Talk:Scandinavia

In the section Different meanings of the term Scandinavian (permalink) there's the following text:

In the ethnic or cultural sense the term Scandinavian traditionally refers to speakers of Scandinavian languages, who are mainly descendants of the peoples historically known as Norsemen, but also to some extent of immigrants and others who have been assimilated into that culture and language. In this sense the term refers primarily to native Danes, Norwegians and Swedes as well as descendants of Scandinavian settlers such as the Icelanders and the Faroese. The term is also used in this ethnic sense, to refer to the modern descendants of the Norse, in studies of linguistics and culture.^{[ WP:REFBOMB ]}

The references give examples of usage, but do not actually discuss the term at any length. There's nothing about immigrants and assimilation. This seems like original research. The next paragraph is bit similar, giving a commentary about short dictionary definitions.

Then there's a paragraph about Sami peoples, specifically about the term 'Scandinavian' being applied to them. I skimmed the first reference, and found no discussion at all about the term 'Scandinavian'. The second reference I cannot fully access, but I suspect the same is true there. At least the snippets in Google Books don't give relevant results for 'Scandinavian'.

To me it seems better to discuss Scandinavia and Scandinavian simultaneously, without devoting a separate section for the adjective. Especially if the section is difficult to source. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 14:45, 15 June 2024 (UTC) Reply

I agree that the section appears to be largely WP:OR and is anyway fairly muddled. I'm not what, if anything, is rescueable. Pincrete (talk) 08:04, 25 September 2024 (UTC) Reply

The references to the section show that the settlers in Iceland and the Faroe Islands originated from Scandinavia. But they don't show that Iceland and the Faroe Islands are part of Scandinavia. This is similar to suggesting that the USA is part of Europe, because most of the current population has European ancestry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.23.239.207 (talk) 03:21, 24 September 2024 (UTC) Reply

They are not universally accepted as part of Scandinavia, which the article makes quite clear I would think. TylerBurden (talk) 20:08, 24 September 2024 (UTC) Reply

It's a misunderstanding. Similar to that England does not include Wales. And of course annoying for us who live there. Please refer to the Nordic Countries when that is what you are referring to. Scandinavia is not the Nordic Countries. ~2025-41030-37 (talk) 02:31, 16 December 2025 (UTC) Reply

I am not sure what you are asking for, the article does explain the difference. TylerBurden (talk) 03:49, 16 December 2025 (UTC) Reply

Similar to that England does not include Wales, not in any context I know of certainly, but in certain contexts Ireland IS part of the British Isles (much to the annoyance of Irish people and confusion of UK people). Tectonic plates and weather patterns are no respecters of national sensitivities, so geologists and meteorologists still use the older term. Similarly 'Balkan' has precise geographic boundaries (Balkan mountain range) , but it also has historical definitions (Ottoman Europe), and sometimes a slightly perjorative use to describe a large swathe of southern Europe, which is geographically European, but has not always been seen as culturally so. That to me is similar to the various uses in English of 'Scandinavian', (except 'Scandinavian' isn't usually perjorative). Pincrete (talk) 11:25, 16 December 2025 (UTC) Reply

Found this in the fourth paragraph of History 47.221.192.136 (talk) 16:35, 18 May 2025 (UTC) Reply

No, it's the form of the word used at the time Pincrete (talk) 10:50, 16 December 2025 (UTC) Reply

Hi, I made a map of Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland. Would it be usefuel to use in this article? Do you have any recommendations for teh map? -- Ikonact (talk) 07:27, 16 April 2026 (UTC) Reply

Could be fitted into geography section perhaps? TylerBurden (talk) 15:50, 16 April 2026 (UTC) Reply

Nice looking map. Some comments: The labels (e.g. city names) are very small. On full screen with a normal sized screen, they are barely readable. Some of the borders (eastern border of Finland) are less visible than others. Denmark-Germany border is not very clear. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 16:50, 16 April 2026 (UTC) Reply

Thanks. I am working on an improved version. I uploaded a first try and I will add more names. I have some doubts on improving the size of the labels. It is correct that some are very small and barely readable on normal sized screen but I cannot make them all readable as I have to find the balance between number of labels and overloaded map. In principle, this map is svg and can be opened as a big full size map. My suggestion will be to keep some elements (e.g. fjord and river names) small so that they are visible only when opened in full size. I can create a bigger raster file but in general the svg can be opened in browser. Any advice in this is welcome! Thanks Ikonact (talk) 10:16, 17 April 2026 (UTC) Reply

I think it is finalised now. I added transport. --Ikonact (talk) 08:18, 28 April 2026 (UTC) Reply

Skandinavia from ancient greek skala scale, L/N lat. scando climb, rise, go up, ascend. Because of the ice / water, ice age / warm period, the land shift its hight. Niederdeutschland Nethergermany and Netherlands. ~2026-19162-30 (talk) 11:12, 14 May 2026 (UTC) Reply

Please explain more clearly what you want done. TylerBurden (talk) 20:25, 14 May 2026 (UTC) Reply