Talk:Taborites

Is there any evidence that they actually "held women in common"?? To me, that merely sounds like a common recurring slur against a whole long list of socially radical or utopian groups from the Mazdakites down to the 19th century... AnonMoos 05:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

I agree that it sounds unlikely. Prokop, for one, was married. Srnec 23:17, 20 June 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

I'm consulting a book "The Hussite Movement in Bohemia" by Josef Macek, and he indicates that around June 1419, there was a trend of giving Czech mountains and hills Biblical names, including Tabor and Oreb. He also includes a document to which he gives the title "From the Taborite Chiliast Articles of 1420", which lays extreme importance on the religious significance of mountains. Some excerpts:

• Item, in this time none can be saved or shielded from God's blows except on the mountains.
• Item, in this time of vengeance the Taborite brethren are God's angels sent to lead the righteous to the mountains out of the towns, villages, and hamlets, as Lot was led out of Sodom.

etc. etc. See also article Tábor... AnonMoos 23:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

Hmmm, well that defintely seems plausible, but I still don't think we can ignore the fact that the Hussites were known for using the Taborite formation which was named after the wagons themselves, and the taborites were defintely known in particular for their use of the formation. Still, it is quite a coincidence and it would be interesting the find out if there is any connection.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 03:21, 20 October 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

If the military formation comes from the name of the group, and the name of the group was taken from the name of mount Tabor in Israel (as seems quite likely to me), then there's no "coincidence" involved in that. The coincidence may be that there was a similar-sounding Turkic word meaning some kind of "encampment" in general... AnonMoos 10:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

You've defintely done a good job making me a lot less sure about where the group's name comes from, but I am still still sure that the formation comes from the long lines of wagons that semi-nomadic peoples like the Roma would use to travel from place to place. I guess your idea of it coming from a Turkic word would make a lot of sense when you consider this.

By the way have you realized that the Hussite Wars are really one of those important periods in History that for one reason or another are grossly under-analyzed today.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 03:56, 21 October 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

See also Hussite#Calixtines_or_Utraquists.2C_and_Taborites -- AnonMoos 18:35, 2 November 2006 (UTC) [reply ]

I have removed the following text from the article:

The Taborites were particularly zealous in their religious practices and, like other such sects, some^{[quantify ]} believed it was their duty to slay all heretics, i.e., non-Taborites.^{[citation needed ]}

I don't doubt that the Taborites were among the more radical and zealous Hussites, but if we're going to start accusing people of wanting to kill everyone in the world outside their particular small sect, we should have at least ONE reputable source for it....and not leave an unsourced extraordinary claim in an article for four years. The citation-needed tag dates from September 2008. Florestanová (talk) 03:46, 5 September 2012 (UTC) [reply ]

"Jan Zizka supported Vladislaus II of Hungary or his son, Archduke Vytautas." Vladislaus II, as per link, ruled in the late 1400s, his son is not the archduke Vytautas (who was dead by 1430). Guessing a different Vladislaus was supposed to be linked here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.39.151.244 (talk) 16:04, 23 June 2020 (UTC) [reply ]

Yes, you are right. According to our article on Vytautas his father was Kęstutis. The statement is unsourced, and on a quick book search I can't find a source saying that Žižka supported anyone for the throne, so I have removed the sentence from the article. Phil Bridger (talk) 16:29, 23 June 2020 (UTC) [reply ]

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