User talk:Thine Antique Pen/Archive 6
DYK for Acropora pharaonis
DYK for Acropora plumosa
DYK for Acropora polystoma
The Signpost: 12 August 2015
- News and notes: Superprotect, one year later; a contentious RfA
Superprotect was a novel page protection level implemented on August 10 last year, without warning.
- In the media: Paid editing; traffic drop; Nicki Minaj
The Atlantic discusses "The Covert World of People Trying to Edit Wikipedia—for Pay".
- Forum: Community voices on paid editing
The community speaks out on paid editing.
- Wikimanía report: Wikimanía 2015, part 2, a community event
Our ongoing Wikimanía coverage.
- Traffic report: Fighting from top to bottom
The charts are led this week by UFC women's champion Ronda Rousey, who won her last match at UFC 190 (#9) in 34 seconds.
- Featured content: Fused lizards, giant mice, and Scottish demons
Watch out for icebergs.
- Technology report: Tech news in brief
Wikimedia technical news.
- Blog: The Hunt for Tirpitz
During World War II, the German battleship Tirpitz was a major threat to Allied convoys travelling across the North Atlantic and Arctic Sea.
Your GA nomination of Hôtel d'Alluye
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Hôtel d'Alluye you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Calvin999 -- Calvin999 (talk) 11:43, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
MV Britannic (1929)
Hello: I'm working on a copy edit of your article MV Britannic (1929) and have left a note on it's Talk Page about a sentence that I feel needs clarification. Regards. Twofingered Typist (talk) 13:18, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
MV Britannic continued
Hello:
I have pretty much completed the copy edit of your article. I do have a few questions/comments which follow, for your consideration.
- White Star Line chose a diesel method of propulsion for the Britannic, despite previously preferring multiple expansion steam engines. I have added that this was because diesel engines were cheaper to operate because they used less fuel. In the "Early Years" segment I removed mention of fuel in favour of "lower operating costs". Puts information in a better order, I think.
- I have added a minor, but necessary, detail for RMS Celtic which will need to be cited. I assume one of your reference books can be used for this.
- In "Early Years" you write: "In 1933, the Britannic was travelling at a speed of 19.5 knots, above its previously-intended speed, and was able to carry 1,103 passengers, the highest number of passengers on board a ship that year." You don’t explain why the ship was traveling at this speed but the implication is this was why it as able to carry 1,103 passengers which I do not understand. If the speed resulted in more voyages surely the number of passengers carried would be much higher. Am I missing something?
- In the "Cunard White Star" section I have assumed engine damage was the issue and said so. I assume there were other reasons for "poor performance" – also assume her performance was measured against Champlain but you don’t indicate how many passengers she carried. Perhaps need to expand and clarify.
- In the WWII section you wrote: "In April and May 1945 the Britannic was responsible for transporting British Canadian women soldiers and their children." Please check how I have re-written this, trying to capture what I think was the case, to make sure I’m correct. I hope the way I phrased it is clearer.
- "Post War" – perhaps explain how the crankshaft was severely damaged?
- "Technical elements" – need to explain why the engine was difficult to run, I think also why was it "received positively"? (I love the idea Britannic had 2 backup canoes!!))
- Interior – were third class passengers designated by a descriptor? Seems likely they were?
I hope this is helpful. Please let me know when you have made the changes you agree are necessary, I will do a final check, and report to the GOCE the edit is complete.
Regards Twofingered Typist (talk) 21:36, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hi @Twofingered Typist:. Thanks for your incredibly helpful and in-depth copyedit.
- I've cited the information on RMS Celtic and hope that I've clarified the information on its speed and passengers (with its fittings at that time, it was able to carry 1,103 passengers per journey). I see the poor performance to be only due to damaged engines.
- I'm unsure how many passengers Champlain carried, other than it being above both Georgic and Britannic; I may try looking into ISBN 9780750956598 but it may take some time. I spotted the Champlain travelling faster than the Britannic as a possible reason for higher passenger figures (around 20 knots, although this source reports the Britannic at 16.5 knots).
- I agree with your changes to the WWII section and I am unsure about how the crankshaft got damaged, but the source mentions the crew hearing "suspicious noises" from the engine room. I've added material explaining why passengers received the diesel engine positively and I think that the third class passengers were simply identified by the accommodation booked in the Britannic.
- I must thank you again for your efforts! Thine Antique Pen (talk) 23:04, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- You're most welcome. I will advise the GOCE is completed. Twofingered Typist (talk) 12:09, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Hôtel d'Alluye
The article Hôtel d'Alluye you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Hôtel d'Alluye for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Calvin999 -- Calvin999 (talk) 19:01, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Perijá tapaculo
I had a look at the article Perijá tapaculo as you requested. I see that it has just become a GA, were you thinking of taking it further, to FA for example? So what did I think about it? Well, I think it is in need of some copyediting. There are places where it needs attention to the pronouns, and others where the phraseology is a bit odd, but in general it seems to adequately cover the topic. An article like this is rather more difficult to write than a straightforward bird article where everything is known about the bird. And the bird straddling the border and living at various altitudes is a bit muddling. You should also pay attention to your conversions, like this one "1,600 and 3,225 m (5,249 and 10,581 ft)" which is a bit over precise. Hope that helps. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:53, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Cwmhiraeth: Hi Cwmhiraeth, thanks for responding. I was thinking of attempting to take it further, hopefully one day to FA status, despite the distinct lack of information on the bird. I've requested a copyedit on the article at the GOCE requests page and appreciate the points you've made; I hope to act upon them soon. To further improve the article I also started a peer review yesterday. Thanks. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 20:42, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Thine Antique Pen: I am currently working on your request. Would you take issue with me Americanizing the spelling? I know that Wikipedia doesn't mind as long as it is keep consistent, but since you seem to be the major contributor to the page, I thought it best to ask you. I will retain the spelling in the meantime, but as I am not fluent in British spelling, I may err. Hampton11235 (talk) 23:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Hampton11235: I think it would be best to keep British spelling. I can fix any inconsistencies that may occur. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 23:51, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Thine Antique Pen: I will keep it then. I should be done with the c/e later today. Hampton11235 (talk) 00:04, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Hampton11235: I think it would be best to keep British spelling. I can fix any inconsistencies that may occur. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 23:51, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Thine Antique Pen: I am currently working on your request. Would you take issue with me Americanizing the spelling? I know that Wikipedia doesn't mind as long as it is keep consistent, but since you seem to be the major contributor to the page, I thought it best to ask you. I will retain the spelling in the meantime, but as I am not fluent in British spelling, I may err. Hampton11235 (talk) 23:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
The Signpost: 19 August 2015
- Op-ed: WP:THREATENING2MEN: The English Wikipedia's misogynist infopolitics and the hegemony of the asshole consensus
Nothing makes Wikipedians more angry than a discussion of gender and feminism on Wikipedia.
- In the media: Politically controversial science; "Wikipedia hates women"
A new article in PLOS ONE about Wikipedia's science coverage has attracted media attention.
- Featured content: Dead parrots, live frogs, a symbolic kiss and what do we get? Enrique Iglesias!
This week's featured content.
- Travelogue: Seeing is believing
Tony the Tiger tours New York City.
- Traffic report: Straight Outta Connecticut
It's a long way from the leafy bowers of Greenwich, Connecticut to the concrete barrens of Compton, California.
- Technology report: Tech news in brief
Community technical news.
- Blog: How Wikipedia responds to breaking news
Wikipedia is capable of covering news like any news agency.
Barnstar for You!
- Thank you! Thine Antique Pen (talk) 20:33, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Hôtel d'Alluye
The article Hôtel d'Alluye you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Hôtel d'Alluye for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Calvin999 -- Calvin999 (talk) 20:41, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Iris Class Tenders
Hello! I noticed you added a bunch of info to some pages I had created. Question for ya... It looks like it is just the same information on each page. Wouldn't it be better to have an actual Iris-class buoy tender page (that is just a redirect at the moment) that has this information instead of duplicating the same info? I'm curious what your thoughts are. Hoping you are well. --Zackmann08 (Talk to me /What I been doing ) 20:29, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hi, I hope you are well too. I agree that it would be a good idea to have a larger article describing all the relevant details of the class as a whole, along with its development and strategic significance. I'll look into this at a later date, but also believe in having basic information in the article of each ship. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 20:36, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Province of Bologna
Articles you contributed to have been nominated for Did You Know
- Province of Catanzaro (discussion)
- Province of Fermo (discussion)
- Province of Ferrara (discussion)
- Province of Medio Campidano (discussion)
- Province of Pavia (discussion)
- Province of Pescara (discussion)
- Province of Pordenone (discussion)
- Province of Ravenna (discussion)
- Province of Savona (discussion)
- Province of Varese (discussion)
The Signpost: 26 August 2015
- In focus: An increase in active Wikipedia editors
Does the data mean good news for the encyclopedia?
- In the media: Russia temporarily blocks Wikipedia
The Russian Wikipedia is blocked, more blocks may be on the on the horizon.
- Op-ed: Wikimania—can volunteers organize conferences?
Should paid event staff supplement the work of volunteers?
- News and notes: Re-imagining grants
The Wikimedia Foundation's grant structure.
- Featured content: Out to stud, please call later
This week's featured content.
- Arbitration report: Reinforcing Arbitration
The recently closed Arbitration Enforcement case.
- Recent research: OpenSym 2015 report
A look at the research presented at the OpenSym 2015 conference.
DYK for Province of Lodi
DYK for Province of Isernia
No bullets in ships infoboxes
I gather that you didn't realize that Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships/Guidelines forbids bullets in infoboxes. FYI.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:58, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'll go over my expansions later today. Thanks for that. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 17:01, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Be advised that there's no such thing as "beam length" or "draught length" as used in your UCII-class articles, only beam and draught (which it would be nice if you linked). Be sure to see if you used that same formulation in your other uboat articles.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:39, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll perform some replacements soon. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 19:45, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Done. I've got some infobox-related edits to make to the articles in the future. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 21:07, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've got a few fixes to do myself. Amazing how an undetected error in one bit can spread like wildfire once you go crazy with copy-paste.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:52, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- I figured that you hadn't given up quite so early, but at least you didn't drop them on us at the last minute. And I'm practically out of ships while I expect that there are even more species of fungi that you could expand. Well played, sir.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:19, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- I had nearly given up, until I spotted these and found them as good candidates for expansion. Thanks. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 17:30, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- I figured that you hadn't given up quite so early, but at least you didn't drop them on us at the last minute. And I'm practically out of ships while I expect that there are even more species of fungi that you could expand. Well played, sir.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:19, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
- I've got a few fixes to do myself. Amazing how an undetected error in one bit can spread like wildfire once you go crazy with copy-paste.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:52, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Italian provinces
I am thinking of further expanding a few of your Italian province stub expansions. I do not intend to claim anything for my work on them in the Stub Contest, but propose to put them forward as joint DYKs if you are happy with that arrangement. I have made a start with Province of Sondrio. The reason I am suggesting this is that they are very good scorers in the WikiCup, which is about to enter its final round.They have both language and age bonuses and should score about 25 points each as opposed to a new article's score of 5. Do you object to having a few extra (joint) DYKs? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:05, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hi @Cwmhiraeth:. I would be absolutely fine with that arrangement. Good luck at the WikiCup! Thine Antique Pen (talk) 13:09, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- @Cwmhiraeth: Thanks for nominating those. Could you take another look at Perijá tapaculo? I had dropped you an email but figured you prefer talk pages. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 11:05, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'll have a look. I was having so much junk mail that I was put off from looking in my inbox and have now changed my email address. You seem to have been working hard at expanding stubs! :) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:23, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, okay - I think I sent it to your old email address. I decided to expand some of my own stubs, which opened up a large number of potential expansions. I'm unsure about the image placement in Perijá tapaculo; I've had to place {{clear }} in the description section to make sure that the image on the left does not interfere with the ecology/behaviour section. It was suggested that the image of the juvenile bird be placed in the taxobox, although I'm unsure of this. Thanks. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 11:40, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'll have a look. I was having so much junk mail that I was put off from looking in my inbox and have now changed my email address. You seem to have been working hard at expanding stubs! :) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:23, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
WikiCup 2015 September newsletter
The finals for the 2015 Wikicup has now begun! Congrats to the 8 contestants who have survived to the finals, and well done and thanks to everyone who took part in rounds 3 and 4.
In round 3, we had a three-way tie for qualification among the wildcard contestants, so we had 34 competitors. The leader was by far Scotland Casliber (submissions ) in Group B, who earned 1496 points. Although 913 of these points were bonus points, he submitted 15 articles in the DYK category. Second place overall was Philadelphia Coemgenus (submissions ) at 864 points, who although submitted just 2 FAs for 400 points, earned double that amount for those articles in bonus points. Everyone who moved forward to Round 4 earned at least 100 points.
The scores required to move onto the semifinals were impressive; the lowest scorer to move onto the finals was 407, making this year's Wikicup as competitive as it's always been. Our finalists, ordered by round 4 score, are:
- Belarus Cas Liber (submissions ), who is competing in his sixth consecutive Wikicup final, again finished the round in first place, with an impressive 1666 points in Pool B. Casliber writes about the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy. A large bulk of his points this round were bonus points.
- Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions ) (FP bonus points ), second place both in Pool B and overall, earned the bulk of his points with FPs, mostly depicting currency.
- Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions ), first in Pool A, came in third. His specialty is natural science articles; in Round 4, he mostly submitted articles about insects and botany. Five out of the six of the GAs he submitted were level-4 vital articles.
- Somerset Harrias (submissions ), second in Pool A, took fourth overall. He tends to focus on articles about cricket and military history, specifically the 1640s First English Civil War.
- Washington, D.C. West Virginian (submissions ), from Pool A, was our highest-scoring wildcard. West Virginia tends to focus on articles about the history of (what for it!) the U.S. state of West Virginia.
- Somerset Rodw (submissions ), from Pool A, likes to work on articles about British geography and places. Most of his points this round were earned from two impressive accomplishments: a GT about Scheduled monuments in Somerset and a FT about English Heritage properties in Somerset.
- United States Rationalobserver (submissions ), from Pool B, came in seventh overall. RO earned the majority of her points from GARs and PRs, many of which were earned in the final hours of the round.
- England Calvin999 (submissions ), also from Pool B, who was competing with RO for the final two spots in the final hours, takes the race for most GARs and PRs—48.
The intense competition between RO and Calvin999 will continue into the finals. They're both eligible for the Newcomers Trophy, given for the first time in the Wikicup; whoever makes the most points will win it.
Good luck to the finalists; the judges are sure that the competition will be fierce!
Figureskatingfan (talk ·contribs ), Miyagawa (talk ·contribs ) and Sturmvogel66 (talk ·contribs ) 11:48, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Perijá tapaculo
DYK for Province of Pescara
DYK for Province of Pavia
The Center Line: Summer 2015
- Departments
- Features
- Road to the past: Some tips on researching history sections
- Getting to know the editors behind the lenses
- State and national updates
- —MediaWiki message delivery (talk) delivered on behalf of Imzadi1979 05:23, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
The Signpost: 02 September 2015
- Special report: Massive paid editing network unearthed on the English Wikipedia
Nearly 400 accounts blocked in largest paid-editing bust ever.
- News and notes: Flow placed on ice
The WMF collaboration team announced this week that Flow will no longer be under active development.
- Discussion report: WMF's sudden reversal on Wiki Loves Monuments
A conflict regarding fundraising banners on the Italian Wikipedia is resolved.
- Featured content: Brawny
This Signpost "Featured content" report covers material promoted from 16 August to 24 August.
- In the media: Orangemoody sockpuppet case sparks widespread coverage
Also vital statistics regarding Ja Rule.
- Traffic report: You didn't miss much
The late-summer smash success of Straight Outta Compton remains the chief talking point of the English-speaking world, interrupted only by the welcome return of a Google Doodle.
- Technology report: Tech news in brief
Community technical news.
DYK for Province of Savona
DYK for Province of Pordenone
DYK for Province of Udine
DYK nomination of Battle of the Lacus Curtius
Hello! Your submission of Battle of the Lacus Curtius at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Alex2006 (talk) 08:32, 6 September 2015 (UTC) Alex2006 (talk) 08:32, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Province of Varese
DYK for Province of Medio Campidano
Thank you
Nice save . Cheers, 2601:188:0:ABE6:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:13, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
- No problem. Maybe it was something to do with Rucka Rucka Ali. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 20:22, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Province of Ferrara
DYK for Province of Ravenna
DYK for Province of Forlì-Cesena
The Signpost: 09 September 2015
- Gallery: Being Welsh
The National Library is now releasing some of the nation's most treasured collections to Wikimedia Commons for everyone to use and enjoy.
- Featured content: Killed by flying debris
Tony1 interviews a prolific featured content participant, Ian Rose.
- Op-ed: DYK, or proudly displaying incorrect information on the Main Page with alarming regularity
Fram tells us why DYK is a problem.
- News and notes: The Swedish Wikipedia's controversial two-millionth article
First bot-created article generated from Wikidata; the Orange Bar of Doom has finally met its doom; active editor numbers still on the rise; arbitrator to resign; ne templates added in wake of Orangemoody case
- Traffic report: Mass media production traffic
This week's theme in popular articles revolved entirely around mass media productions.
- Technology report: Tech news in brief
section begin "tech-newsletter-content"
- In the media: Calling all scientists!; More Wikipedia editors in the Netherlands than all of Africa combined
A recap of Wikipedia in the media this week
DYK for Sainte Marie Coal Mine
DYK for Battle of the Lacus Curtius
Surnames
It doesn't really matter, since I can find them in Category:Disambiguation pages with surname-holder lists anyway, but a lot of these articles that you are fixing are not in fact disambiguation pages. The tag was erroneous from the start. I could have shoved all ~6000 of them in that category years ago, but they require more careful sifting through to determine which are valid dab pages and which aren't. —Xezbeth (talk) 07:48, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- I guess that I was somewhat confused about that, sorry. I'll try trawling through my edits sometime. Thanks. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 15:31, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
DYK for Province of Fermo
The Signpost: 16 September 2015
- Editorial: No access is no answer to closed access
On Wikipedia's commitment to open access and its obligations to readers and editors.
- News and notes: Byrd and notifications leave, but page views stay; was a terror suspect editing Wikipedia?
WMF CFO to depart, notifications come and go, and questions about the possible editing by a recently arrested terrorism suspect.
- In the media: Is there life on Mars?
Probably not. Also, Whitehall still editing Wikipedia.
- Featured content: Why did the emu cross the road?
This week's featured content.
- Traffic report: Another week
No particular trends to spot in this week's top article traffic.
- Technology report: Tech news in brief
Community technical news.
The Signpost: 23 September 2015
- In the media: PETA makes "monkey selfie" a three-way copyright battle; Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
PETA launches a copyright lawsuit over the infamous photograph.
- Op-ed: Can we please stop bashing Wikipedia?
No, really, just stop.
- Featured content: Inside Duke Humfrey's Library
This week's featured content.
- WikiProject report: Dancing to the beat of a... wikiproject?
This time of year features the Latin Grammy Awards, so here for an interview are WikiProject Latin music.
- Traffic report: ¡Viva la Revolución! Kinda.
This week, drug lord and wannabe Bolivar Pablo Escobar was joined by a whole host of somewhat more primetime-friendly political insurgents.
- Technology report: Tech news in brief
Community technical news.
The Center Line: September 2015
The Center Line
Volume 8, Issue S1 • September 2015 • About the Newsletter
- Happy 10th Anniversary!
- —delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of Imzadi1979 (talk) on 23:58, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Perijá tapaculo
I've expressed concern at the FAC about the sourcing, but I'd like to help if I can. I have access to the on-line version of HBW, and I can send you the text of the taxonomy sections of the family article and whichever species' accounts you think are relevant. I don't know if any other sections would be of use. I have Birds of Venzuela, but that's primarily a field guide and a bit dated, even if it covers the range.
Email me if you would like any of the above. I've a very busy weekend coming up, so I may not reply immediately Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:32, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- I can also reference an etymology for the genus name Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:40, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Jimfbleak: That would be fantastic, thank you very much — I have sent you an email. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 18:02, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- @Jimfbleak: I have dropped you another email to request extra clarification. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 15:24, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
The Signpost: 30 September 2015
- News and notes: Wikimedia Foundation fundraising report, Montreal to host 2017 Wikimania
A year of fundraising and a controversial decision.
- In the media: Irish legislative editing; coffee quarrel; more sports vandalism
More Wikipedia editing in the news.
- Op-ed: Wikipedia needs more administrators
Low numbers of active admins and high standards for adminship make a troubling combination.
- Recent research: Wiktionary special; newbies, conflict and tolerance; Is Wikipedia's search function inferior?
A look at newly published Wikipedia research.
- Tech news: Tech news in brief
Community technical news
DYK for Province of Catanzaro
DYK for Province of Crotone
Invitation to join MILHIST
Hello, Thine Antique Pen, you are hereby invited to join the Military history WikiProject! We're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to military history, theory, and practice. You can add your name to the list of members, browse our showcase, train at the Academy, weigh in at current discussions, read the news, or find an open task. We hope you will join us! Anotherclown (talk) 06:08, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
The Signpost: 07 October 2015
- Op-ed: Walled gardens of corruption
Kazakhstan and Wikipedia: A marriage made in hell.
- Traffic report: Reality is for losers
English speakers, like most of humanity, are primarily a northern-hemispheric people, and as autumn draws close and the days grow shorter, as a group we tend to huddle around our flickering screens and remember what matters: TV, movies, sports and, of course, crazy doomsday prophecies.
- Featured content: This Week's Featured Content
Some of Wikipedia's newest featured content.
- Gallery: Winners of Wiki Loves Monuments 2015 in Pakistan
These winners of the Wiki Loves Monuments Pakistan 2015 contest were shared with the Social Media mailing list recently.
- Arbitration report: Warning: Contains GMOs
A new case was opened for ArbCom as the Genetically modified organisms case was accepted and opened on 28 September.
- Technology report: Tech news in brief
A reproduced version of the Wikimedia tech newsletter.
- In the media: Jailed Saudi blogger wins award; PR editing and Wiki-embarassment; Pakistan's third-richest person?
A summary of Wikimedia's mentions in the media.
A kitten for you!
Kat is looking at your RFA, and asking, should I get ready for the katchat?
Sorry
To see the RFA isnt going well. Getting adminship with less than six years of editing experience is a pretty tall order, I suppose we all shouldve seen from the beginning that it wasnt going to happen. I hope youre not too upset. — Soap — 00:00, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- It's not that tall. I came close and I'm nowhere near 6 years nor am I content creator. However I fear it will be another 3 years based on the opposes. Now that everyone knows your age, it's unavoidable. Some of the opposers due have a point, that subjecting someone of your age to that kind of abuse would make me feel bad. I'm neutral on this like I am on most RfAs, so I usually just sit and watch.—cyberpower Chat:Online 00:35, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- If it's any comfort, I feel terrible about my vote. I just think you got some bad advice somewhere along the line about something that happens a lot on Wikipedia that really gets under RFA voters' skins. - Dank (push to talk) 01:57, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
A friendly suggestion
Hi there. Regardless of the outcome of your pending RfA, I would suggest that you add appropriately completed versions of Template:Copied and/or Template:Translated page where you have copied portions of articles or translated articles from other Wikipedias. Including these templates on article talk pages removes any doubt that you are giving appropriate credit to the editors of the original articles, and creates a linked attribution for their contributions to yours. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:17, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Age
Your age does not bother me in the slightest, and I strongly feel that it will not be a factor in determining your RfA. Others younger than you in fact have passed, making the argument a discredited one. What crats look for as I am sure you know are the strengths in the arguments made. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 13:48, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- I wish I believed that. With the "count" in the range where it now is, I suspect the 'crats will not consider it to be discretionary - even though I agree with you that the "oppose" arguments are weak. Nearly a third of the "oppose" !votes are based on the candidate's age, which has no basis in policy and (in my limited experience) has never before been invoked before in an RfA - mainly because we don't know how old candidates are. --MelanieN (talk) 14:12, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- The count is just a count though. I echo another editor in saying "shows they have what it takes" that matters most. If the age was taken into consideration, it would open up a huge debate on Wikipedia when it comes to under-aged admin who want the position. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:49, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- I'd just like to add: Thine Antique Pen, you have handled this incredibly stressful process with a calmness and restraint and, yes, maturity that would do credit to anyone - of any age. You have shown admirable character and I salute you. MelanieN alt (talk) 15:12, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- The count is just a count though. I echo another editor in saying "shows they have what it takes" that matters most. If the age was taken into consideration, it would open up a huge debate on Wikipedia when it comes to under-aged admin who want the position. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:49, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
Thank you
Thank you everyone. I am taking a few days off, and I might have more to say after that. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 22:02, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Unsuccessful RfA
I regret to inform you that your RfA was closed as unsuccessful. I encourage you to review all the comments made during the RfA to see if there are any places where improvement can be made. Doing this will increase the likelihood of a successful RfA in the future. You are welcome to ask questions of myself or any other 'crat; we are always willing to help out where we can.
We appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, and look forward to seeing another RfA at some point in the future. ···日本穣 ? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:40, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- TAP, it may be too soon for this, but people will fuss if I don't notify you, and there's a chance this will make you smile on a sad day: your thoughts are welcome at WT:RFA#Two proposed RfCs on the viewdeleted userright. (P.S. This isn't canvassing, since you're one of the people in the target demographic ... you'll see what I mean.) - Dank (push to talk) 21:33, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi TAP, sorry to see that your RfA didn't make it through. Not to worry. You have plenty of time to get in later. All the best! - Kautilya3 (talk) 21:40, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry mate. I doubt if Christ could pass RfA these days. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:50, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- He'd be rejected as too old! 0;-D --MelanieN (talk) 23:18, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- haha Supdiop (T🔹C) 23:22, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- He'd be rejected as too old! 0;-D --MelanieN (talk) 23:18, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Its ok TAP, well played, 118 support votes is very positive thing. It is obvious that you will succeed in future once you "grow up". Best luck. --Human3015 TALK 22:20, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hey TAP. I'm sorry to hear about the unfavorable outcome of your RFA. You'll always get it next time. ;) In the meantime, keep up your excellent work in articles, CCIs, and other sectors of Wikipedia. Epic Genius (talk) 03:22, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Just wanted to chime in here, seeing as your RfA didn't go as many of us had hoped — don't let the end result dissuade you in any way from continuing on as you have been. Notice that the overwhelming majority of opposers, even the ones whose biggest issue was with your age, did not say "never". For most people, it boiled down to instances where paying close attention to detail was important, such as at DYK. Fram's oppose is the one that I think could give the greatest insights into where you could improve for next time. Try writing or expanding some more articles and bringing them to DYK, and make sure to read them over carefully when writing a hook so that you don't misrepresent anything by mistake. There is also no shame in asking for a second opinion if you feel like you need one. Maybe give it a year before submitting another request for adminship. You'll get there soon enough. For now, I can only second what Human3015 said above: you had 118 different people expressing confidence that you can be trusted with that kind of responsibility, and 57 others (or 68, depending on how you count the neutrals) who mostly just think you should give it a bit more time. Kurtis (talk) 08:59, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hard lines - do try again in a little while. Deb (talk) 09:11, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Honestly, I thought you'd become an admin at first. I'll tell you a story. Once upon a time, a ship started to sail in the sea and went 12 miles offshore. Unfortunately, water was coming into the ship because there was hole. Ship tried to come back to the shore but sank just half a mile away from the shore, how sad, but thankfully, nobody was killed, all were rescued. They built a new ship after some years and this time they made sure that there were no holes and started sailing again and this time it reached it's destination successfully. Supdiop (T🔹C) 09:34, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- There are holes in the boat? Did it run aground of a rock? And how is a sinking RFA comparable to—oh, I see now. Point is, you'll do better next time, TAP. Epic Genius (talk) 14:33, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hey, wait a minute. We just told him he is too young to be an admin - and now you offer him a beer? Talk about mixed signals... 0;-D --MelanieN (talk) 17:13, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- Underage drinking? :P Epic Genius (talk) 18:20, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
- I am pretty sure that a virtual beer is non-alcoholic --rogerd (talk) 13:44, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- Underage drinking? :P Epic Genius (talk) 18:20, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
copyrights and Wikipedia
I think it might be interesting for you to examine Rainey Bennett. Paul Theodore Arlt and Richard Haines and tell me if you feel I am too picky about using sources exactly, or not citing a source so used. Thanks - and commiserations on the age bit. Collect (talk) 00:41, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Collect. I do not think you are being picky, and would consider these to be copyright violations. Rainey Bennett contains material from , , and , with the article history containing further violations. Paul Theodore Arlt contains material from and , also with further violations in the history. Richard Haines, although containing less infringements, uses material from and . I believe that the material should be appropriately paraphrased or removed completely, with all prior revisions removed from the article history. Whilst indeed violations, the edits appear to have been made in a good-faith spree of content creation, with the extent of copyright problems limited to under ten articles. Thanks. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 17:08, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
But better luck next time. I'm sure you'll sail through RFA #2. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 01:17, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Jakob. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 13:52, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
The Signpost: 14 October 2015
- Op-ed: WikiConference USA 2015: built on good faith
We believe that human interaction can only make Wikipedia stronger.
- WikiConference report: US gathering sees speeches from Andrew Lih, AfroCrowd, and the Archivist of the United States
Three days at the US National Archives.
- Editorial: Why the news media needs a Wikipedian in residence
The news coverage we usually see about Wikipedia is neither in-depth, nor specialized, nor systematic.
- News and notes: 2015–2016 Q1 fundraising update sparks mailing list debate
Everyone's talking about money.
- Traffic report: Screens, Sport, Reddit, and Death
For the second consecutive week, the most viewed article had less than one million views, the only two weeks that has happened in all of 2015.
- Featured content: A fistful of dollars
This week's featured content.
- Technology report: Tech news in brief
Community technical news.
- Blog: Third Wikimedia Spain conference takes place in Madrid
On September 25, 26 and 27, Wikimedia Spain celebrated its third Wikimedia Conference at the Colegio Mayor Universitario Isabel de España in Madrid.
Congratulations...
...on the promotion; thoroughly deserved. I'm sorry I couldn't play a more active part in the FAC, but it looks like you could manage fine without me! Josh Milburn (talk) 16:13, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you Josh. Your help was much appreciated. Thine Antique Pen (talk) 20:00, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
The Signpost: 21 October 2015
- Editorial: Women and Wikipedia: the world is watching
Time to clean up our mess.
- News and notes: Wikimedia lawsuit against NSA dismissed; Affiliates mailing list launched
District court judge decrees that the WMF lacks standing.
- In the media: "Wikipedia's hostility to women"
"The lunatics are running the asylum."
- Special report: One year of GamerGate, or how I learned to stop worrying and love bare rule-level consensus
Examining the conflict and its participants.
- Featured content: A more balanced week
Featured content
- Op-ed: Wikipedia is significantly amplifying the impact of Open Access publications
When given a choice between journals of similar impact factors, editors are significantly more likely to select the "open access" option.
- Arbitration report: Four ArbCom cases ongoing
Open cases before the Arbitration Committee.
- Traffic report: Hiding under the covers of the Internet
We live in a harsh, uncertain world.
- Technology report: Tech news in brief
Community technical news.
Stub contest Lucky dip
- Wow, thank you! It seems I shall be buying lots of books! Thine Antique Pen (talk) 17:42, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Halloween cheer!
Hello Thine Antique Pen:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!
– North America 1000 00:52, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Sent to users on my mailing list. To opt-out forever, just remove your name.
- Happy (belated) Halloween! North America 1000 00:52, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks Northamerica1000, happy Halloween to you too! Thine Antique Pen (talk) 00:55, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
The Signpost: 28 October 2015
- From the editor: The Signpost's reorganization plan—we need your help
A call for volunteers.
- News and notes: English Wikipedia reaches five million articles
The community reacts to another milestone.
- In the media: The world's Wikipedia gaps; Google and Wikipedia accused of tying Ben Carson to NAMBLA
The week's news coverage about the encyclopedia.
- Op-ed: It’s time to stop the bullying
Gangs of bullies and trolls rove the internet and make life difficult for the rest of us.
- Arbitration report: A second attempt at Arbitration enforcement
A divisive case before the Committee opens.
- Traffic report: Canada, the most popular nation on Earth
What's this all aboot, eh?
- Recent research: Student attitudes towards Wikipedia; Jesus, Napoleon and Obama top "Wikipedia social network"; featured article editing patterns in 12 languages
New research about Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects.
- Featured content: Birds, turtles, and other things
This week's featured content.
- Technology report: Tech news in brief
Community technical news.
- Community letter: Five million articles
The community celebrates.
5 Million: We celebrate your contribution
Celebrate 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:41, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, I think only about 0.2% of those articles were started by me. :) Thine Antique Pen (talk) 18:33, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Congratulations
Hi Thine Antique Pen congratulations on winning the stub contest. Could you please email me at karla.marte@wikimedia.org.uk to send the prize your way. Thank you. Karla Marte(WMUK) —Preceding undated comment added 13:08, 2 November 2015 (UTC)