Toolserver/New accounts

• The toolservers are under the legal responsibility of Wikimedia Deutschland, and their use is restricted according to EU and German laws.
• On a day to day basis, decisions about users who will receive accounts are delegated to DaB
• At present, the toolservers do not have direct access to page text, due to Wikimedia's use of external storage clusters. Requests to run projects which depend upon fetching a lot of page text might be postponed.

We need to know

• Who you are. Please provide a link to your user page on your home wiki project; we can follow this and poke about a bit to find out who we're dealing with, e.g. check your involvement in projects, etc.
• Why you want an account. A short description of what you want to do is needed, and any links to existing sample projects or code, or even working utilities, are very useful.

I am a programmer from Alaska. My Blog

I would like to create a simple personal learning app - would find the top 100 articles that the user hadn't read, and allow them to tag the articles as being read, interesting, uninteresting, etc. Would make suggestions based on past experience with articles. Would allow someone to read only the entries that probably interest them.

Developing a fine-grained REST statistics service for pages as a complement to Zachte's coarse-gained stats. Also supplying overlays of these statistics onto content pages, i.e. background color varying as the number of editors since text introduction. -- 03:00 1 November 2005 UTC (Note, copied over here from old rev of old page after being dropped from that page.

Sorry, that your request was lost. But to be honest: I don not understand what you plan to do. Can you please say it with more simply words again please? --DaB. 21:30, 20 September 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

I'm interested in doing a tool to find the adding of specific text (who added that?, in which revision?). When it was recently added, there's no much trouble, but if you try to find who added this recently deleted image several months ago... you can become mad ;) I have little experience on MW code (they rejected bugzilla:5763 i may do it when i felt free enough). However, i have played a bit with extracting information [1] [2] [3] and JS [4]. Ah, and i run a bot when i'm in mood of then revising its changes. Platonides 17:11, 12 June 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

That sounds nice, but a lack of simple access to page text might hamper your ability to do this. How would you work around that? robchurch | talk 01:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

Oh, i wasn't realizing that Daniel Kinzler == Duesentrieb. It's really a problem, as we're stuck on WikiProxy with the external storage problem. However, the Toolserver is still the better way to perform it. Would a limit time between queries need to be enforced? (it seems robust enough but it's better to have things secured) Platonides 22:11, 19 June 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

You don't seem to have thought out the implementation with respect to the problems. robchurch | talk 16:32, 23 June 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

The algorithm is pretty clear. That the get revision text step can't be done asking the DB but need to ask the WikiProxy is not a big change. It's more a Toolserver's problem than user's one. Moreover, the WikiProxy first looks into the text table, only asking through HTTP if it's not locally available. I don't understand what you mean. That could be achieved through other methods, like JavaScript, but in no way better. Platonides 16:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

My point is that WikiProxy is fine for requesting a few pages every so often. For applications which depend upon continuously fetching and comparing page text, it's usually better to use a database dump. Incidentally, that it is "a toolserver problem" is fairly germane; yes, it is a problem, and yes, we are trying to work out how to fix it, but we also expect some co-operation from our users. Excessive resource usage leads to processes and queries being killed; it's the same on any multi-user system. robchurch | talk 16:08, 2 July 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

A database dump is fine if you want statistics, not if you want data about live wikipedia. So you would still need fetching the last week or so. I'm not sure if wikiproxy/db page retrieving already handles it or if it would need to be added at application layer. However, these dumps would only be available for large wikis (define large as you want: by dump size, number of revisions, number of tool queries...). Platonides

It seems the same feature was requested years ago at bugzilla:639. Can it be tried, instead of having theoretic arguments? Platonides 22:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

I'd like to request a toolserver account for the purpose of creating pages to perform queries against the En database for some common tasks that people are interested in like determining edit counts, finding pages created by by a particular user, finding all articles containing a particular style error, detecting copyright violations, and so on, as well as for performing ad hoc queries to answer specific questions. Such queries would be carefully optimized and spaced in time to minimize performance impact. Deco 19:23, 28 June 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

How do you plan on

1. "finding all articles containing a particular style error"
2. "detecting copyright violations"

efficiently? robchurch | talk 01:55, 29 June 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

Please note that at this time, article text is not available in the toolserver database. If you want to work on the fulltext of many articles, you will have to process a dump. If fulltext is only required for relatively few pages, WikiProxy can be used to fetch it live, but this is comparitively slow. -- Duesentrieb 13:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

Hi!

I hereby request a toolserver account for some things:

• I want to use my commons mover on toolserver after User:Duesentrieb looked over the code
• I want to develop together with Cool Cat a script wich daily gets the images used on the main pages of the 10 major wikis and protects their image pages on Commons to prevent vandalism and reuploads (especially by the Penis vandal)
• And I want to code a tool which checks all new pages made by IPs on dewiki against copyvios via CopyScape.
• And at final I want to code a tool which checks vote legitimations for votes on dewiki so that no one needs to care if the users vote is legit or not.

Best regards, Klever 18:11, 7 July 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

Why auto-protect them? To replace a image, the user must be autoconfirmed (or pass a similar account-oldness). For the same cost, they could completely edit many Main Pages. I'd vote for a image-watching advising such replacements (on #wikimedia-commons?) which are supposed to be very rare or the whoole system wouldn't make sense.

Be careful with the vote legitimations, to avoid false warnings on simple comments.

Platonides 20:53, 10 September 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

The auto-protect was cool cat's idea. and in dewp, vote comments are illegal in vote section. greets, HardDisk 19:26, 16 September 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

The user is informed, that his request is moved to the future. 
Thats not a reject, but I have to watched the user (and his code) for longer. --DaB. 21:20, 20 September 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

Hello, I would absolutely love to have an account, I want something special I can do, and I would love to develop tools. I understand the rules and am looking forward to developing tools for the Wikimedia project. If you have any questions, please contact me at en:User talk:Minun, cheers Minun 19:44, 30 July 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

Please, reread When requesting. You're not saying Why you want an account so you have little chance to get it. Platonides 21:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

I'd like to help out other users, and take special parts in the project, and this is one of them. I've been thinking of a couple of ideas too. I have thought of perhaps a signature generator, and a user page generator, and some more advanced tools include a barnstar generator, and much more. Cheers Minun 18:53, 6 August 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

Hello, Please first write down what you like to do. Because I need something to decide :). --DaB. 14:05, 7 August 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

I would just be mainly taking a special part in the projects, here are some thoughs I made. Here are a few tools for users who make their personal content (user page, talk page, siganature, etc...)

• A user page (and talk page) design generator
• A signature generator

and I also have this tool in my mind

• A barnstar generator (kinda like what users can use to make theirt own barnstars)

These are just what im thinking of, I will probably be able to make much more Minun 18:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

Those don't require database access or processing time on another server. 86.134.49.147 15:40, 21 August 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

Please note that en:User:Minun has been blocked for one year by ruling of the arbitration committee. TDS 01:58, 24 August 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

Its been appealed so please wait if your here to reject it for that exact reason, but nevertheless, I can still work on it before it gets lifted.

Now, regarding the anonymous user's question, i've scrapped the idea of the image generator as that may not require such use, but I will still keep the idea of the signature generator and the userpage one. I've also thought of a new one, its a tool that can sniff things they can do to improve, one for normal users to find out if their ready to be an administrator, which can sniff if someones reverted that users contributions, if that person needs to do more stuff, example discussions, deletion discussions, etc... and lots more. Minun 15:06, 30 August 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

Of course neither I nor the toolserver is under the controll of the en:-arbitration-Board. But the things you do would resultated in a block on each project I know. So you have lose the huged part of the trust of communitis and so I can't image that someone would use your tools. So I think the request is going to wait until the trust in you is back and/or the block is finish. --DaB. 21:29, 20 September 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

I want to delete the stuff that is pointless and should not be there.

A little bit more information would be nice :). --DaB. 20:07, 13 January 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

I run Zorglbot on en-wiki; among other tasks, the bot parses en:Special:Shortpages, then retrieves and parses all pages mentioned there. The end result is stored at en:User:Zorglbot/Shortpages, and allow editors to know which pages still require processing (revert vandalism, speedy delete empty pages, etc), or which ones are legitimate (short disambiguation pages, etc). This works relatively smoothly, except for two things: en:Special:Shortpages is quite expensive to make and so is cached and updated only about every 2-4 days; in addition, it returns only the 1000 shortest pages.

If this is possible, once the replication lag for en-wiki will be below 4 days, I'd like to run this tool on the toolserver. I understand that since the text of pages is not directly available on the toolserver, the actual parsing of the pages will still require to fetch the pages from en-wiki (possibly through the WikiProxy); however, being able to bypass the cache would be a huge improvement, in particular for vandalism fighting. Schutz 20:59, 18 January 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

en is not replicated at the moment because of overloading. But we get a new server in the near future for en. Should I give you an account now or then? --DaB. 20:24, 18 February 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

I can wait until then (... and I could not do anything for now anyway :-) Thanks, Schutz 13:44, 25 February 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

I running the german Wikipedia MP3-Podcast and an automatically gernerated OGG-RSS-Feed for spoken articles at de:Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Gesprochene_Wikipedia/RSS-Feed. I host all of the services on my own server, causing me 6GB of monthly traffic and the need for approx. 2GB disk space. (only for german podcast) I have all together approx. 50.0000 monthly hits and about 150 listeners to the german MP3-Podcast. I'd like to expand my services to the international wikipedia. Beside hosting of the nesecessary scripts, causing 1GB Traffic and consuming about 0.5GB disk space (for a very short time audio converison cache OGG->WAV->MP3), I like to host MP3 versions of the original OGG versions of spoken articles somewhere (not nescessary on Toolserver). You will find more Information in German on my discussion page at de:Benutzer_Diskussion:Jokannes#Toolserveraccount. de:User:Jokannes 19:19, 19 January 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

I am a programmer from Czech republic skilled in PHP, MySQL and Java. I would like to create a system compatible with wiktionary which would solve the biggest problems of current wiktionaries. I am collectiong feature requests from wiktionary sysops and b'crats. After I have draft of the system I would like to start to test the new system on your server. After the system is stable we will move the scripts and database onto real wiktionary servers. I have created statistics for English wiktionary entries http://wiki.webz.cz/wikt.png Wikipedia interlanguage links http://wiki.webz.cz/wiki.png and OmegaWiki http://wiki.webz.cz/wz.png

Here is a preview of the new system: http://wiki.webz.cz/new/ http://wiki.webz.cz/new/entry.html

New system will use many new methods like validating of suggested entries and importing of data so the database of definitions and translations will grow very quickly.

As spoken yesterday: It's not possible to host such a software at the toolserver for legal risen. --DaB. 20:23, 18 February 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

I am programmer; bureaucrat and checkuser on bs wiki with more than 14000 edits. I know PHP and MySQL, and I would use account on toolserver primary for IRC bot that's used for #wikipedia-bs channel on irc.freenode.net. Btw, I'm running bot on bs.wiki who has done some important major edits, and has more than 23000 of them :) There might be some useful edit counts or other stuff for bs.wiki. Till now I've had account on server run by sr:User:Millosh who has an account on wikimedia toolserver. I would appreciate account on toolserver, which would surely be useful. --Emx 16:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

I am programmer; sysop on id wikipedia, I would use account on tollserver for IRC bot that's use for #id.wikipedia on irc.wikimedia.org. to welcome bot and reset sendbox (id:Wikipedia:Bak pasir programe use clean_sandbox.py i modify), bot i used id:User:TottyBot. thx. --Jagawana 13:02, 22 February 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

I am a programmer on en-wiki; I wrote some code that takes logs from the linkwatcher bot on IRC and parses them into forms like this. I'd really like to be able to automate this to the point where the program automatically checks for new logs (which get sent out through e-mail every day or so), so that I can get them up more reliably. I can upload the source code (perl) on request; I also might use it for other anti-spam-related projects. Veinor 00:14, 23 February 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

Further introduction need not be necessary, I think.

I recently started working on CGI-programming using the Python Wikipediabot framework. I just now created a tool to show the Dutch recentchanges page ordered by user instead of by date. Ideas for the future are to make this available for other languages as well and to make an interface for dealing with disambiguation pages. I would like to use the toolserver to enable others to use these tools. The first version of my tool (simple but working) is at http://pywikipediabot.cvs.sourceforge.net/pywikipediabot/pywikipedia/rcsort.py?view=log. - Andre Engels 11:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

I am a young professional interested in improving the ease-of-distribution of free content. Gmaxwell, using the toolserver, installed JOrbisPlayer to play Ogg Vorbis files hosted on WMF servers in-browser. (Mozart example.) In a similar vein, I intend to install, facilitate multi-language translation, and maintain a copy of iTheora (GNU) to play Ogg Theora in-browser. I still need to research how to create a local cached copy for iTheroa playback in light of Wikimedia's distributed server framework. I have had a good experience with a test iTheora installation, and remain open to suggestions and feedback. Thanks, GChriss 21:03, 26 February 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

I'm currently developing a simple wizard to assist people in determining the copyright status of a creative work. This wizard asks some simple questions and gives back an advice if it is permitted that the creative work (such as an image) is uploaded on Commons and local projects. Right now it's a simple PHP application but this might be expandable with a database containing more questions. A working example of the project is viewable at my own domain. The wizard is in Dutch but it is the intention to translate the questions to many other languages (the code is already written to accommodate this) and add an explanation with every question. Husky 14:07, 3 March 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

Hi, I'm canuckid and I'm working on writing a bot for wikipedia and also some tools. The bot will simply go around wikipedia and help out with some tasks that people will be able to request for from a web interface (with some protection, of course). I think the bot will be helpful to wikipedians, but the problem is, I don't have a computer and webserver to leave on all the time for the bot, so that's why I'm asking here. By the Way, You won't get much information out of me from my talk page because I don't really like to just pour my personal information out into the internet, so if you have any questions, leave a message on my talk page and I'll get back to you. One more thing :P I don't have a user on the meta-wiki, so I'm writing this through my IP address. Check my user page for a confirmation that I am indeed canuckid. 12.227.160.225 14:37, 3 March 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

Hi, I'm Er Komandante, a sysop on es wikipedia. I have developed a few bots (and I have planned to develop a few more in the future), the first of them controls the new pages and marks tests and evident rubbish to be speedydeleted. Another one I want to run is a copy of en:User:AntiVandalBot; both are working (and they have been recently authorized by the es.wikipedia community) on es:Usuario:BOTpolicia. I'd like to install this bots in tools because I would like to keep them running 24 horus a day (I am running the bots in a laptop and I can't keep it turned on all the day). I also have planned to run some other bots, for example a versión of this one, to track the requests for deletion. Thanks in advance. Er Komandante 23:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

I would like to request a toolserver account to create and host a few tools which I believe would be beneficial to most Wikimedia projects.

• Users with < 10 edits identifier and notifier
• Statistical analysis of projects
• Statistical analysis of vandalism
• Statistical analysis of users contributions

While these would mainly be suited for enwiki while replication lag is still halted I could develop it and I am sure many other wikis would like to use the tools. I am also an administrator on the Wikimedia Commons and have many edits to enwikipedia. Lcarsdata 17:58, 5 March 2007 (UTC) [reply ]

I would like to request a toolserver account to create tool to find uncategorized templates (since fi:user:Mzlla disappeared) and most likely to generate other template-related tools in future. About myself: I'm fiwiki admin and have wide knowledge of PHP and MySQL (actually I have worked as developer for five years, mostly using PHP and MySQL while working). --Agony 09:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC) [reply ]