Grants talk:Project/AminMDMA/Promoting health literacy globally through Wikipedia-editing assignments in health professional schools: Difference between revisions
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The goals are extremely generic, I can't tell what is actually coming out of this. --Nemo 14:17, 16 February 2018 (UTC) Reply
Eligibility confirmed, round 1 2018
We've confirmed your proposal is eligible for round 1 2018 review. Please feel free to ask questions and make changes to this proposal as discussions continue during the community comments period, through March 12, 2018.
The committee's formal review for round 1 2018 will occur March 13-March 26, 2018. New grants will be announced April 27, 2018. See the schedule for more details.
Questions? Contact us.--Marti (WMF) (talk) 02:19, 17 February 2018 (UTC) Reply
RfC about Osmosis videos
Hi Marti, some concern has been expressed on the English Wikipedia about Osmosis videos, and how it came about that they were added to articles. Discussions at WikiProject Medicine (permalink); RfC; Jimbo talk. Pinging SandyGeorgia and Colin to make them aware of this grant request for 100,000ドル from Osmosis and AminMDMA. SarahSV talk 16:30, 29 March 2018 (UTC) Reply
- Some serious problems have been revealed in this partnership, and a number of their videos uploaded to Commons and linked so far on en.wikipedia have factual errors, poor sourcing, and limited evidence of expert medical review. The emerging view of their work so far is that they have benefitted more from using Wikipedia than Wikipedia has benefitted from partnering with them. Considering the errors that have been uncovered in reviewing some of their work, it is not clear that they are an appropriate resource for "editing assignments in health professional schools". SandyGeorgia (talk) 17:21, 29 March 2018 (UTC) Reply
- Instructional videos are extremely hard to get right, especially for a multilingual and neutral project like Wikipedia. You'd need to prepare the script on a wiki, have it go through multiple rounds of checks for content, structure, language and overall message; then make the subtitles usable and translatable; then everything else that you'd normally think of.
- This other project seems to be about something easier to get right that videos, but I'm not sure because it's very unclear what it is about. It might just be about submitting 50 articles to some experts for review and editing, or it might be about something completely different that I've not understood. --Nemo 17:52, 29 March 2018 (UTC) Reply
Grant wording
- "We intend to grow the pool of editors of Wikipedia’s health-related topics by expanding Wikipedia-editing opportunities for health professional students in their educational settings. We will also study these activities to: 1) identify best practices for Wikipedia editing in health professions, and 2) advance the science of creating open-access health content through crowd-sourcing approaches."
I also do not see how a group (Osmosis) that scarcely participates in editing Wikipedia, and that evidences little understanding of core policies, guidelines and sourcing requirements can help advance best practices for editing Wikipedia. I do see the benefit to them, in terms of moneymaking potential, but I do not see the benefit to Wikipedia of advancing a partnership where inexperienced editors guide other inexperienced editors. SandyGeorgia (talk) 19:09, 29 March 2018 (UTC) Reply
- AminMDMA has 33 edits in mainspace, and examination reveals that many of them are reverted or require correction. SandyGeorgia (talk) 19:32, 29 March 2018 (UTC) Reply
- The education program established that student editors don't stick around when their courses end. SarahSV talk 19:42, 29 March 2018 (UTC) Reply