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== MediaWiki releases, again ==
== overwrite the section and insert it into a permanent location ==


Hi, thank you for your hard work creating tech news. Looking through the archives, it seems like this was [[Talk:Tech/News/Archives/2024#MediaWiki releases are no longer mentioned in Tech News|previously mentioned]] so I'm a little late, but I would like to request that a link to the new MediaWiki release is added to the newsletter (maybe I'm missing it? If it already exists, it needs to be made more obvious).
Hello, I wanted to ask whether you can overwrite the current section and insert it into a permanent location [[User:Woelle ffm|Woelle ffm]] ([[User talk:Woelle ffm|talk]]) 11:00, 25 November 2024 (UTC)


I had found a change to the rights log interface in my editing ([[phab:T369466]]) and could not find it in tech news, so had to find an old issue of tech news with a link to the then-new MediaWiki release and worked from there to find the Phabricator link. I would argue that that is incredibly inefficient and lacks transparency. Thanks, [[User:Sdrqaz|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz|talk]]) 11:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
:I think only custom bots can do that.
:Instead, maybe you can use [[mw:Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion|Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion]] to translude Tech News from another page.
:See [[:en:Template:Latest tech news]] for example. [[User:Cookai1205|'''Cookai''']][[Sulutil:Cookai1205|πŸͺ]] <sub>([[User talk:Cookai1205|πŸ’¬talk]])</sub> 15:36, 25 November 2024 (UTC)


:Thanks for bringing this up. It's always good to know that a requested change has more support.
== TRANSLATIONLANGUAGE for new wiki entries ==
:I've mostly been stuck on ''where & how'' exactly to add this in. (I want to get it 'right' immediately, to avoid wasting the time of translators with multiple iterations)
:There's also a [[Talk:Tech/News/Archives/2024#Codex_updates|related request]] to add in recurring mentions of the new [https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/design/codex/+/refs/heads/main/CHANGELOG.md Codex releases] (but that's every-other-week, which is harder to automate, thus adding to my inertia!).
:'''Do you (or anyone) have specific ideas on where to place the link, and how exactly to write it?'''
:I.e. It's potentially semi-complicated to write as prose, because Tech News is usually sent on late Mondays (UTC) and the deployment train is from Tuesday-Thursday. So perhaps a plain link without any prose-context is both best, as well as simplest? Or does it need some prose-context, to help make sense of why it points to a page that is empty until the train starts rolling out?
:I'd prefer not to re-use the old full-sentence version, unless those details are needed for a lot of readers, as it was the most widely specified "not useful" part in the last survey ([[Tech/News/Reader_survey_2024/Results|overview]], and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ATech_News_Reader_Survey_2024.pdf&page=8 specific question]).
:Also, do you (or anyone) have any other recurring-update links that would be helpful to add into Tech News, aside from MediaWiki and Codex?
:E.g. We could have a new recurring point in the section "Updates for technical contributors", that simply says something like:
:* Detailed code updates this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.44/wmf.17|MediaWiki]], <span class="plainlinks">[https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/design/codex/+/refs/heads/main/CHANGELOG.md Codex]</span>.
:Or something else? E.g. a new link in the Footer section? Thoughts welcome. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 01:32, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
::Sorry for the late reply. The recurring point format and wording works for me, or you could put it in the "in depth" section (as for a bit more context, it says why it's blank when you click on it, so that should be OK). I suspect that people just ignore the footer, so that is probably not the best place, in my opinion.{{pb}}To give a bit more context, I don't subscribe to the newsletter (too many messages on my talk page), but find the MediaWiki updates helpful when I notice a change{{snd}}under the current format, by the time the next newsletter comes out announcing changes that have already occurred, that's too late from my perspective. [[User:Sdrqaz|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz|talk]]) 22:53, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
:::Belated thanks for [[Tech/News/2025/10|the change]]; looks good! [[User:Sdrqaz|Sdrqaz]] ([[User talk:Sdrqaz|talk]]) 04:04, 13 March 2025 (UTC)


== GeoHack ==
Hi, @[[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]]. I just thought about this: Should we use <code><nowiki>{{TRANSLATIONLANGUAGE}}</nowiki></code> for the int message in the new wiki entries?


I've submitted [https://bitbucket.org/magnusmanske/geohack/issues/20/patch-for-adding-utm32 a patch] which is necessary to support Danish oblique aerial photography. How do I get it reviewed? --[[User:Ysangkok|ysangkok]] ([[User talk:Ysangkok|talk]]) 20:55, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
Like this: <code><nowiki>{{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia/{{TRANSLATIONLANGUAGE}}}}</nowiki></code> [[User:Cookai1205|'''Cookai''']][[Sulutil:Cookai1205|πŸͺ]] <sub>([[User talk:Cookai1205|πŸ’¬talk]])</sub> 06:44, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

:Hi. I cannot see the contents of that link (without creating an account), so I'm not sure ''when'' you submitted it.
:If it was very recently (in the last few days), and because it's not urgent, then I suggest waiting for a week. He's a very busy volunteer dev, with hundreds of tools!
:If it has been ''more'' than a week, then you might try asking on his usertalkpage (User talk:Magnus Manske).
:For future questions that are not related to Tech News, please ask at the [[Tech]] discussion page. Thanks. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 22:08, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
::I submitted it on January 3rd. I think people can't access it because it is quarantined. I'll try the user talk page. Thanks. --[[User:Ysangkok|ysangkok]] ([[User talk:Ysangkok|talk]]) 22:37, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

== Old editions ==

'''[[Tech/News/Old issues]]''' - Now you can find here not only on user pages. [[User:Rodrigo|Rodrigo]] ([[User talk:Rodrigo|talk]]) 22:11, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[User:Rodrigo|Rodrigo]]. Thanks for the idea. We do already have a very similar page at [[Tech/News/Archives]]. Do you think we could merge (or redirect) your new pages into that page, or is there some other way to avoid duplicate structures? Thanks. [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 22:27, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
::I looked for the archive but haven't found before. I am not sure if the yearly collection has sense when the Search function works properly in the other one. But do what you whant, I am actually cleaning up the longest user talk page ever [[User talk:Chitetskoy]] what filled up with these tech news over the years. [[User:Rodrigo|Rodrigo]] ([[User talk:Rodrigo|talk]]) 22:35, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
::'''The question:''' How to find this Archive from the main page? If no link, can we add? [[User:Rodrigo|Rodrigo]] ([[User talk:Rodrigo|talk]]) 22:38, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
:::It's currently the 2nd link within [[Tech/News#Read|the section]] "Read or advertise Tech News". If that's not clear enough, I guess we potentially could add another link to it, into the list of 5 styled-links near the top? Or maybe the existing link is sufficient, now that you see it! :) [[User:Quiddity (WMF)|Quiddity (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Quiddity (WMF)|talk]]) 22:55, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

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MediaWiki releases, again

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Latest comment: 14 days ago 4 comments2 people in discussion

Hi, thank you for your hard work creating tech news. Looking through the archives, it seems like this was previously mentioned so I'm a little late, but I would like to request that a link to the new MediaWiki release is added to the newsletter (maybe I'm missing it? If it already exists, it needs to be made more obvious).

I had found a change to the rights log interface in my editing (phab:T369466) and could not find it in tech news, so had to find an old issue of tech news with a link to the then-new MediaWiki release and worked from there to find the Phabricator link. I would argue that that is incredibly inefficient and lacks transparency. Thanks, Sdrqaz (talk) 11:51, 13 February 2025 (UTC) Reply

Thanks for bringing this up. It's always good to know that a requested change has more support.
I've mostly been stuck on where & how exactly to add this in. (I want to get it 'right' immediately, to avoid wasting the time of translators with multiple iterations)
There's also a related request to add in recurring mentions of the new Codex releases (but that's every-other-week, which is harder to automate, thus adding to my inertia!).
Do you (or anyone) have specific ideas on where to place the link, and how exactly to write it?
I.e. It's potentially semi-complicated to write as prose, because Tech News is usually sent on late Mondays (UTC) and the deployment train is from Tuesday-Thursday. So perhaps a plain link without any prose-context is both best, as well as simplest? Or does it need some prose-context, to help make sense of why it points to a page that is empty until the train starts rolling out?
I'd prefer not to re-use the old full-sentence version, unless those details are needed for a lot of readers, as it was the most widely specified "not useful" part in the last survey (overview, and specific question).
Also, do you (or anyone) have any other recurring-update links that would be helpful to add into Tech News, aside from MediaWiki and Codex?
E.g. We could have a new recurring point in the section "Updates for technical contributors", that simply says something like:
Or something else? E.g. a new link in the Footer section? Thoughts welcome. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 01:32, 15 February 2025 (UTC) Reply
Sorry for the late reply. The recurring point format and wording works for me, or you could put it in the "in depth" section (as for a bit more context, it says why it's blank when you click on it, so that should be OK). I suspect that people just ignore the footer, so that is probably not the best place, in my opinion.To give a bit more context, I don't subscribe to the newsletter (too many messages on my talk page), but find the MediaWiki updates helpful when I notice a change β€“ under the current format, by the time the next newsletter comes out announcing changes that have already occurred, that's too late from my perspective. Sdrqaz (talk) 22:53, 26 February 2025 (UTC) Reply
Belated thanks for the change; looks good! Sdrqaz (talk) 04:04, 13 March 2025 (UTC) Reply

GeoHack

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I've submitted a patch which is necessary to support Danish oblique aerial photography. How do I get it reviewed? --ysangkok (talk) 20:55, 3 March 2025 (UTC) Reply

Hi. I cannot see the contents of that link (without creating an account), so I'm not sure when you submitted it.
If it was very recently (in the last few days), and because it's not urgent, then I suggest waiting for a week. He's a very busy volunteer dev, with hundreds of tools!
If it has been more than a week, then you might try asking on his usertalkpage (User talk:Magnus Manske).
For future questions that are not related to Tech News, please ask at the Tech discussion page. Thanks. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 22:08, 3 March 2025 (UTC) Reply
I submitted it on January 3rd. I think people can't access it because it is quarantined. I'll try the user talk page. Thanks. --ysangkok (talk) 22:37, 3 March 2025 (UTC) Reply

Old editions

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Tech/News/Old issues - Now you can find here not only on user pages. Rodrigo (talk) 22:11, 10 March 2025 (UTC) Reply

Hi @Rodrigo. Thanks for the idea. We do already have a very similar page at Tech/News/Archives. Do you think we could merge (or redirect) your new pages into that page, or is there some other way to avoid duplicate structures? Thanks. Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 22:27, 10 March 2025 (UTC) Reply
I looked for the archive but haven't found before. I am not sure if the yearly collection has sense when the Search function works properly in the other one. But do what you whant, I am actually cleaning up the longest user talk page ever User talk:Chitetskoy what filled up with these tech news over the years. Rodrigo (talk) 22:35, 10 March 2025 (UTC) Reply
The question: How to find this Archive from the main page? If no link, can we add? Rodrigo (talk) 22:38, 10 March 2025 (UTC) Reply
It's currently the 2nd link within the section "Read or advertise Tech News". If that's not clear enough, I guess we potentially could add another link to it, into the list of 5 styled-links near the top? Or maybe the existing link is sufficient, now that you see it! :) Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 22:55, 10 March 2025 (UTC) Reply

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