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Linux has the penguin. MySQL has the dolphin. O'Reilly has a whole zoo. Every successful open source / open content project seems to have a mascot - should Wikipedia have a mascot in addition to the logo?

No mascot, please!

If you don't want a mascot

  • Support: 21 Youandme (his POV: words embracing the Earth is enough and it is a beautiful logo, especially on Meta) -- Fonzy (now i think about it I dont think WIkipedia should have a mascot) -- Paullusmagnus (Mascots have an inherent playfulness in them that is fine for most projects, but dangerous ground for an encylcopedia) -- Neolux (as per Paullusmagnus, also if there are too many different "brands" for the one concept, there is a risk of losing the identity of the concept all together. Is wikipedia represented by the logo, by the mascot, by the word itself, by the square quotes...? Stick to one brand and utilise that to it's full potential.) --Buxul the square quotes and a logo are enough -- Gutza (see Paullusmagnus, plus: Why? What's the real use of a mascot? Also see my comments on the talk page) -- Tali -- Fruggo -- Wolfram -- Elrond Nólatári -- Gkl -- Ruiz 08:54, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC) -- Andrewlevine 05:48, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC) -- Ich (The Encyclopedia Britannica doesn't have one, but it's got a symbol (the thistle) and seems to have done pretty well.) -- Nealmcb, Hapsiainen -- Frazzydee -- mascot serves no purpose/an animal popular or recognizable in one culture may be tabboo, feared or unrecognized in another.Pedant 23:31, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC) --Ascánder 23:52, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC) --68.64.9.10 01:22, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC) --81.229.227.212 15:18, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC) -- user:zanimum

Moved out: (削除) Sverdrup (Symbols are better, esp with the international nature of Wikipedia in though) (削除ここまで) Redecided, I want a mascot ✏ Sverdrup 15:05, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

  • Rationale: The Wikipedia logo already beautifully conveys the earth itself, and diverse human cultures around the globe, as the "mascot" of Wikipedia. A different mascot would compete with the logo and dilute the value of the Wikipedia brand.

Mascot, please!

If you want a mascot.

It could be used in the logo, printed on T-shirts or kept as a housepet. But what should it be? A fish, a bird, an insect, a mammal, a reptile, a virus? This page is for collecting ideas. At any time, feel free to express your support for a particular mascot by putting your name under it.

It would probably be nice if the mascot somehow represented the spirit of Wikipedia, e.g.:

  • social
  • massively cooperative
  • controversial
  • chaotic
  • growing
  • ambitious
  • infectious
  • curious

Mascot Name Once the mascot is chosen, a name may need to be given to it see: Wikipedia mascot/name

Suggested mascots This is en:Approval voting so you can add your name next to as many choices as you want.

Alphabetical order

Please keep entries in alphabetical order so that people can easily find and refer to potential mascots. Please do not add new options unless you get them seconded by one other Wikipedian. The current options are:

  1. amoeba
  2. Anglerfish
  3. beaver
  4. centipede
  5. coyote
  6. Goatse
  7. honeybees
  8. leafcutter ants
  9. meerkat
  10. mice
  11. monkey with typewriter
  12. octopus
  13. otter
  14. owl
  15. platypus
  16. puzzle piece
  17. Pythia
  18. sand puppy
  19. serpiente
  20. slime mold
  21. Tardigrade / Tardígrado
  22. termites

Amoeba

  • Rationale: I don't know if it's being used by another GNU project, but I really like an amoeba for mascot. It is chaotic, it is growing, becoming something that nobody could know cooperating with other amoebas, it could be infectious, curious and very social.
  • Image: I don't have it, but I will like an amoeba with glasses.

"Please do not add new options unless you get them seconded by one other Wikipedian." Sorry for not following the instructions.


Anglerfish

  • I think the mascot should be one of those tripped-out deepsea fish with the glowing ball of light. Wiki the Anglerfish, bringing light to the depths of the vast ocean of human knowledge. Yah, thatd be tite. User:Lir


beaver

File:Wikibeaver design.PNG
design by Zanimum

  • Rationale:
    • build dams, sociable, beneficial to the environment, instrumental in creating habitats for many aquatic organisms, maintaining the water table at an appropriate level and controlling flooding and erosion, nocturnal, extremely productive (like us)


Centipede

(the "Wikipede")


Stevertigo's updated sketch ( Larger version )

  • Support: 32

203.129.195.132 12:15, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC) snoyes -- Maveric149 (compare en:centipede and en:millipede) -- Sannse -- Elian -- Enchanter -- Ducker -- ILVI -- Jazmin --- TakuyaMurata -- Marumari -- Stephen Gilbert (forget the bees; I want a Stevertigo-drawn Wikipede, baby!) -- MyRedDice (Stephen convinced me of the merits of this, and Stevert's sketch is just so cute) -- Ashibaka (haha, yeah) -- Nichtich -- Kwekubo -- aravindet -- Webkid -- Nanobug (yeah, bugs!) -- Stan Shebs -- Cjmnyc -- Angela -- Kalki -- Fantasy-- MattE -- Fuzheado 08:10, 7 Sep 2003 (UTC) -- CyberMaus (Converted bee-lover thinks Stevertigo's concept is super) -- Nolendil -- Dori -- Marley -- Jeff8765 -- 69.209.243.232 02:23, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC) [[[User:Ilyanep]]](coming from a guy) such a cute sketch (the one to the right with the centipede reading the books caught my attention) Tmh -- [2] -- Kraut1138 (the mate gourd really does it for me) -- ✏ Sverdrup 15:07, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC), Stevertigos concept is very good -- --194.158.209.57 23:23, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC) great --

Concept by Jay Bowks on the wikipedia mailing list (recognise the "W" shape):

  • Rationale: legs co-operate, great (disarmingly cute) images. Controversial (not Disneyish). Very agile and can bend this way or that to get past obstacles. Centipedes will fight off bigger insects or spiders, will decimate cockroaches. Millipedes can roll themselves into a tight little ball when threatened and avoid injury and at times roll speedily away from danger. "wikipede" is a nice pun.
  • Problems: negative/creepy connotations for some (see images above) - drawings are good though. Do they co-operate enough? Name "Wikipede" hard to internationalise.


Coyote

  • Rationale: Coyotes are curious (will investigate human activity when they roam into residential areas); controversial (farmers and ranchers tend to hate them but other people like them); growing (the range of coyote territory has expanded greatly in recent years and keeps expanding); cooperative (in the way they raise pups and hunt together to bring down animals they couldn't kill alone); ambitious in their search for food and in tackling animals much larger than themselves; and social in the way they vocalize to communicate with other coyotes and travel in packs. (You could also call them infectious, but coyotes don't get rabies as often as domestic dogs.) And yes, coyotes are very cute and good to draw.

Photographs - [6] [7]

  • Why a coyote when you could have a wolf? -- samsara


Honey bees

  • Support: 10 Mahongue -- Yann -- Elian -- Fantasy -- MarcS -- MyRedDice -- User:AstroNomer (though I don't like very much the particular honeybee now displayed, there should be a second "design" vote) -- Lorenzarius (The idea is very good, as the WikiBees can represent the natures of Wikipedia quite well: lots of hardworking bees gather honey(knowledge) and bring it back to the nest(Wikipedia) to service all the other bees. It would be better if there're more sketches.) -- Cimon Avaro on a pogo stick (like the ants, this is touch and go; hardworking but also drones and hoarders) -- Cjmnyc --
  • Rationale: Work cooperatively, have a Queen (Jimbo rules!), collect nectar (collect info), take that back to the hive, and turn that into honey (articles). Very positive symbol. Wikipedia resembles a humming hive of busy workers making something beautiful (honey=free quality information resource). Bees communicate well with each other, and there is some evidence that they work with a type of collective intelligence. The nectar collection also pollinates flowers so that they can reproduce. See en:Honeybee, [8], [9]
  • Problems: They sting. Some people are allergic and/or afraid of them. Not very cute (unless drawn cartoony as above). Done to death elsewhere? The 'honey pot' is in english. Bah.

Leaf-cutter ants (and Miwiki project)


http://www.edunetconnect.com/cat/rainf/images/leafcutt.gif

or



Miwiki*, designed specially for Wikipedia

  • Support: 33

Maveric149 (second choice - Go Wikipede!) -- User:Anthere (I can't help it) -- Stephen Gilbert -- Ducker -- Nicolas -- MicAttAck (or a regular ant?) -- Menchi (tiny, but powerful!) -- Cimon Avaro on a pogo stick (on balance yes, but hesitantly) -- MB (This is perfect, or the bee, but definately an insect) -- Oliezekat (i started to design an alternate ant [[10]] that i had named 'Miwiki') -- Paullusmagnus (Ants are serious and can't be made to look cute, besides having many Wikipedian characteristics) -- Fantasy -- Looxix -- Med (great artwork olie) -- Teresag (I don't know, Pm, Miwiki is kind of cute. The ant is appropos; industrious & controversial (Are they good or bad? Do they build or bite? Or both?).) -- Traroth (Ants are hard workers and collaborative. And Miwiki is cute !) -- Ryan Cable -- Toby Bartels -- Sorsis -- —Eloquence -- Aoineko (2 ants may be better) -- Kurt Jansson -- Ebricca -- ArnoLagrange (Miwiki a été battue au concours de logos mais elle a sa place comme mascotte) -- User:LittleDan -- Vincent Ramos ??????? -- Piolinfax (1st choice) but I'd rather like a lot of them (maybe leaving a intermingled track of colourful lettres behind) -- Erik Zachte Well, actually I favour the Ant Colony, which as Hofstadter taught us, is a superanimal, rather loosely structured though, with all its 'body cells' crawling around. But ant will do. -- Hemmer -- Anthony DiPierro -- Aphaia -- TJ (definitely a better name than wikipede, and I like the concept better, too) -- EnginGunduz --

  • Rationale: collaborative, hard working, strength in numbers. Images - [11], [12], [13] (one ant could be carrying a cut leaf in the shape of a W)

Ant's are the ueber-cooperative animals. They work together for a common goal, they are most important to any forrest they are in. with their multiple feet ant antennae they are bound to make a good picture as a mascot much like the centipede that reads. An ant would be the perfect Wiki-Pet :-)

(*) Miwiki is an artwork of french workgroup on french Wikipedia. All products about Miwiki on fr:Utilisateur:Oliezekat/Miwiki and discuss fr:Discussion Utilisateur:Oliezekat/Miwiki.

Miwiki was suggested on several logos, such as :

(n°3) File:Fourmi(s).jpg (n°17) (n°132)


Meerkat

  • Support: 6 Maveric149 (read why the meerkat would be a great choice here) -- Cassini -- GGano -- Menchi (it's so odd and cute!) -- Cimon Avaro on a pogo stick (actually there is a meerkat-like critter in Southern Africa that builds these massive pointy mounds, that would be my suggestion. Does anyone know what animal I mean?) -- Angela

One support vote from Finland, just adorable meerkat. -- user:128.214.205.5

Should unsigned anons be counted? -- user:zanimum
    • Stevertigo - I like this animal... Kinda racconish, with a lot of weasel in it :) so i did some sketches
  • Problem: O'Reilly already uses this for their meerkat service. http://www.oreillynet.com/meerkat/
    • Well, O'Reilly uses so many animals... Would it really be problem? I really like the idea of a meerkat. They are cute, cooperative animals, and at times a little strange. -- Costyn
  • different problem The Lion King has a meercat... do we want Disney horning in on this?
  • it looks creepy

Mice

  • Rationale: There are mice everywhere there are Wikipedians. Reference to the Hitchikers Guide to galaxy.

monkey behind a typewriter

see: en:Infinite monkey theorem

http://pl.wikipedia.org/upload/6/60/Wojpob.jpg

  • Rationale: "10,000 monkeys with 10,000 typewriters will never produce Shakespeare" [17]
    • He has actually already endorsed Wikpedia, see here.
      • Sure he has, I originally came to Wikipedia by following that very link! My objection was just on the grounds that it's his site that I think of when I think of monkeys and typewriters. But, of course, whatever we choose is likely to be somewhere else. 'Twas just that this one happens to be one of my favourite sites :) -- sannse 18:57 Feb 26, 2003 (UTC)
    • Wheaton is just using the old idea of an infinite number of monkeys working at an infinite number of typewriters banging out a copy of Hamlet. It's used many places. -- Stephen Gilbert

There used to be a monkey logo at Logo suggestions--humorous logos, however the images were stored offsite and have vanished.

That one, along with most of the others, are back. If anyone has copies of the missing ones, please upload them.

I agree strongly with the symbols evocked higher, but this would be so fun I cannont resist to be pro Jul

If the monkey is chosen, it would look best typing with its feet! Not only would it be funny (even funnier than a regular old monkey), it would be a good reason for explaining why Wikipedia isn't perfect.

I think that the monkeys working on it would be a definite show of the collaboration in the process of creating the wikipedia. Of course, thousands of monkeys, in addition to writing shakespeare also produce a fair amount of crap. I don't really like the idea of having a mascot at all; I feel a photograph, such as the one given, would be better. It would function as a graphic illustrating the wikipedia, not some kind of cutesy mascot that makes it look unprofessional.

Support. 24.190.96.44 14:43, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Octopus

  • Support: 4 Angela - Piolinfax (My second choice. Anyway, I wouldn't make an schematic octopus but a massive-like, full of tangles tentacles maybe with colourful letters as suckers) - TJ (2nd choice, though the lack of a better picture is a bit unfortunate) - Lapinmies (Octopussy fucking rules, man! I don't know how to add a link to my userpage :I )

[source for info on octopus www.germantown.k12.il.us/html/octopus.html [ first hit in google for octopus]but ideas already developed by me.] - Tmh I like that picture enough :)

  • The octopus has a soft body with a well-developed brain, similar to a human's. It is known to be very intelligent.[ Analogy- wikipedia- amorphous/ undefined/ ambiguous body and intelligent mind]
  • Octopi hunt primarily at night or on dark dreary days, thus this is the best time to see them out and about[Analogy- wikipedians? moonlighting [ I think that's what Westerners call working on alternate job at night?]
  • The octopus seizes its prey with its eight long arms. These arms bear two rows of suckers each. The hundreds of suckers that line their arms help the octopus to hold on to almost anything.[ Analogy- no explanations necessary- wikipedians grab on to lots of info and there is no corner unreached, second important reason why I suggested this mascot]
  • Octopus head= wikipedia, tentacles= wikipedians.If an octopus loses one of its tentacles, it will soon grow another one in the same place.[ Analogy- most important reason why I chose octopus for wikipedia- bad users are banned- new ones are taken in, good ones are retained... and so on- there is an element of regeneration and constant renewal, and the idea of the whole being more than [and more important than] the sum of its parts]
  • minus points- is there an element of cruelty in the catching of prey and tentacles?
  • Octopus is like a spider. Google is using a spider. Spider collects information and octopus could do the same. But Wikipedia's mascot shouldn't be spider coz it's already used idea.

Will work on a graphic for the above, an octopus will look cute abstracted KRS

KRS

Otter

  • Rationale: There are several species, but perhaps freshwater (river) otters might be the best choice. They embody all of the qualities listed above with perhaps special emphasis on playful and curious. The appearance and behavior is appealing at least to humans and other otters, and though rather incompatible with an orderly environment due to their playfulness and curiosity, they are not known to be vicious, hostile, or agressive. Regrettably, unlike centipedes or milipedes, they have only a few feet, thus not stressing the "...pedia" aspect of Wikipedia. Perhaps this could be remedied by adopting an appropriate name, eg Pede, the Otter? Public domain images, a la those used by O'Reilly Publishers for their covers might be appropriate, or perhaps a cartoon akin in spirit to that used for Tux (the Linux mascot) would be better. Artists are invited to have a go. The aspect to be emphasized in such a cartoon otter is a impish curiosity, with perhaps a touch of satisfaction at recent excellent meal of insufficiently quick fish or newly found understanding.
  • Support:
  • Points in favor:
  • Oppose:
  • Problems:

Owl

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:Xrx140YOBNwC:www.callawaygardens.com/tosee/bop/images/great-horned-owl.jpg

  • Rationale: An old symbol for knowledge and searching for facts. An owl head could easily be integrated in the logotype. Maybe boring but respected and traditional. The eyebrows could form a W shape too.
  • Problems: Encyclopedia.com and Wikinfo use a cartoon owl as their logos. Also, owls work alone.
    • Owls aren't actually all that intelligent, I've heard. -- Kwekubo
  • Overused!!! 63.155.186.52 03:27 25 Mar 2003 (UTC)
  • Owl = knowledge as opposed to understanding, dogma, static, opposite of Wikipedia? -- samsara

Platypus

http://www.totcity.com/Parents/preschool/Coloring_book/In_the_ocean/platypus/platypus.gif http://www.julbox.net/platypus.gif (please backup somewhere else)

source : http://www.funet.fi/pub/Linux/doc/logos/

  • Rationale: It most resembles "an animal designed by committee"
  • Problems: The en:Darwin kernel uses a Donald Duck look-alike platypus named Hexley. Also, the Gnu has been remarked upon as an animal most likely built by committee, and it's an old free-software joke.

Puzzle piece

A new mascot idea (with the puzzle globe): the wikipedia puzzle piece. Like this one:

Tillwe 20:11, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC) I like the above idea, looks like puzzle pieces are people holding hands... but I voted no mascot Pedant Something similar from Spanish Wikipedia, by Comae.


  • Support: 4

Tillwe -- Drbug(original) -- Ankur (Can be made a lil more cute, Demonstrates collaboration, related to Logo, Human like and yet a puzzle piece, Simple to redesign or animate, colourful RGB the primary colours, shades of RGB can be adopted by wikipedia for the main page, moving forward together, what not... :-) -- \Mikez 10:34, 10 May 2004 (UTC) (I was going to vote 'no mascot' - but then I saw this one. ;)[reply ]

spirit of Wikipedia social, cooperative, growing.

Pythia

  • Pythia was the all-seeing oracle. JWSurf 17:55, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • Sibyl is almost as nerdishly obscure as Pythia, but due to my familiarity with the unsavory character "Sibil" in Jack Vance's book Araminta Station, I would not like "Sybil" as the mascot. The name "Cassandra" is too commonly used. JWSurf 19:27, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
    • Well Cassandra was my favourite female character from the Aeneid but since she was always correct but was never believed, she might not be the best choice as Wikipedia mascot. -- Derek Ross

against: wikipedia is the reverse of the oracle

Sand Puppy

Concept art. Imagine more of them scurrying about.

(a.k.a. the "Naked mole rat")

  • Rationale: Social and massively cooperative. Busy, chaotic colonies. Not easily contained (can chew through concrete). A mammalian alternative to ants and bees. Sand puppy sounds friendlier than naked mole rat.
  • Problems: Not cute. Nearly blind.

La Serpiente

El movimiento forma parte de la energía y de lo más íntimo de la materia: El movimiento es la energía y la materia.

Todas las capacidades y expectativas del conocimiento humano permanecen ligadas a la idea de movimiento.

La mascota que sugiero es la serpiente que mira una onda senoidal que representa el movimiento y al mismo tiempo la representa a ella misma.

Además la serpiente es femenina, como se intuye el futuro, y está estrechamente ligada al pasado del conocimiento de la humanidad (El Edén, Egipto, la medicina...)

En la representación, la fusión de la serpiente con los ejes cartesianos sugiere la unión entre las líneas rectas y curvas, la cruz y la luna, es decir la herencia del conocimiento de occidente unido con la de oriente.

please, if you ́re able translate this into english, thanks, the author

[Here the translation into English]

Serpent, movement is part of the energy and most intimately of the matter: The movement is the energy and the matter.

All the capacities and expectations of the human knowledge remain bound to the movement idea.

The mascot that I suggest is the serpent that watches a sine wave that represents the movement and at the same time it represents herself.

In addition the serpent is feminine [in some cultures: note of the translator], as it is intuited the future, and closely is bound to the past of knowledge of humanity (Eden, Egypt, medicine...)

In the representation, the fusion of the serpent with the cartesian axes suggests the union between the straight and curved lines, the cross and the moon, meaning the inheritance of the knowledge of the West united with the one of east.

slime mold

Tardigrade / Tardígrado

The Tardigrade is the strongest animal ever. Don't we want our ideology to be deathless? Don't have the image yet, but you can look about this animal here in wikipedia.

El Tardígrado es el animal más fuerte de todos. ¿No queremos acaso que nuestra ideología perdure? Aún no tengo la imagen, pero pueden averiguar sobre este animal aquí en wikipedia.

Termites

  • Rationale: Termites are co-operative animals. In some ways we are like them in our work on the House of Intellectual Property. They are so maligned that there is little chance that anyone has chosen them as a mascot before.
  • Problems: Termites are known as destroyers, not builders. -- Stephen Gilbert
    • I recently found this impressive termite home[18] which seems to prove the opposite ;-) --Elian
      • Oh sure, termites are tremendous builders, but that's not commonly associated with them. I simply said they're known as destroyers. People tend to think of termites infesting buildings rather than building impressive structures. I like to think that Wikipedia is fighting repressive notions of "intellectual properity" by building something better, not by undermining what already exists. -- Stephen Gilbert

Amorphous blob

  • "Wikipedia", the Amorphous blob!

KI.jpg

El movimiento forma parte de la energía y de lo más íntimo de la materia: El movimiento es la energía y la materia.

Todas las capacidades y expectativas del conocimiento humano permanecen ligadas a la idea de movimiento.

La mascota que sugiero es la serpiente que mira una onda senoidal que representa el movimiento y al mismo tiempo la representa a ella misma.

Además la serpiente es femenina, como se intuye el futuro, y está estrechamente ligada al pasado del conocimiento de la humanidad (El Edén, Egipto, la medicina...)

En la representación, la fusión de la serpiente con los ejes cartesianos sugiere la unión entre las líneas rectas y curvas, la cruz y la luna, es decir la herencia del conocimiento de occidente unido con la de oriente.

please, if you ́re able translate this into english, thanks, the author

[Here the translation into English]

Serpent, movement is part of the energy and most intimately of the matter: The movement is the energy and the matter.

All the capacities and expectations of the human knowledge remain bound to the movement idea.

The mascot that I suggest is the serpent that watches a sine wave that represents the movement and at the same time it represents herself.

In addition the serpent is feminine [in some cultures: note of the translator], as it is intuited the future, and closely is bound to the past of knowledge of humanity (Eden, Egypt, medicine...)

In the representation, the fusion of the serpent with the cartesian axes suggests the union between the straight and curved lines, the cross and the moon, meaning the inheritance of the knowledge of the West united with the one of east.

slime mold

Tardigrade / Tardígrado

The Tardigrade is the strongest animal ever. Don't we want our ideology to be deathless? Don't have the image yet, but you can look about this animal here in wikipedia.

El Tardígrado es el animal más fuerte de todos. ¿No queremos acaso que nuestra ideología perdure? Aún no tengo la imagen, pero pueden averiguar sobre este animal aquí en wikipedia.

Termites

  • Rationale: Termites are co-operative animals. In some ways we are like them in our work on the House of Intellectual Property. They are so maligned that there is little chance that anyone has chosen them as a mascot before.
  • Problems: Termites are known as destroyers, not builders. -- Stephen Gilbert
    • I recently found this impressive termite home[19] which seems to prove the opposite ;-) --Elian
      • Oh sure, termites are tremendous builders, but that's not commonly associated with them. I simply said they're known as destroyers. People tend to think of termites infesting buildings rather than building impressive structures. I like to think that Wikipedia is fighting repressive notions of "intellectual properity" by building something better, not by undermining what already exists. -- Stephen Gilbert

Amorphous blob

  • "Wikipedia", the Amorphous blob!

Autofellatio man

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