User talk:Zackmann08

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1940_New_Hampshire_earthquakes&diff=1366166527&oldid=1366155143 Something similar to what happened with the map parameters is happening with title and name parameters. I'll fix them, but the script needs modifying EmergentAnarchy (talk) 18:16, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Facepalm Facepalm GRRRRRR. Thank you for notifying me. Fixing the script now! Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 18:18, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

It's also affecting pubisher locations https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1687_Peru_earthquake&diff=1366170307&oldid=1366163527 , resulting in stuff like coordinates = Universidad de Talca, Chile EmergentAnarchy (talk) 18:21, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Wow. I'm really killing it this morning... I'm sorry that's a major fuck up on my part. Thank you again for bringing this to my attention. Working on fixing the broken ones right now. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 18:23, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

@EmergentAnarchy: It looks like we got all the ones I dumped into Category:CS1 errors: unsupported parameter... I fixed a number but you obviously beat me to a number of them. Let me know if you find any others. Sorry again about that and genuinely thank you for taking the time to not only fix my error but also to point out, with diffs, exactly where I went wrong. Makes it much easier to prevent the error in the future. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 18:30, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

It's fine. Glad i could help. I think you just need to make sure the script doesn't affect references, if that's possible (assuming you're only intending to edit infoboxes) EmergentAnarchy (talk) 18:45, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

You're totally right, unfortunately that is much easier said that done. Trying to find a way to make that work... Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 20:52, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Is there any way to tell your script to edit only the lead section? That might limit the collateral damage if you can't think of a better way. There are occasionally infoboxes that are not in the lead, but you could handle those in a second pass. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:53, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Unfortunately not. I've experimented with modifying JWB to just attack Infoboxes but have yet to find a good way to do it... User:Qwerfjkl (bot) almost always catches my mistakes, which I immediately fix. In this case, EmergentAnarchy just got there first. Still tweaking and definitely need to find a better solution. To be clear, not making excuses here... At the end of the day I am responsible for every edit I make so need to find a better solution. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 23:56, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

I don't think it's necessary to remove those when swapping out the deprecated parameters. Those maps take a lot of work to create. Dawnseeker2000 19:02, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

They may take time to create, but they add nothing to the article... Take 1979 Coyote Lake earthquake. What is the point of showing where 5 random cities (some hundreds of miles away) are in relation to that Earthquake? There is no other Infobox pushpin map that shows other random city locations in relation to the main event that the article is about. ONLY earthquakes do this. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 20:55, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

They are not random. They are mentioned in the intensity section. Dawnseeker2000 21:05, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

So you feel we need to add random locations to the map because unsourced claims are made in the article of how it felt in these other completely unrelated locations? Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 21:08, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

I don't know why you choosing not to listen. I came to you with a friendly request and you've come back at me with some pretty strange ideas. I reverted your changes on a couple of good articles and then you said they're unsourced and unrelated. I don't know where you got that impression, but for you to just blindly revert after I told you that the locations are used in the article is pretty nuts and could be the basis for a formal complaint.

I'll let it go and restore the ones that I already did a few hours ago. I let the people at WP:Earthquakes know so that they can help out in restoring the map locations when they see them in the future. Or I might just go through all of them myself. I will make sure that the deprecated parameters are fixed up, too. Sorry that our chat ended in a weird way, but again, I came to you with a simple request and it seemed to be ignored on the basis of your misunderstanding. Dawnseeker2000 23:46, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

So a couple of things. You need to understand I am doing a mass cleanup, when you mass revert my changes the pages are ending up back in the maintenance category and being re-done. I am NOT intentionally edit warring with you so for that I do appologize.

That being said, your arguments makes no sense. Take 1980 El Asnam earthquake for example, neither Oran or Algiers are mentioned in the article. What is the point of them being on the map? Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 23:53, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

If you would like to finish cleaning up Category:Pages using infobox earthquake with deprecated parameters (0) I will not edit any further Earthquake pages.... Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 00:00, 27 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

In any event, my cleanup of this Infobox is done. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 05:02, 27 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Hi Zackmann - i saw you rejected a full update of a page of an artists from india recently. could you please help understand the rationale? The existing page is both incomplete/incorrect and would be happy to discuss before making more changes. There is existing proof and validation for the articles. Samikshamo (talk) 20:30, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

What page are you talking about? Can you link me please? Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 21:09, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Parvathi Ravi Ghantasala, roja kannan, jayanthi subramaniam plus i have few others that are connected that i am trying to link. there are more indian artists that i am verifying based on their public national and international credentials. ~2026-42017-03 (talk) 16:41, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

I thought of one in five seconds: {{tl }}. Unless you count the documentation, which I wouldn't call "code". * Pppery * _{in solidarity} 16:24, 27 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

You know, that is TOTALLY fair. I was basing my analysis on what shows up when you view the edit the template. Even {{tl }} has over 30 Module's being called. But your point is totally valid that those are in the documentation, not in the actual template itself. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 23:10, 27 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

[画像:Information icon] There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Harassments and threats from another editor. I wasn't the one who filed, just notifying you as required. Best, Staraction (talk · contribs) 03:06, 28 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Thanks. I saw it. Appreciate you taking the time to notify me since Artemis Andromeda decided they didn't want to. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 03:07, 28 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Thank you, @Zackmann08, for your diligent, objective, and even-handed approach to clean up Wikipedia code and to ensure the site doesn't break — I, for one, am most appreciative. You might not have noticed, but I've been helping out with replacing deprecated template parameters. I exercise due diligence before applying each edit, but should I ever make a mistake and you bring it to my attention, it will always be welcome and met with gratitude.

Thanks again, and keep up the great work.

Regards, Alexanderino (talk) 20:51, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Thank you for your approach Alexanderino. We ALL make mistakes (if I had a nickel for every dumb mistake I've made on here, I could retire and edit full time!). What matters is how you respond when mistakes are made. Keep up the great work and thanks for your kind words. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 22:48, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Hi; are you sure about the deprecated parameters in this template? I only ask because as you can see here , lots of articles state they need attention due to an error (Articles using infobox body of water without pushpin map alt). Does the code need fixing, or is it simply a matter of changing pushpin_alt, to pushpin_map_alt? Thanks. The joy of all things (talk) 18:31, 28 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Sorry, I started correcting them, then realised it might be a bigger issue, so I stopped before it all goes too far. The joy of all things (talk) 18:38, 28 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

@The joy of all things: that is a great catch! Sorry for the delayed response. Been offline all day. Would have fixed it but looks like Jonesey95 beat me to it with this edit. Infobox body of water is an odd one because of the way it uses a custom module to track parameters. Sorry I missed that in my cleanup and thank you for calling it to my attention! Good looking out. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 22:46, 28 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Thanks for the update; glad it's all been sorted. Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 22:50, 28 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Hi, writing to you as I saw that you proposed to use |education= in place of |alma mater= in infoboxes. As {{Infobox model}} still uses "alma mater", I was wondering if it should be changed to "education" as an effect of the RfC. If so, as I frankly do not feel qualified to edit a template, I was wondering if you could do it or if you could direct me to someone who could. Thanks :) BilabialTrill (talk) 18:47, 28 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

It's a template wrapper for {{infobox person }}, so no code changes were needed to the template itself, AFAICT. I have updated the documentation. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:36, 28 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

As Jonesey said, it is a wrapper so will be caught in the cleanup of Infobox person. I've been working on another project so I haven't gotten around to updating the documentation for all these wrappers, but it is on my todo list! Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 22:46, 28 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Just wanted to clarify regarding the edit on the Meknes "image_skyline" in the info box : indent.js automatically converted |Image= and |Location= to lowercase. While infobox parameters are lowercase, "CSS image crop" specifically requires uppercase Image and Location per its template documentation. Converting them to lowercase broke the image rendering. Kurslash (talk) 05:57, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Facepalm Facepalm that wasn't actually indent.js but an overzealous REGEX in my JWB run. Thank you for catching that and brining it to my attention. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 22:52, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Hi – I just wanted to let you know that after your recent edits to the Infobox NRHP template, pages that use it (e.g. this one) are showing deprecation warnings but the documentation hasn’t been updated, so people who get the warning and want to go fix the problem are getting conflicting information. If it’s just a matter of updating the parameter names in the documentation, I’ll be happy to do that (it seems from the above that you’ve very busy :-), but I wasn’t sure whether it should also involve listing the deprecated parameters and their replacements or the like. Joriki (talk) 11:36, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

@Joriki: THANK YOU!!! I thought I had done that but in the midst of so many projects, I literally think I closed a tab before hitting save. Should be all fixed now. Really appreciate the message! Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 22:51, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Hello Zackmann,

I've noticed that we work on a lot of the same things, mainly removing |alma mater= and replacing it with |education= . I have primarily been doing this along with removing deprecated parameters within military infoboxes in the category found here. Just wanted to say thanks for also striving to replace the wording. I'm hoping I can help contribute to this category as well. Thanks.

~~~~ HappyHistorian1862 (talk) 13:50, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Thanks for the help!! Keep up the great work. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 22:51, 29 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Hi, thanks for your edit. Unfortunately it makes the map unusable on default zoom setting, as the area is surrounded by open sea, so you just see a point in a blank area of sea. The previous map format had a better zoom level so you can see the coast and a bit of context. Can you change it? Have experimented with your map formatting but not finding a way to get a sensible zoom level. Blythwood (talk) 04:29, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Investigating... standby Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 04:30, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

@Blythwood: classic case of editing while tired... That was just a dumb typo by me. Needed to be |mapframe-zoom=. I have fixed it. Sorry about that and THANK YOU for catching it and taking the time to bring it to my attention. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 04:32, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Thanks! Blythwood (talk) 04:40, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Any time. Thanks again for catching that. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 04:41, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Hi, Zackmann. It would be very helpful when you deprecate/rename parameters in an infobox template that you fix the /testcases page also. It would be much easier for you (if you have your regexps all set up) to fix them when you fix mainspace articles, as opposed to me manually editing them afterwards . Now I fear we have 100 (?) templates with broken testcases. — hike395 (talk) 08:16, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Facepalm Facepalm That is an oversight to be sure. Will update my workflow and make sure I do that moving forward. Also happy to go back through User:Zackmann08/pp and update the ones I've already done. Will take a little bit to do, but I will add that to my list. Thank you for pointing this out! Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 12:43, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Also, good looking out with Special:Diff/1364530773/1366999373. That is a great catch/addition. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 13:28, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Backyard_Bowl&diff=1366945215&oldid=1344293114 It's replacing title= in citations with name=. I've fixed all the examples EmergentAnarchy (talk) 09:24, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

GRRRRR. This $hit is complicated sometimes... Really appreciate you catching another one. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 12:58, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Would it be possible to protect that text using temporary replacement? For example, put /{{[Cc]ite [\s\S]*?\|\s*(title)\s*=[\s\S]*?}}/ -> PLACEHOLDER_TITLE as the first rule the script executes, and /PLACEHOLDER_TITLE/ -> title as the last one. Crestfalling (talk/contribs) 16:28, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

There are multiple solutions, I just need to pick one and make it happen. Not offering excuses as me breaking stuff is never ok. Need to figure this one out though. SOrry and thanks. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 23:19, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Since you reacted so positively to my last pointer, here are some more :-) A couple of things about the deprecation of alma_mater:

• The deprecation warning at Template:Infobox officeholder contains a typo (from this edit) – it should say "replaced" instead of "replace".
• I think I understand now what "merged with/replaced by" means (merged into education if it exists, otherwise replaced by it), but I had to think about it for a second. To my mind, "merged into" would be clearer than "merged with", and perhaps just saying "use education instead" might be even clearer (and shorter) – that a merge is required if education already exists seems clear enough.
• The warning at Template:Infobox academic only says "which should be merged into education" – I don’t see a reason for the warnings to differ. (I didn’t check any of the other affected infoboxes.)
• The description for the education parameter in the documentation for Template:Infobox officeholder still says: "If insufficient information is available to determine specific credentials attained, the alma mater parameter may be more appropriate."
• The documentation for Template:Infobox_academic still lists alma_mater as a parameter. (Again, I didn’t check any of the other affected infoboxes.)

Joriki (talk) 16:12, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

@Joriki: I've got a lot of balls in the air right now with multiple projects. While I do appreciate you pointing out what needs to be done, documentation pages are not protected and you should feel free to fix it yourself. I do plan to get to this project, just don't have time at the moment. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 23:24, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

OK – I fixed the documentation, i.e. the last two bullet points – the rest is in protected templates. Joriki (talk) 23:40, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Hi Zackmann, I noticed you made a number of edits to NFL rivalry pages regarding infobox parameters, like this. Not sure if this was your intent, but you seem to have removed the pushpin maps that accompanied the infobox, even though you updated content in the map parameters. What were you trying to do with these edits regarding the maps? Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:31, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

@Gonzo fan2007: I'm not Zackmann, but I just updated the template so that everything should be displaying properly now. Thanks for checking this. Crestfalling (talk/contribs) 19:13, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

@Crestfalling: thank you for catching my typo. Seem to be making a lot of those this week... @Gonzo fan2007: sorry about that and thanks for bringing it to my attention! Been offline all day so just now getting back here. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 23:22, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

so yesterday i made a article about a selo Mutoray and i saw that you made a edit in a another village type place in Russia. i want (if you can) to link the article with the wikidata. thanks for helping me Bermensterflora (talk) 20:19, 31 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

never mind i did it Bermensterflora (talk) 06:09, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

I just wanted to let you know that your indent.js tool is worthy of being one of the best tools on the English Wikipedia. Thanks for creating it! Plasticwonder (Cat got your tongue?) 02:34, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

While I appreciate that, I did not create it... You are very kind, but I stand on the shoulders of giants. The credit here goes to User:Frietjes who wrote about 99% of that code. I did the easy stuff. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 03:14, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

How does you indent script differ from User:Frietjes/indent.js, please? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:35, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

The only real difference is in how it is called. My version inserts a few shortcuts including the ability to use the i hotkey to activate it. Mine also takes a MAX_PARAM_LENGTH of 25 and will not indent past that in the case of longer parameter names. It also has special functionality for indenting Infobox templates that will align the |label#= and |data#= parameters. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 13:33, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Thank you. Looks good.

I just tried to use it on Christopher McEwen House, which may be an edge case, and it didn't align as I was expecting. Could you (or User:Frietjes) take a look, please? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:48, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Likewise on Ocaria ocrisia. Does it not act on {{Speciesbox }}? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:52, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

So part of Friejes original script was that if the majority of the lines are in the format | param_name\s=\sparam_value (where \s is a single space), then the indent script will follow that pattern. If you want to change so that all the equal signs line up, the quickest and easiest way to do that is to insert a bunch of spaces between the first few param names and the equals sign. Then when you run the script, you should get what you're expecting. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 17:42, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

That's disappointing, but understood. Thank you. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:37, 3 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Sorry it doesn't work the way you want it to? Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 22:04, 3 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Gollum is pleased. ♥ Thank you! Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 14:36, 1 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

trout Trout. I hope you're hungry. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:04, 2 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Facepalm Facepalm In my defense, that template is SO EFFING COMPLICATED!!! AHHHHH!!!!! Not but seriously, I love trout and greatly appreciate you catching these and fixing them. Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 15:06, 2 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Why does this happen ? at first i thought it was jsut my machine but it seems to be consisten across all machines, sometimes the 'interactive' part is broken, sometimes tha map doesn't display at all.

Do you have an idea what could be causing this ? or know somebody who does ? it would be great if we could ask more technical editors.

Thanks in advance ! Kurslash (talk) 20:17, 3 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Can you point me to a page that is broken? I am not seeing any issues... Zackmann (^{Talk to me} /_{What I been doing} ) 22:03, 3 August 2026 (UTC) Reply