7.2(a)). In other words, it does not discriminate between automated extraction and manual extraction. -LVilla (WMF) (talk) 20:21, 11 November 2013 (UTC) Reply
A guideline for libraries in Germany
A good resource in German language might be
- Till Kreutzer (2011): Open Data – Freigabe von Daten aus Bibliothekskatalogen [1] – A guideline created for one of Germany's largest library cooperative discussing the legal aspects (w:Copyright law of the_European Union, w:Database Directive, w:Open data) of re-use of library catalogue data. The legal basis of and possible traps in European database laws are covered quite in detail. -- Make (talk) 05:31, 28 November 2013 (UTC) Reply
No way to go out of this grey situation ?
Could you please give some exeamples of document we can used to ask some agreement to database managers in order to extract some data from their databases ? This document says that we have to avoid to extract and import data without any agreement but if we want to find an agreement, what do we need to do, to ask and in which terms ? Snipre (talk) 20:17, 12 December 2013 (UTC) Reply