Ruby (on rails) for Drupal

For any fans of Haml out there, I've submitted a filter module that leverages phpHaml: http://drupal.org/project/haml

Hi guys,

By now I think have read most of the posts that exist regarding differences between RoR and Drupal.
But in practice, which one would you use if you wanted for example to create a website like youTube, where users would be able to form communities, upload and share media files?

My first impression is for Drupal, since in this occassion you would need a strong CMS... But, does anybody have any further suggestions?

Thanks for your time

Hi folks,

What kind of Railish Drupal tools exist? There is Drake (http://drupal.org/project/drake) which I definitely want to check out. What else is there?

Mike

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A lot of people just don't get it. So let us straighten out some confusing matters. So to avoid more FUD.

Don't confuse Ruby with Drupal. Don't think that Ruby on Rails and Drupal can be compared, they cannot. On top of that, they are complementary.

There is Ruby. Ruby is just another programming-language, like Perl, PHP, C or Java. Ruby is one of the newest languages (~14 years old), which -in practice- means it has learned a lot from bad parts of older languages.

There is Ruby on Rails (RoR). This is a system (program) written in the language Ruby. Just like Drupal is written in PHP. But RoR is a framework, not a CMS; With RoR you will have to write your own CMS all by yourself. Drupal already IS a CMS. Ruby on Rails's power (and hype) lies in the fact that writing that complete CMS takes you only a few days, or even just hours. Drupal's power lies in the fact that you don't have to write anything at all.

I've been using Ruby on Rails for at least 18 months, and it is an amazing application framework. However, it's not suitable for all projects. For one thing, hosting is much more demanding and less mature. If you don't have at least 50ドル/month for a VPS or equivalent you are not going to get the reliability you can get with PHP relatively cheaply.

The other thing is that Rails is geared primarily towards applications. In terms of arbitrary functionality, Rails is really the best thing going. It gives the web app developer tools to create raw web interfaces very very efficiently. Probably more efficiently than is even possible in PHP due to Ruby's dynamic language features like method_missing? and dynamic class modification.

Maybe this should be a general "stealing good ideas from other web frameworks" group?

As well as RoR, I'm sure there are plenty of other worthy ideas in Turbogears, CakePHP, Django etc etc. Probably not many Java ones though ;) (just kidding - I work for a Java based outfit)

Using Capistrano for Drupal deploying. Sounds cool, and should be possible. Lets talk about hos this should be done, and if this is feasible.
I plan to drop the sympal-scripts -which, in fact want to be a capistrano-only-for-drupal-in-PHP- in favour of a good working capistrano drupal thingie.