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BonzaiDuck

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In the old days, we traveled around to local dealerships. I'm awaiting my old SUV's return (see my other thread). I had an appointment today to maybe seal a deal and buy a 2025 RAV4 at the dealership 4 miles from my house. I took it for a test drive last week. I canceled, thinking I wanted my car back to make me feel like I had more of an advantage so I could visit other dealers. The price just seemed a bit more than what I wanted to pay.

I feel the need to get this done, but don't want to be in a hurry. Yet I've been shopping around, window shopping, getting familiar for weeks now, and I'd focused on make and model in my online investigations for about a year.

I just found the same model I wanted with an acceptable color at CARVANA. Shipping it to me will cost 590ドル. It has 15,000 miles odo, had been a rental car, still has the active warranty, and the price is right.

Somehow this feels strange to buy a car online. Can anyone tell me what they know about CARVANA? Am I at any risk with this? They can have the car at my home by Wednesday next week.

BonzaiDuck

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Well, I can appreciate any insight members can offer about this, but I will tell you about today's experience.

I was about ready to pull the string to buy a 2025 RAV4 Hybrid LE, 1 owner -- rental agency, 16,000 odo miles for about 35,000ドル out the door including taxes tags and registration. Something bothered me about putting all my own money out there, so I thought I'd use part of my pre-qualified bank loan option. And -- get this! Their own CARVANA financing was at 10%!! That's INSANE!

But I'm entering my data, and finally they say they need my driver's license and my bank-loan papers. Well, I had the license and the papers in PDF format in my document archive on the PC here. OK! I try to upload, and they get rejected -- maybe for resolution, but I don't know. Somehow they were telling me to take pictures with my cellphone. So I did that, and spent a half hour figuring out how to send it to my PC.

By the time a got all that done, I said "F*** it!" I get my old car back from the shop next week. I'm going to shop Enterprise, Avis, Hertz, and I'll visit Toyota again and look at Subaru.

I never realized I would be in this pickle. I WILL get past it!

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Reddit or some other sites had encouraging reviews by people, but the idea of buying a car that way just makes me uncomfortable. The driver license episode was the last straw.
Carvana makes you uncomfortable enough to check out the car rental agencies??? :p How about neither?

Looks like you can get a low-mileage 2023 RAV4 LE for 26ドルk + tax. XLE is a little higher.

AutoTempest is a meta search engine and will locate you plenty of late model units, including some in the Inland Empire (or adjacent counties).

PowerEngineer

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Yes, used car buying in the "old days" was very different. It used to be that the used cars that dealerships offered for sale were mostly ones that they had taken in as trade-ins on new cars. Nowadays, all dealerships seem to be buying and selling cars through auction houses (check the Carfax reports). This was certainly true for the used 2024 Tesla Model Y Performance we bought from a nearby VW dealership. It was one of a half dozen Teslas that their auction buyer purchased for their used car inventory. Seems the buyer was a Tesla disciple. 😊 So far so good with the Tesla...

This leads me to believe that purchasing a car through Carvana, Carmax, or other internet services is not much different from buying from most B&M dealerships. And likely better than Craigslist. But I could be wrong.

With the Tesla in hand, we ended up selling my wife's 2015 Chevrolet Impala to Carmax. Their offered price was better than what I got from the dealerships (including the one that sold us the Tesla) and the sale process was straightforward and hassle free. I would not hesitate to sell a car to them again.

One last thing. You'd be wise to at least look at a Honda CR-V before committing to a RAV4 IMHO.
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I was about ready to pull the string to buy a 2025 RAV4 Hybrid LE, 1 owner -- rental agency, 16,000 odo miles for about 35,000ドル out the door including taxes tags and registration. Something bothered me about putting all my own money out there, so I thought I'd use part of my pre-qualified bank loan option. And -- get this! Their own CARVANA financing was at 10%!! That's INSANE!
Seeing the price you were considering, I gotta make one last plug (pun intended!) for an EV. You can get a new Chevy Equinox EV for 36,495,ドル before California incentives (10,000ドル-12,000ドル to scrap your old vehicle, plus 2000ドル toward a charger or public charging), taxes, tags, and registration. And they're offering 0% financing for 60 months. A used Equinox EV would be about another 10ドルk less, with all the same incentives except the loan rate. Here's a video review of the car if you're on the fence.
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BonzaiDuck

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Yes, used car buying in the "old days" was very different. It used to be that the used cars that dealerships offered for sale were mostly ones that they had taken in as trade-ins on new cars. Nowadays, all dealerships seem to be buying and selling cars through auction houses (check the Carfax reports). This was certainly true for the used 2024 Tesla Model Y Performance we bought from a nearby VW dealership. It was one of a half dozen Teslas that their auction buyer purchased for their used car inventory. Seems the buyer was a Tesla disciple. 😊 So far so good with the Tesla...

This leads me to believe that purchasing a car through Carvana, Carmax, or other internet services is not much different from buying from most B&M dealerships. And likely better than Craigslist. But I could be wrong.

With the Tesla in hand, we ended up selling my wife's 2015 Chevrolet Impala to Carmax. Their offered price was better than what I got from the dealerships (including the one that sold us the Tesla) and the sale process was straightforward and hassle free. I would not hesitate to sell a car to them again.

One last thing. You'd be wise to at least look at a Honda CR-V before committing to a RAV4 IMHO.
Actually, I've turned my focus now to the Subaru Forester in its various incarnations, and I may be inclined to forego a Hybrid drive-train.

But . . .
Seeing the price you were considering, I gotta make one last plug (pun intended!) for an EV. You can get a new Chevy Equinox EV for 36,495,ドル before California incentives (10,000ドル-12,000ドル to scrap your old vehicle, plus 2000ドル toward a charger or public charging), taxes, tags, and registration. And they're offering 0% financing for 60 months. A used Equinox EV would be about another 10ドルk less, with all the same incentives except the loan rate. Here's a video review of the car if you're on the fence.

. . . I still have time to reconsider everything. Of course, I would like to accomplish the desired objective by middle of January, and for obvious reasons.

pauldun170

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Actually, I've turned my focus now to the Subaru Forester in its various incarnations, and I may be inclined to forego a Hybrid drive-train.

But . . .


. . . I still have time to reconsider everything. Of course, I would like to accomplish the desired objective by middle of January, and for obvious reasons.

Just wrapped up and went through comparisons.

CX5 and Rav4 are new for 2026 so you might be able to find deals

Test drove the CX5 (premium plus) and Forester (touring)

The CX-5 was a very nice car and it despite a transmission that makes the car slower than it is I really liked it.
The Forester was new for 2025 is more airy. The CVT makes it seem.punchier than the mazda but they are equally slow.
Forester can be had with a hybrid.
Seats were more comfy in the Forester.

The awd in all the vehicles in this segment are pretty much equal.
Screw you subbie owners. Its over rated and differences between the cars in this class for majority of scenarios is overrated.

BonzaiDuck

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Just wrapped up and went through comparisons.

CX5 and Rav4 are new for 2026 so you might be able to find deals

Test drove the CX5 (premium plus) and Forester (touring)

The CX-5 was a very nice car and it despite a transmission that makes the car slower than it is I really liked it.
The Forester was new for 2025 is more airy. The CVT makes it seem.punchier than the mazda but they are equally slow.
Forester can be had with a hybrid.
Seats were more comfy in the Forester.

The awd in all the vehicles in this segment are pretty much equal.
Screw you subbie owners. Its over rated and differences between the cars in this class for majority of scenarios is overrated.
I found a 2024 full-ICE-powered RAV4 LE at the local dealership's web-site for about 27ドルK and change with AWD but no alloy wheels. 22,000 odo miles. I could drive it off the lot for about 30,000ドル and save up to 10ドルK or 12ドルK over a new 2025. It is "Toyota Gold Certified" with a great CARFAX report - "1 Owner Great Value".

I sent a note to the Toyota rep I'd met two weeks ago. He knows I'll probably drop by the dealership on Saturday.

I should probably take more time looking at the Subaru and other alternatives.

pauldun170

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Good luck..

Definitely get some seat time in all your options as confort varies.

Rav 4 is probably the safest choice for a buy it for life vehicle.
However, the premium gets silly at times when people dont bother to actually take advvantage of the longetivy.

Subaru...not so much. Too many " great car" .followed by list of repairs needed to keep it on the road. Its like you have to budget for surprises at 120k. They do have a following and people are loyal to brands.
Forester is nice package. Outback is a bigger car but a station wagon.
Crosstrek seems to me to be the Subaru that really stands out as something to basically gas and go for the long haul.Not a bad little car.

The CX5, outside of the late teens where cyclinder deactivation caused big headaches and some report of pricey rear diff failures appear to be some well built cars and have joined the 300k to 400k club. Its made in japan

Note: cx50 is a bigger, newer, made in the US vehicle that is like a very minor jump over the CX5.

I'm on an anti Honda kick. Screw Honda. Living off legacy reputation. I guess if it doesnt have the 1.5 turbo then it will be fine.

Other alternatives?
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Good luck..

Definitely get some seat time in all your options as confort varies.

Rav 4 is probably the safest choice for a buy it for life vehicle.
However, the premium gets silly at times when people dont bother to actually take advvantage of the longetivy.

Subaru...not so much. Too many " great car" .followed by list of repairs needed to keep it on the road. Its like you have to budget for surprises at 120k. They do have a following and people are loyal to brands.
Forester is nice package. Outback is a bigger car but a station wagon.
Crosstrek seems to me to be the Subaru that really stands out as something to basically gas and go for the long haul.Not a bad little car.

The CX5, outside of the late teens where cyclinder deactivation caused big headaches and some report of pricey rear diff failures appear to be some well built cars and have joined the 300k to 400k club. Its made in japan

Note: cx50 is a bigger, newer, made in the US vehicle that is like a very minor jump over the CX5.

I'm on an anti Honda kick. Screw Honda. Living off legacy reputation. I guess if it doesnt have the 1.5 turbo then it will be fine.

Other alternatives?

- Good assessment, my 2015 Subaru Forester is kinda a turd but I refuse to let it pass on until 200k miles minimum. Got some basic QOL issues pretty quick with cabin fan bearings, Bluetooth module dying. Closer to 110k it started having some gasket and cooling issues, but a Herculean amount of Stop Leak seems to have put that issue on the back burner for the moment. Lower Control Arms went bad at 120k. Vehicle is at 140k at the moment and trucking.

Old Boxer engine burns through oil and the CVT struggles from time to time to get out of 1st.

My 2021 Crosstrek is just much better built than the 2015 Forrester. I think Subaru entered into a cross licensing agreement with Toyota for a bunch of stuff (primarily for hybrid tech) and their quality in general appears to have improved for it. None of the issues of the 2015 have cropped up as of 65k miles on the 2021 and the car just handles and performs better.

Honda used to be neck and neck with Toyota for quality, but since the pandemic they must have been forced to source from second rate places and their quality has nosedived from the top to the middle of the pack nowadays.

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