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== MediaWiki releases, again ==
== overwrite the section and insert it into a permanent location ==
Hi, thank you for your hard work creating tech news. Looking through the archives, it seems like this was [[Talk:Tech/News/Archives/2024#MediaWiki releases are no longer mentioned in Tech News|previously mentioned]] so I'm a little late, but I would like to request that a link to the new MediaWiki release is added to the newsletter (maybe I'm missing it? If it already exists, it needs to be made more obvious).
Hello, I wanted to ask whether you can overwrite the current section and insert it into a permanent location [[User:Woelle ffm|Woelle ffm]] ([[User talk:Woelle ffm|talk]]) 11:00, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
I had found a change to the rights log interface in my editing ([[phab:T369466]]) and could not find it in tech news, so had to find an old issue of tech news with a link to the then-new MediaWiki release and worked from there to find the Phabricator link. I would argue that that is incredibly inefficient and lacks transparency. Thanks, [[User:Sdrqaz|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz|talk]]) 11:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
:I think only custom bots can do that.
:Instead, maybe you can use [[mw:Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion|Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion]] to translude Tech News from another page.
:See [[:en:Template:Latest tech news]] for example. [[User:Cookai1205|'''Cookai''']][[Sulutil:Cookai1205|πͺ]] <sub>([[User talk:Cookai1205|π¬talk]])</sub> 15:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks for bringing this up. It's always good to know that a requested change has more support.
== TRANSLATIONLANGUAGE for new wiki entries ==
:I've mostly been stuck on ''where & how'' exactly to add this in. (I want to get it 'right' immediately, to avoid wasting the time of translators with multiple iterations)
:There's also a [[Talk:Tech/News/Archives/2024#Codex_updates|related request]] to add in recurring mentions of the new [https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/design/codex/+/refs/heads/main/CHANGELOG.md Codex releases] (but that's every-other-week, which is harder to automate, thus adding to my inertia!).
:'''Do you (or anyone) have specific ideas on where to place the link, and how exactly to write it?'''
:I.e. It's potentially semi-complicated to write as prose, because Tech News is usually sent on late Mondays (UTC) and the deployment train is from Tuesday-Thursday. So perhaps a plain link without any prose-context is both best, as well as simplest? Or does it need some prose-context, to help make sense of why it points to a page that is empty until the train starts rolling out?
:I'd prefer not to re-use the old full-sentence version, unless those details are needed for a lot of readers, as it was the most widely specified "not useful" part in the last survey ([[Tech/News/Reader_survey_2024/Results|overview]], and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ATech_News_Reader_Survey_2024.pdf&page=8 specific question]).
:Also, do you (or anyone) have any other recurring-update links that would be helpful to add into Tech News, aside from MediaWiki and Codex?
:E.g. We could have a new recurring point in the section "Updates for technical contributors", that simply says something like:
:* Detailed code updates this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.44/wmf.17|MediaWiki]], <span class="plainlinks">[https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/design/codex/+/refs/heads/main/CHANGELOG.md Codex]</span>.
:Or something else? E.g. a new link in the Footer section? Thoughts welcome. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 01:32, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
::Sorry for the late reply. The recurring point format and wording works for me, or you could put it in the "in depth" section (as for a bit more context, it says why it's blank when you click on it, so that should be OK). I suspect that people just ignore the footer, so that is probably not the best place, in my opinion.{{pb}}To give a bit more context, I don't subscribe to the newsletter (too many messages on my talk page), but find the MediaWiki updates helpful when I notice a change{{snd}}under the current format, by the time the next newsletter comes out announcing changes that have already occurred, that's too late from my perspective. [[User:Sdrqaz|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz|talk]]) 22:53, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
:::Belated thanks for [[Tech/News/2025/10|the change]]; looks good! [[User:Sdrqaz|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz|talk]]) 04:04, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
Hi, @[[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]]. I just thought about this: Should we use <code><nowiki>{{TRANSLATIONLANGUAGE}}</nowiki></code> for the int message in the new wiki entries?
I've submitted [https://bitbucket.org/magnusmanske/geohack/issues/20/patch-for-adding-utm32 a patch] which is necessary to support Danish oblique aerial photography. How do I get it reviewed? --[[User:Ysangkok|ysangkok]] ([[User talk:Ysangkok|talk]]) 20:55, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
Like this: <code><nowiki>{{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia/{{TRANSLATIONLANGUAGE}}}}</nowiki></code> [[User:Cookai1205|'''Cookai''']][[Sulutil:Cookai1205|πͺ]] <sub>([[User talk:Cookai1205|π¬talk]])</sub> 06:44, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
:Hi. I cannot see the contents of that link (without creating an account), so I'm not sure ''when'' you submitted it.
:If it was very recently (in the last few days), and because it's not urgent, then I suggest waiting for a week. He's a very busy volunteer dev, with hundreds of tools!
:If it has been ''more'' than a week, then you might try asking on his usertalkpage (User talk:Magnus Manske).
:For future questions that are not related to Tech News, please ask at the [[Tech]] discussion page. Thanks. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 22:08, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
::I submitted it on January 3rd. I think people can't access it because it is quarantined. I'll try the user talk page. Thanks. --[[User:Ysangkok|ysangkok]] ([[User talk:Ysangkok|talk]]) 22:37, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
'''[[Tech/News/Old issues]]''' - Now you can find here not only on user pages. [[User:Rodrigo|Rodrigo]] ([[User talk:Rodrigo|talk]]) 22:11, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[User:Rodrigo|Rodrigo]]. Thanks for the idea. We do already have a very similar page at [[Tech/News/Archives]]. Do you think we could merge (or redirect) your new pages into that page, or is there some other way to avoid duplicate structures? Thanks. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 22:27, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
::I looked for the archive but haven't found before. I am not sure if the yearly collection has sense when the Search function works properly in the other one. But do what you whant, I am actually cleaning up the longest user talk page ever [[User talk:Chitetskoy]] what filled up with these tech news over the years. [[User:Rodrigo|Rodrigo]] ([[User talk:Rodrigo|talk]]) 22:35, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
::'''The question:''' How to find this Archive from the main page? If no link, can we add? [[User:Rodrigo|Rodrigo]] ([[User talk:Rodrigo|talk]]) 22:38, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
:::It's currently the 2nd link within [[Tech/News#Read|the section]] "Read or advertise Tech News". If that's not clear enough, I guess we potentially could add another link to it, into the list of 5 styled-links near the top? Or maybe the existing link is sufficient, now that you see it! :) [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 22:55, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
Latest revision as of 20:11, 24 March 2025
Hi, thank you for your hard work creating tech news. Looking through the archives, it seems like this was previously mentioned so I'm a little late, but I would like to request that a link to the new MediaWiki release is added to the newsletter (maybe I'm missing it? If it already exists, it needs to be made more obvious).
I had found a change to the rights log interface in my editing (phab:T369466) and could not find it in tech news, so had to find an old issue of tech news with a link to the then-new MediaWiki release and worked from there to find the Phabricator link. I would argue that that is incredibly inefficient and lacks transparency. Thanks, Sdrqaz (talk) 11:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC) Reply
- Thanks for bringing this up. It's always good to know that a requested change has more support.
- I've mostly been stuck on where & how exactly to add this in. (I want to get it 'right' immediately, to avoid wasting the time of translators with multiple iterations)
- There's also a related request to add in recurring mentions of the new Codex releases (but that's every-other-week, which is harder to automate, thus adding to my inertia!).
- Do you (or anyone) have specific ideas on where to place the link, and how exactly to write it?
- I.e. It's potentially semi-complicated to write as prose, because Tech News is usually sent on late Mondays (UTC) and the deployment train is from Tuesday-Thursday. So perhaps a plain link without any prose-context is both best, as well as simplest? Or does it need some prose-context, to help make sense of why it points to a page that is empty until the train starts rolling out?
- I'd prefer not to re-use the old full-sentence version, unless those details are needed for a lot of readers, as it was the most widely specified "not useful" part in the last survey (overview, and specific question).
- Also, do you (or anyone) have any other recurring-update links that would be helpful to add into Tech News, aside from MediaWiki and Codex?
- E.g. We could have a new recurring point in the section "Updates for technical contributors", that simply says something like:
- Or something else? E.g. a new link in the Footer section? Thoughts welcome. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 01:32, 15 February 2025 (UTC) Reply
- Sorry for the late reply. The recurring point format and wording works for me, or you could put it in the "in depth" section (as for a bit more context, it says why it's blank when you click on it, so that should be OK). I suspect that people just ignore the footer, so that is probably not the best place, in my opinion.To give a bit more context, I don't subscribe to the newsletter (too many messages on my talk page), but find the MediaWiki updates helpful when I notice a change β under the current format, by the time the next newsletter comes out announcing changes that have already occurred, that's too late from my perspective. Sdrqaz (talk) 22:53, 26 February 2025 (UTC) Reply
- Belated thanks for the change; looks good! Sdrqaz (talk) 04:04, 13 March 2025 (UTC) Reply
I've submitted a patch which is necessary to support Danish oblique aerial photography. How do I get it reviewed? --ysangkok (talk) 20:55, 3 March 2025 (UTC) Reply
- Hi. I cannot see the contents of that link (without creating an account), so I'm not sure when you submitted it.
- If it was very recently (in the last few days), and because it's not urgent, then I suggest waiting for a week. He's a very busy volunteer dev, with hundreds of tools!
- If it has been more than a week, then you might try asking on his usertalkpage (User talk:Magnus Manske).
- For future questions that are not related to Tech News, please ask at the Tech discussion page. Thanks. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 22:08, 3 March 2025 (UTC) Reply
- I submitted it on January 3rd. I think people can't access it because it is quarantined. I'll try the user talk page. Thanks. --ysangkok (talk) 22:37, 3 March 2025 (UTC) Reply
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Tech/News/Old issues - Now you can find here not only on user pages. Rodrigo (talk) 22:11, 10 March 2025 (UTC) Reply
- Hi @Rodrigo. Thanks for the idea. We do already have a very similar page at Tech/News/Archives. Do you think we could merge (or redirect) your new pages into that page, or is there some other way to avoid duplicate structures? Thanks. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 22:27, 10 March 2025 (UTC) Reply
- I looked for the archive but haven't found before. I am not sure if the yearly collection has sense when the Search function works properly in the other one. But do what you whant, I am actually cleaning up the longest user talk page ever User talk:Chitetskoy what filled up with these tech news over the years. Rodrigo (talk) 22:35, 10 March 2025 (UTC) Reply
- The question: How to find this Archive from the main page? If no link, can we add? Rodrigo (talk) 22:38, 10 March 2025 (UTC) Reply
- It's currently the 2nd link within the section "Read or advertise Tech News". If that's not clear enough, I guess we potentially could add another link to it, into the list of 5 styled-links near the top? Or maybe the existing link is sufficient, now that you see it! :) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 22:55, 10 March 2025 (UTC) Reply