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Latest comment: 2 years ago 2 comments2 people in discussion

I think they make this in India also. I've been to Indian stores and seem to also make and eat this, or something extremely similar. Dont know the name, But I have seen it in the Indian stores. In Indian/ south Asian cultures they seem to have a lot of deserts and small squares and stuff stuff like this. could this have traveled to India from the Mougals out of Persia and Afghanistan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.10.167.113 (talk) 00:43, 4 February 2011 (UTC) Reply

You mean mithai? watermelon66 (talk) 00:06, 5 March 2024 (UTC) Reply

Turkish Delight was INVENTED by Haci Bekir

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Latest comment: 3 years ago 4 comments4 people in discussion

The article writes about unconnected sweets which have nothing to do with what the sweet is today.

Original authentic Turkish Delight was a sweet created by Haci Bekir for the Ottoman Sultan, there is no deep conspiracy of millenia's of Turkish Delight history. It is a sweet a few centuries old, invented by Haci Bekir in Istanbul for the Ottoman Sultan. The sweet became sucesfull and popular across the Empire.

As for it being "Persian" origin, is the entire universe of Persian origin...

Torke —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.0.143 (talk) 01:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC) Reply

This claim is not supported by a reliable source. If you have a reliable source to support this - do add it. A newspaper article or a company web page is not a reliable source. The suggestion of Persian origin is made by a historian in a scientific study, which is a reliable source.80.244.22.49 (talk) 15:01, 20 February 2016 (UTC) Reply
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacı_Bekir 46.114.173.159 (talk) 01:23, 5 March 2023 (UTC) Reply
Wikipedia is not a reliable source. We can't have people putting claims in Wikipedia just because somebody else previously put those claims in Wikipedia. Largoplazo (talk) 12:26, 5 March 2023 (UTC) Reply

rahat-ol hulkum

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Latest comment: 2 years ago 4 comments4 people in discussion

rahat-ol hulkum is pure Arabic and can be written "rahat-el-Halkoum" or "rahat-al-halkou" and there is only one way to write in Arabic "راحه الحلقوم". The Arab now call it sometimes "raha" or "halkoum" a short way to say "rahat-el-halkoum" This name means "comfort of the throat" as it is easy to swallow.

This name has travelled all the way from the Greater Syria area (Syria,Lebanon,and Palestine)north to Eastern Europe and East to Iran. It does not make sense the Turkish use the Arabic description (name)for something they invented. The name has nothing to do with the word "loqma" "لقمه"

Whoever you claim as the Turkish inventor is simply a person who is the first to make business out of something that existed before, and he gave it an Arabic name. Any other claim is not founded on any historical proven facts. It is just pure emotional thinking that defy logic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.82.154.118 (talk) 02:20, 17 December 2013 (UTC) Reply

You are not a reliable source - got anything that is?--Laun chba ller 07:22, 17 December 2013 (UTC) Reply
It was invented in the Ottoman Empire 1777 by
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacı_Bekir
Everything else is nonsense. 46.114.173.159 (talk) 01:26, 5 March 2023 (UTC) Reply
Not only is Wikipedia not a citable source for Wikipedia articles, the article you linked doesn't even support the claim that you're making:
"Lokum war schon im 14. Jahrhundert in Anatolien bekannt."
Or in English:
"Lokum was already known in the 14th century in Anatolia." 82.163.149.40 (talk) 18:31, 3 October 2023 (UTC) Reply

Gelatin?

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Latest comment: 1 year ago 3 comments3 people in discussion

As of the time of writing, the introductory paragraphs do not mention gelatine, though it is listed in the sidebar as a main ingredient with 2 sources (these sources are not in a language this editor can read, for posterity). Is gelatin a main ingredient or not, is it an ingredient in variant recipes, and does gelatin in this context mean as we would commonly understand it a collagen derived from animal products? 80.162.26.181 (talk) 19:47, 16 November 2023 (UTC) Reply

Good question. I also do not read Arabic, and while I normally avoid machine translation, in this case it seems acceptable for double-checking the cited source. Of the two, only the translation of one mentioned gelatin. So it seems like it is only sometimes used. I have added an English-language recipe, which also does not mention gelatin, and moved gelatin to the 'Ingredients generally used' field along with fruit and nuts, per the article. Grayfell (talk) 21:09, 16 November 2023 (UTC) Reply
I came here as a result of watching a YouTube "short" of a movie clip where the words "Turkish delight" were used, and the character said it was "disgusting", so curious I came here to find out why, having literally NO CLUE that it was a confection. I expected something obviously gross like baked testicles in blood gravy. I say all of this to illustrate how completely unaware I was of this confection until less than 5 minutes ago. And I notice an issue, and am now documenting it.
"...family of confections based on a gel of starch and sugar." This makes sense to me, keyword here being "gel", but then it raises the question of HOW a gel can be made of "starch and sugar", so flip over to this "Talk" page and discover the possibility that there's a 3rd element "gelatine" as in "jello" that might be involved, so I naturally wonder about that, but THEN in the "History" section it says:
"...unique form of lokum made with starch and sugar." implying there is some "magic" with the starch and the sugar, and that no "gelatine" is involved. First, that idea should be in the Lede, and second how about some definitive language on the exact chemical process that creates this "gel"? Huge void in the Article, IMO. From there, the Article degenerates into a pissing-contest between Turkey and "everyone else" trying to take credit for the stuff, but the special, secret, magic method and ingredient of the STUFF is left out of the Article completely. Annoying. Fails "readability", IMO. Now I wonder if there isn't some international conspiracy to hide the truth of this confection, and perhaps Willie Wonka is involved.
EDIT: This video answers everything. No gelatine necessary. Very simple. Sugar, and start. Flavoring. How to get this information into the Article is the question. (youtube)/mmphz6ZBLeo?si=DiyzFGQevpvbtxKg--72.180.111.79 (talk) 00:33, 31 July 2025 (UTC) Reply

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