User talk:Jengod

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Hi, thought I'd open a dialogue as I noticed the thanks sent. I just want to open by saying with all sincerity I think you should consider opening a blog or contributing to a fan wiki about The Bear as what you've been writing is extremely detailed and would likely be of high interest to dedicated fans of the show. However much of it is failing to keep to the "general" encyclopaedia aspect of Wikipedia, and is extremely overburdening for the more casual audience articles are written for.

In particular I just want to suggest that it might be worth pausing the changes you're making to Food of The Bear (TV series) and instead work out what you want that article to "be" as it were. Reading it, there is some really good substance for an article about how food is used in the show to examine character (Carmey cooking exceptionally basic items for himself at home, compared to work) and social issues (such as how the basis of what Claire eats is sourced from Sydney without acknowledgement has been seen as commentary on how the work of Black women goes unacknowledged), but it's lost within an extremely long article that overall lacks direction with a lot of trivial information such as listing every form of pasta sauce made on the show (and how people online have tried to work out what it is), extended quotes from the show and how they're humourous, etc cluttering it and robbing it of focus.

It's clear you're a big fan of the show and want to improve its inclusion here which isn't a bad thing, but as someone trying to read these pieces the tendency towards overinclusion of every verifiable piece of coverage is making them a very difficult read for the purposes of getting a broad, useful overview of topics to the point of being almost impenetrable.

More than happy to lend a hand towards this if so desired. Rambling Rambler (talk) 17:58, 9 June 2026 (UTC) Reply

Yes! @Rambling Rambler Articles inhale and exhale, grow and shrink, at the moment I'm just in reference(s) hell. Do we need every fact about Italian beef sandwiches, no. Is every pasta variable notable? Jesus who cares. Are all of Sydney's bad ideas in "Pop" crucial? The gist is that she's chasing her tail for "reasons."

Does it matter what kind of mushrooms Terry is trimming? Probably not. but does Shapiro messing up the Chicago pizza tell us something about his character? Yes

That said, I would also like to wait until S5 comes out before pruning drastically because there is transparently a great deal of narrative "baked into" the food, as it were, and I suspect there are some conclusions or resolutions in S5 that will illuminate how best to refine. Is waiting something you can, uh, bear? (Don't mind me.)

long story short, can we possibly put a pin in it until after S5 comes out and tackle remodeling it then? Or discuss pieces on the talk page. I'm not trying to be a pain, sorry if I am

jengod (talk) 18:17, 9 June 2026 (UTC) Reply

As a happy medium what I might do at the weekend when I have time is more rewriting the sections that are already there compared to the more "slice and dice" to the already aired episode articles, if that makes sense? Rambling Rambler (talk) 18:29, 9 June 2026 (UTC) Reply

Sure. PS I'm not trying to own this article I swear, jump on in, but I promise you on my children:

• Beverage anything
• Lamb anything
• Beef anything
• Prawns anything
• Flowers bouquets nests eggs anything
• pasta lore
• & any braised food

are important. See also the titles of the S5 eps.

I did not just mean to name all foods. I definitely left out pork and duck and most vegetables LOL. The desserts are Marcus' business.

kinda like Carmy with the sandwich in "Scallop" I would ask you to trust me a little but go with god and you do you @Rambling Rambler

jengod (talk) 18:35, 9 June 2026 (UTC) Reply

Oh and hamachi and scallops are also freighted with narrative significance. (Screams like Carmy: "I'm not crazy! I'm not crazy!") and now I'm done and will stop having thoughts if at all possible @Rambling Rambler jengod (talk) 18:49, 9 June 2026 (UTC) Reply

Hi Jengod. Thank you for your work on Family on The Bear (TV series). Another editor, Fortek67, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Nice article! Please fix refs 15, 16, and 20. Thank you!

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Fortek67 (talk) 15:07, 24 June 2026 (UTC) Reply

Hello Jengod, I hope you are fine. It has been a very long time :) I wanted to let you know that I have some kings of the Kingdom of Benin articles, Ohen at Wikipedia:Peer review/Ohen/archive1 and Ewuare at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ewuare/archive1, and if they interest you, your eyes would be very much appreciated. Thank you, Jengod! Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:43, 28 June 2026 (UTC) Reply

These are absolutely beautiful @Vanderwaalforces. You're doing Wikipedia proud. jengod (talk) 17:49, 28 June 2026 (UTC) Reply

Thanks for the compliments, I would appreciate if you're able to review at FAC or PR. Tysm! Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:56, 28 June 2026 (UTC) Reply

I am so so sorry but I don't do formal article reviews. They look clean to me tho! If I see anything I will fix or drop a note. Cheers, jengod (talk) 19:17, 28 June 2026 (UTC) Reply

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Hi Jengod. Thank you for your work on Shau-hau-napo-tinia, an Ioway chief. Another editor, Mariamnei, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Nice start!

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Isn't this eligible for a DYK? Seems like it should be... And then there's always OTD for September 4th. - Shearonink (talk) 20:33, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

I dropped out of the DYK business like three years ago! Anyone else is welcome to try but it stresses me out. I will add it to the September 4 article sourced to Elbert Smith jengod (talk) 20:38, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

OK, I'm going to have a go at it then but it's been a long while. I think the article is delightful and would interest a lot of WP readers. Wish me luck - Shearonink (talk) 21:13, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

[animated heart emoji] [care bear heart rainbows] page me for whatever the complaints and criticisms may be and I will do my best to make it suck less :) jengod (talk)} jengod (talk) 21:49, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

omfg...Thanks, I had forgotten how complicated just doing the DYK? noms are for me... I made so many mistakes on the original nom template etc... I think I finally (?) got them all fixed? See Template:Did you know nominations/Jackson-Benton brawl of 1813. - Shearonink (talk) 23:32, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

You are rad. Praying that it goes smoothly and will keep working on reference and language improvements without, hopefully, breaking anything. <3 jengod (talk) 23:34, 10 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Thanks for the thanks. Lol, I did keep on running into edit conflicts. Oh, and btw, it's going ever so swimmingly over at the Template... That's why I had to semi-tear apart "nearly amputated" into "doctors recommended amputation" etc. - Shearonink (talk) 03:41, 12 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

@Shearonink 1 sorry! 2 i could tell without even peeking over there 😝 thank you for your valiant and patient effort. Above and beyond! jengod (talk) 03:47, 12 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Take a look at Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/September 4. - Shearonink (talk) 00:12, 15 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

Nice!! Thank you for doing that @Shearonink. You can't say Jackson didn't have an eventful life! jengod (talk) 00:26, 15 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

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Hi Jengod, I do a zine about primates called Ape Shit (orbooks.com/catalog/ape-shit) and would love to include an edit of your Joe Martin bio in the next issue (#2). Please let me know if you’d like a byline. I’ll also credit Wikipedia. In the off-chance that you’d be up for editing it into a shorter and less "wiki voice" piece, let me know that too. apesht.zine at gmail. Thanks for your excellent work! ~2026-41737-62 (talk) 19:09, 26 July 2026 (UTC) Reply

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Clintville (talk) 21:21, 2 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

I have been working on a Draft and am thinking it might be ready to convert to an article - and, dare I think it, a DYK?. Before I do any of that, would you mind taking a look and giving me your opinion? Here is the link: User:Shearonink/Sandbox...Draft for Velma Grant article. Pay no attention to the SOURCES section, that's just where I've been placing references when I find them so I'll have them at hand to work with. The person Velma Grant has popped-up online in the pat several years, as feel-good posts on various social media platforms, basically regurgitating fractured history as junk food for all. I've found some pretty serious discrepancies in the various posts. I have also been unable to find out very much about Grant's personal life after the SoCal developments were built (and hardly any info about her personal life at all) so have had to rely on Federal Census info. If you have time to take a look, thanks in advance. - Shearonink (talk) 19:25, 10 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

@Shearonink oh very interesting and weird. Yes I'll take a look. Kids are starting school soon so my brain is scrambled eggs but will clear a window to read and dig. jengod (talk) 20:16, 10 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Just reply here with your thoughts about the draft if you don't mind. Thanks. - Shearonink (talk) 01:10, 11 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Lol nevermind just found the Draft talk. Thanks. - Shearonink (talk) 01:12, 11 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

The thing is...I don't know if you've noticed but if you "google" her name, you'll notice something. All the social media history factoid accounts and even some authoritative sources seem to have a detail about Velma wrong... - Shearonink (talk) 02:23, 11 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Yeah. The AI photos or whatever that is are gross. jengod (talk) 02:28, 11 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Mm-hmm. It's no one and it's someone. -Ish. I did a search for where that artwork came from and I think it is possibly a barely disguised rendition/painting-over of Dorothy Gatson Bates/Daisy Lee Gatson Bates/Daisy Bates, a civil rights activist. smh. - Shearonink (talk) 04:03, 11 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

Plant the corrective seed of factual information, and hopefully over time...false folklore and misinformation is curable, sometimes it just takes a while. jengod (talk) 04:08, 11 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

OK, this is what is driving me nuts about Velma at the moment...where the h*ll is an OBITUARY? A death notice? Either in California or in Arizona? She was fairly prominent in business in the LA area and in the Phoenix area. I don't understand it, I can't find a thing. Yet. If you happen to come across a written obit in some newspaper that would be an immense help. I have had to rely on some primary documents and primary docs can sometimes be a little tricky... - Shearonink (talk) 14:50, 12 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

I've even started trying to find any info about her son...he doesn't seem to have died either! - Shearonink (talk) 14:56, 12 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

@Shearonink The thing is that someone has to be organized enough and care enough to write an obituary. I'm always surprised when we *do* get good ones. I mean it probably exists and it's probably in a Philadelphia paper just to outwit us, but it's very possible it was just never created. I'll browse again tho. jengod (talk) 15:25, 12 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

ALERT! ALERT!

Take a look at THIS:

"Velma Reid" marriage! Notice the variant spelling. - Shearonink (talk) 16:13, 12 August 2026 (UTC) Reply

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