Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Citations/Prompt for page number(s) for compatible cite sources (e.g. book, journal): Difference between revisions
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Prompt for page number(s) for compatible cite sources (e.g. book, journal)
- Problem: People often forget to add page numbers, making it more time-consuming to verify information for readers and editors.
- Proposed solution: Prompt for page numbers in Visual Editor when adding a source type with page numbers, like book or report. Similarly prompt for time-stamp for audio-visual sources
- Who would benefit: Editors, readers
- More comments:
- Phabricator tickets: phab:T216817
- Proposer: Femke (talk) 21:26, 24 January 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Discussion
- With this, make it easier to add page numbers for quotations. For instance, I might be citing a book throughout, but some sections are from a certain page or chapter. There should only be one reference, but the citations can provide the page numbers. I see too many people making individual references for each page number or leaving out page numbers altogether. Both cause problems. Significa liberdade (talk) 21:32, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
Voting
- Support Support Tom Ja (talk) 21:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support Magnoliasouth (talk) 22:43, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support Chetvorno (talk) 22:45, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support NMaia (talk) 23:18, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support The Phabricator ticket mock-up would definitely encourage adding page numbers and time stamps before clicking insert. As for avoiding separate citations to different portions of the same book/video, the associated parameters should have their description text altered to outright instruct this point. For example, changing the Cite book template's "Page(s) cited" description to use a parenthetical plural for "The range(s) of pages in the source that support the content (not an indication of the number of pages in the source); displays after 'pp.'; use either page= or pages=, but not both", encouraging distinct ranges to be used in the same citation BluePenguin18 🐧 ( 💬 ) 23:22, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support ARandomName123 (talk) 23:57, 10 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support It is time consuming to use harvsp or sfn to indicate page numbers and create one ref per page. Skimel (talk) 00:22, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support --NGC 54 (talk|contribs) 00:41, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support Especially for articles with highly contestable sections (including one that would be targeted for fake news and other kinds of misinformation/disinformation), this quirk will remind editors of the importance to veracity. LunafreyaLaphicet (talk) 00:53, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support 26 Ramadan (talk) 01:45, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support Yeeno (talk) 01:58, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support Only for Template:Cite_book. Open-access journals are popular on wiki, and they frequently don't have page numbers. (They have "article numbers" instead, and you don't need to know the article number to find the article.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support Lalalalala7 (talk) 02:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support XtexChooser (talk) 02:36, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support * Pppery * it has begun 03:45, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support Kirche (talk) 04:40, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support EpicPupper (talk) 05:12, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support Libcub (talk) 05:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support Soumendrak (talk) 06:18, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support St. Andrews Drive (talk) 07:13, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support Doktor Züm (talk) 07:20, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]
- Support Support Jurbop (talk) 07:26, 11 February 2023 (UTC) [reply ]