User talk:Steinbach

Hoj Caesarion, iech höb eve aan dien gebroekersjpazjena gezete, aangezeens te miech gezag houws dat iech dat maog... :-) Cicero 22:50, 13 July 2005 (UTC) Reply

Whutta-waye? Thankye f'elpin es witte Norfuk peedya. May 'prekiate. Pallmall 05:51, 16 October 2005 (UTC).Reply

Hoj HaafLimbo,

I was just wondering if you knew what happened to the /old/ Venet request. I wanted to copy the support votes to the new request, or some other attempt at unifying them, but I can't seem to find it! --Node ue 09:13, 16 October 2005 (UTC) Reply

Hi Caesarion,

can I ask you as a regular contributor of meta? The Ripuarian language request has been moved back and forth by anonymous IPs, and I wonder: who decides when it is approved, and what does it need? Because the discussion is not ongoing, it has 14 supporters, so ...? Are we allowed to put it back on the approved page (where it was before)?

Thank you! Dbach 19:06, 24 October 2005 (UTC) Reply

Hi Dbach! The concept of the "approved requests" page in new, and it is used quite loosely - there are no real rules for it. The main reason not to label it "approved", of course, is that some people oppose it. On the other hand, it is not the community but the Board who decides whether a Wikipedia is created, and while it will take some time, I think they will in the end, surely since there is such a good test wiki. so my advice is: be patient. Caesarion Velim, non opto 22:32, 24 October 2005 (UTC) Reply

I read that you are registered in the test wiki, and you said something about another writing system that is more lendig itself to dutch literate readers and writers. Since I am kind of unhappy with many ambiguities in the spelling used by most, presently, I would like to suggest a different one that is more ore less an extension of that documented at Klefs website. It has many similarities with dutch spelling, so it seems, but does not suffice.

During the next few day, a first incomplete draft is uploaded. Investigating dutch and limburgs orthography which I not know well enough yet, probably may help to fill the gaps. It is a pitty, I could not find any Article written in the orthography, that you prefer, so I have not had any materials for comparisons. -- Miss van der Roehe 13:18, 25 October 2005 (UTC) Reply

Hi Miss van der Rohe! Well, Ripuarian is only spoken in a very small area in the Netherlands, in the town of Kerkrade and a few villages, so I think I am as yet the only contributor who uses that spelling @ all. And indeed, I haven't written any article yet, just because I was afraid of some chaos and confusion this would cause. Anyway, if you want to know more about the Dutch based Kerkrade spelling, just ask me! Caesarion Velim, non opto 15:31, 25 October 2005 (UTC) Reply

Hi Caesarion! Danke für deine Nachricht! Well, all of the concerns I mentioned about Zlatiborian in my first statement are still valid and they haven't changed. "Neutral" is by no means "Support". However, one must realize that we are already applying special standards to language in former Yugoslavia. In other words: with bs, hr, sr we already allow seperate wikis for not really separate languages (which is probably less than ideal but reflects a political and social reality). With respect to this special background, it think the question if only variants of Serbo-Croatian that are now declared official languages of independent countries should be entitled to separate Wikipedias is worth being considered. But once again, the language situation in former Yugoslavia is so twisted that the way we are trying to cope with it cannot serve as a model for other countries/languages - wouldn't you agree with me here? Thus, my vote on the Zlatiborian issue can not really be compared with votes on other proposals.
Now for Ripurian and Bavarian: I have stated my reasons on User talk:Miss van der Roehe a couple of weeks ago. Actually, we've been through this before ;-) I think we are both strong advocates of multilingualism at Wikipedia, the only difference being that we're sometimes drawing the line between "language" and "dialect" in slightly different places. But that's absolutely no problem. On top of that - I can't repeat it enough - I will always respect clear majorities and you'll never see me trying to block anything that a clear majority of users want just because I don't like it personally. I've made my point, I've cast my vote and if a majority prefers something different that's perfectly fine - at least that's how I understand being part of a community. Ups, so viel wollte ich gar nicht schreiben ... Arbeo 10:48, 6 November 2005 (UTC) Reply

Hi Caesarion!

I noticed your interest in Romany Wikipedia (Test phase). Now it's ready to launch and I made some updates in the discussion page. See if you have some comments.

Thanks for pointing this out! Unfortunately, I don't speak Romany... Caesarion 17:25, 21 December 2005 (UTC) Reply

Hi Caesarion,

Thank you for your opinion and support for South Azeri wikipedia (AZS), it is open and very clear.