User talk:ToadetteEdit

I'm sorry to say the I am considering departing from the Wikimedia community due to their interactions to me. It is just that, I attempt to collect constructive criticism, but there is a group of editors who are against me in all my proposals and I am not appreciating them. What I mean by "departure" is to disengage in meta areas (noticeboards, requests etc.). I will only edit articles, participating in anti-vandalism, and reviewing drafts. Its so hard to stay in the movement with such group, and therefore I should reduce my activity for good. I will continue to cast votes on Meta and ither locations, but not engage in discussions because of a comment made on meta. I will continue to be a mentor and answer questions sent by mentees.

When the group disappears, I will reconsider returning back to full activity as before, but for now I can't due to the recent comments on the wp:ORCP. I am really really sorry for what I have done. I have been avoiding more sanctions in place but the communuity is looking forward to ban me forever.

That's it, goodbye... ToadetteEdit (talk) 16:25, 29 January 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@ToadetteEdit: Did you not see the kind words that were at your ORCP? Throwing a pity party for yourself and saying you intend to leave is not going to help your cause, nor will said "group", which includes long time editors and admins giving you feedback. You are not unappreciated, folks are just exhausted with the number of requests you're making. Your primary issues come down to patience from my perspective. Folks give you feedback, but you're sometimes too over eager and you get ahead of yourself. Barkeep's advice is absolutely the best thing for you. Keep doing what you're doing, listen and show that you can improve from feedback, and keep your head down. Your efforts are very clearly and obviously well intentioned, and I do not think you're a bad editor. I've seen you make progress, but you need to give time for others to see it as well.

You absolutely can make comments where you see fit, but work on being able to take criticism without beating yourself up too much. It's an incredibly difficult skill to learn, but it's one that can lead to loads of improvements on wiki and in real life. Self improvement is not an overnight thing, but you've improved from where you started, and I know you can keep going, mature a bit, and, with time and patience, show others that as well. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:07, 29 January 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

I saw this by chance. Firstly: taking a break and giving up temporarily is not a bad thing to do, and it's OK to make a mention on your user page. This can be for a few months or even a year/two. I've done that, Josh probably has too, and it's normal. Your message is a bit problematic however, mainly because of your second sentence. And you still have not listened to what I said to you over at MediaWiki, where I said not to do any kind of requesting for the next six months (which has now reset). This is frustrating for me to see, as someone that's kinder than most on people like you. Leaderboard (talk) 17:19, 29 January 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

And I've also had users that seemed to have some sort of weird grudge against me (at least according to my perception!). With experience, you learn to take them in your stride. You'll get there. Leaderboard (talk) 17:21, 29 January 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

"What I mean by "departure" is to disengage in meta areas (noticeboards, requests etc.). I will only edit articles, participating in anti-vandalism, and reviewing drafts."

...so pretty much what everyone was asking you to do? Sounds great! Looking forward to you being a productive member of the community, TE. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:47, 29 January 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

@ToadetteEdit My reply to your request for opinion was (from memory) the first time we have ever interacted. I think it's bad form of you to say that the opposition to you becoming an admin is just a dedicated group following you around blocking you. That's not true in the slightest. You've been given a huge amount of constructive criticism and you need to embrace it rather than ignoring it. Making big posts about how you're being "beaten down as a dog" is, to be blunt, embarrassing and immature. Take the criticism on board instead of reacting emotionally, and work hard on editing for at least 2 years (in my opinion) without requesting anything you don't absolutely need, and THEN maybe apply for admin again if you're really, really desperate. Above all, just have fun positively contributing to Wikipedia. You certainly don't need to be an admin to have a great time here and make a real positive difference. GraziePrego (talk) 23:33, 29 January 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Toadette, I understand your desire to leave, but as someone who you have in mind that likely falls under that "group of editors" when you say "It is just that, I attempt to collect constructive criticism, but there is a group of editors who are against me in all my proposals and I am not appreciating them." Having opposed several of your requests on Meta for good reason, I can't exactly help but mention that this was entirely your undoing. You were told to wait, have an actual need before requesting permissions, but it seems the idea of patience and competence just went out of the window. Starting unpopular discussions or making non-issues into issues on Meta-Wiki and then being shocked that everyone was against your ideas was no one else's fault nor undoing but yours. Were you to have a bit of patience, it would have never gotten this far. --SHB2000 (talk) 00:14, 30 January 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

• ToadetteEdit, at your RfA I mumbled some stuff at you, advice-wise. FTR, I'd like to state that, generally, I've seen only improvements since then. Serial (speculates here) 12:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

ToadetteEdit, it must have been disheartening and disappointing to receive an avalanche of negative feedback. Some of the messages were undoubtedly blunt. When the time comes, if you are feeling better, I hope that you can have an open mind to perhaps modify your expectations and choices for a better future. Whether some negative feedback is constructive or not is sometimes a matter of perspective. I wish you well.

starship.paint (talk / cont) 07:25, 30 January 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Recent events have no doubt been discouraging, but I do hope you take a break (very important when wiki stuff gets too much!!) and come back with a new mindset — you've been given some really great advice by very experienced folx, and I recommend you follow it as you can only improve :)

— TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 15:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

TE, I mean this in the most polite of ways. Last time you went through the request, you followed it with an RfA despite saying you weren't. You said above you were going to stop editing in project space and with requests and I'm enforcing that to end this cycle which is exhausting for you and for the community. You remain free to edit elsewhere and, when you feel you're ready, request an unblock from project space. Star Mississippi 04:15, 1 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

I have never expected a block from ns4. You know, the projectspace can get too hot even when I have cool hands. As with the sanction that I got, it was justified due to myself being too immature and not having enough judgment in determining consensus. Also, the ANI block from more than a year ago was justified because of the unnecessary comments and closures that I had done. Instead of continuing to potentially disrupt the community, I dropped the stick and decided to disengage from the meta discussions and request permissions in a short period of time. When I have enough time, and after learning from all my mistakes, I will return back strong. But that's it for now. ToadetteEdit (talk) 10:12, 1 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

Good. Indefinite is meant to be just that. Until it's no longer needed. Sometimes time-fixed blocks are not ideal and just cause more frustration. Improving articles will help get you where you want to go, not planning to appeal restrictions the minute you're able to so you can continue to attempt leveling up. Star Mississippi 13:23, 1 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]

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