Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Larger suggestions/Improve speed at which InternetArchiveBot archives links
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Improve speed at which InternetArchiveBot archives links
- Problem: citations suffer linkrot and arent archived quickly enough
- Proposed solution: have an automatic bot that archives links straight away that is built into the automatic citations bit
- Who would benefit: everyone who uses citations
- More comments: I already know that it is done automatically eventually, however, I feel that it is too slow
- Phabricator tickets:
- Proposer: HoHo3143 (talk) 22:28, 23 January 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Discussion
- I think an argument can be made that this would be an outstanding redundancy in times and places where news media and even academia may be an enemy of the state. Such a robust automatic backup could insure that versions of events and information is retained before a take down can occur. Not that it is necessarily overly common, but in an ever changing geopolitical landscape, there is a certain utility to automatic duplicates. Foxtrot620 (talk) 02:33, 24 January 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- @HoHo3143: I've retitled this to make it clearer and more general. I hope the new title accurately reflects your intention. Note that you can manually submit pages to have the InternetArchiveBot process them (not that that necessarily solves your issue, but it's a useful workaround). There are also other tools such as the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine browser extension which allow instance archiving of any page or URL. SWilson (WMF) (talk) 03:50, 24 January 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- May be there would be some tools to automatically archive pages to Internet Archive and add archiver link into the article. Thingofme (talk) 09:22, 24 January 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- @Thingofme: Isn't that what the InternetArchiveBot is though? SWilson (WMF) (talk) 01:14, 25 January 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- @HoHo3143 Pinging again in case the above question was missed. We're wondering if the manual archiving tool meets your needs, since it gives you a way to fetch archive URLs in real-time, should the bot have not processed recently enough.
- I worry "making InternetArchiveBot go faster" may be out of scope. The bot is wholly maintained by a volunteer, and from we understand it already edits essentially as quickly as it can. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 21:42, 3 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Ok thank you for letting me know. There are large numbers of sources which haven't yet been archived so I thought why not suggest speeding it up. If this isn't possible as it is volunteer based, that is ok. HoHo3143 (talk) 04:25, 4 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- May be there would be some tools to automatically archive pages to Internet Archive and add archiver link into the article. Thingofme (talk) 09:22, 24 January 2023 (UTC) [reply ]