Talk:Subtropics

I think that map is ridicolous, it's obvious that the climate of Provence is completely different from the desertic one of Sahara and Australian Outback, the climate of spain and italy is not comparable with that one of Florida, Japan is not the same of Arabia, Coastal south Africa has a very different climate from desertic coast of Chile, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.12.219.41 (talk) 15:18, 12 July 2012 (UTC) Reply

This article is totally senseless. I don't understand the meaning of that senseless map, It should show where are located the areas of planet earth with subtropical climate, but they are marked areas that are absolutely not subtropical. And I don't understand why in the article there are paragraphs about arid, semi arid and mediterranean climates.

But in particular that map is completly foolish. It clutters together areas with totally different climates that furthermore can't be defined subtropical. For example how can anyone connect mediterranean Europe climate (temperate climate - dry summers - wet winters,springs and autumns) with Florida (tropycal climate - always wet and warm) or Saudi Arabia (arid-desertic- always hot) with Northern New Zealand (temperate climate - always wet) ?????????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.10.152.121 (talk) 15:44, 13 July 2012 (UTC) Reply

Exist some types of subtropical climate. For example: Florida has humid subtropical, southern European Union has mediterranean, Arabia has subtropical desert. This is a few types of subropical climate. Subtropical-man (talk) 13:31, 14 July 2012 (UTC) Reply

What about San Francisco? Even if it has a thermal regime typical of an oceanic climate, it has subtropical foliage -- including palm trees. San Francisco has plenty of palm trees; Dallas, which has unambiguously mid-latitude foliage, does not. The absence of cold winter temperatures, and not summer heat, defines where palm trees are possible. Pbrower2a (talk) 18:44, 13 October 2013 (UTC) Reply

Exactly דולב חולב (talk) 18:17, 3 March 2024 (UTC) Reply

Wet and dry don't matter here.

Northern Arabia does have a mild cool winter. Subtropical climate is mostly about warm weather throughout the year with a mild winter. 86.57.5.239 (talk) 20:06, 15 August 2023 (UTC) Reply

I edited the climate of Tampa to New York City because I live in this Bigger and drier city. NYC has Moist summers and dry winters same as the seasons in Florida.174.44.64.225 (talk) 14:06, 11 September 2016 (UTC) Reply

NYC doesn’t have dry winters....

you don’t know what dry winters means.

search for Harbin to see a real dry winter city. דולב חולב (talk) 18:13, 3 March 2024 (UTC) Reply

I was thinking about an archive of this talk page because most of the topics here have no active discussions anymore. What do others think?PAper GOL (talk) 07:52, 3 October 2023 (UTC) Reply

The Subtropics don’t cover the middle latitudes, they are southern and northern to it! דולב חולב (talk) 18:06, 3 March 2024 (UTC) Reply

That depends on how you define both the subtropics and the midlatitudes. There is great diversity of definition in climate literature, but alas, there seems to be very little enthusiasm on Wikipedia for changes to reflect that. Uness232 (talk) 19:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC) Reply

Haha. I’m just guessing it’s easier for the average person to understand if we would define the subtropics as 23°26′10.1′′ to approximately 35° north and south of the equator, and the middle latitudes as: 35° to 66.5° . As mentioned on the article temperate climate . דולב חולב (talk) 04:47, 16 March 2024 (UTC) Reply

The temperate climate article defines the subtropics as temperate, and gives the definition 23.5° to 66.5° N/S of Equator. This is not the only definition, but it is consistent. Uness232 (talk) 18:57, 16 March 2024 (UTC) Reply

"The humid subtropical climate is often on the western side of the subtropical high." I’m not sure what does it mean, but I know that humid subtropical climate is usually found on the eastern side of the continents. דולב חולב (talk) 18:11, 3 March 2024 (UTC) Reply

It is talking about high-pressure systems that are located inside the oceans to the East of those continents with humid subtropical climate.

e.g. Azores High is in the North Atlantic ocean and is a factor for the humid subtropical climate in East/South US, which is west of the high-pressure system. PAper GOL (talk) 16:25, 4 March 2024 (UTC) Reply

Mmm... I understand.

but maybe we add something about Humid subtropical climate being usually found on the eastern side of continents, opposite to the Mediterranean climate on the western side? דולב חולב (talk) 04:42, 16 March 2024 (UTC) Reply