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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 July 2024
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parameter to no to reactivate your request.In the "Other incidents" section, please change, "The Indian Home Secretary R. K. Singh said that at least 10 people having close links with the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) and its affiliated organisations were named accused in various acts of terror across India.[72] According to released documents by WikiLeaks, Congress(I) party's general secretary Rahul Gandhi remarked to US Ambassador Tim Roemer, at a luncheon hosted by Prime Minister of India at his residence in July 2009, that the RSS was a "bigger threat" to India than the Lashkar-e-Taiba.[73] At The Annual Conference of Director Generals of Police held in New Delhi on 16 September 2011, a special director of the Intelligence Bureau (IB) reportedly informed the state police chiefs that Hindutva activists have either been suspected or are under investigation in 16 incidents of bomb blasts in the country." to, "The Indian Home Secretary R. K. Singh said that at least 10 people having close links with the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) and its affiliated organisations were falsely named accused in various acts of terror across India.[72] According to released documents by WikiLeaks, Congress(I) party's general secretary Rahul Gandhi alleged at a luncheon hosted by the Prime Minister of India at his residence in July 2009 for the US Ambassador Tim Roemer, that the RSS was a "bigger threat" to India than the Lashkar-e-Taiba.[73] At The Annual Conference of Director Generals of Police held in New Delhi on 16 September 2011, a special director of the Intelligence Bureau (IB) reportedly informed the state police chiefs that Hindutva activists have either been suspected or are under false investigations, in 16 incidents of bomb blasts in the country." 103.216.233.47 (talk) 05:54, 7 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
- Arjayay, Xoocit, Magentic Manifestations, Soni, Rohitsetthachok, Toadboy123, RogerYg, please carry out the above request.-103.216.233.47 (talk) 14:55, 7 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
- Not done. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary sources. Get better sources that support your claim. Soni (talk) 15:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
- @Soni: None of those allegations have been proved, so please just add the term, "allegations" as I have requested above (I have edited each sentence).-103.216.233.47 (talk) 16:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
- You may add, "Trying to control the damage, the Congress acknowledged that Gandhi had indeed spoken to Roemer on the issue.[1] [2] " 103.216.233.47 (talk) 16:42, 7 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
- You can add,
"Rahul's assumptions are preposterous. The Congress party is promoting Hindu-Muslim divide," as per BJP spokesperson Tarun Vijay.[3]
-103.216.233.47 (talk) 16:56, 7 July 2024 (UTC) 103.216.233.47 (talk) 16:56, 7 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]- Please also add,
"It is shocking that there is a race in the seniorCongress leadership to indirectly or directly support jehadi terror and to project Hindus as terrorists in this country, that too in gross violation of established diplomatic norms and procedures," senior RSS leader Ram Madhav responded.
[4] 103.216.233.47 (talk) 17:23, 7 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]- UnpetitproleX, CapnJackSp, please respond.-103.216.233.47 (talk) 06:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
- Just to make it easier for others to understand, that IP is asking to change what there is in the "Other incidents" section, to, "
The Indian Home Secretary R. K. Singh said that at least 10 people having close links with the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) and its affiliated organisations were falsely named accused in various acts of terror across India.[72] According to released documents by WikiLeaks, Congress(I) party's general secretary Rahul Gandhi alleged at a luncheon hosted by the Prime Minister of India at his residence in July 2009 for the US Ambassador Tim Roemer, that the RSS was a "bigger threat" to India than the Lashkar-e-Taiba.[73] At The Annual Conference of Director Generals of Police held in New Delhi on 16 September 2011, a special director of the Intelligence Bureau (IB) reportedly informed the state police chiefs that Hindutva activists have either been suspected or are under false investigations, in 16 incidents of bomb blasts in the country. Trying to control the damage, the Congress acknowledged that Gandhi had indeed spoken to Roemer on the issue.[1] [2] "Rahul's assumptions are preposterous. The Congress party is promoting Hindu-Muslim divide," as per BJP spokesperson Tarun Vijay.[3] "It is shocking that there is a race in the senior Congress leadership to indirectly or directly support jehadi terror and to project Hindus as terrorists in this country, that too in gross violation of established diplomatic norms and procedures," senior RSS leader Ram Madhav responded.[4]
"- Arjayay, Xoocit, Magentic Manifestations, UnpetitproleX, CapnJackSp, Rohitsetthachok, Toadboy123, RogerYg, Apart from the request above, in the Terminology section, under the, "Hindu terrorism" and "Hindutva terrorism" sub-section, please change the last sentence from,
.....such as Pragya Thakur and Aseemanand, have been arrested and tried
to,.... such as Pragya Thakur and Aseemanand, have been arrested and tried.[7] Aseemananand has being acquitted of all charges.[5] and according to Amit Shah, Pragya Thakur has also been cleared of all charges; Amit Shah also condemned the Congress party for coining the imaginary term, "Hindu terror".[6]
". Please also read through the entire article, it is completely anti-Hindu and is against the WP:NPOV rule! Please change it to become more neutral.-2406:.&checktime(7400,90,92,':')A7:98E9:41A1:8E37:C924 (talk) 12:20, 12 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]- I'm skeptical how much of this is based on RS, but Ill go through these sources in a few days and have a look. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 07:57, 14 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
- @CapnJackSp: Please also read through the entire article, it is completely anti-Hindu and is against the WP:NPOV rule! Please change it to become more neutral.-2406:.&checktime(7400,90,92,':')A7:884A:1F5:AE5C:C0E7 (talk) 12:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
- I'm skeptical how much of this is based on RS, but Ill go through these sources in a few days and have a look. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 07:57, 14 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
- Arjayay, Xoocit, Magentic Manifestations, UnpetitproleX, CapnJackSp, Rohitsetthachok, Toadboy123, RogerYg, Apart from the request above, in the Terminology section, under the, "Hindu terrorism" and "Hindutva terrorism" sub-section, please change the last sentence from,
- Just to make it easier for others to understand, that IP is asking to change what there is in the "Other incidents" section, to, "
- UnpetitproleX, CapnJackSp, please respond.-103.216.233.47 (talk) 06:00, 8 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
- Please also add,
- You can add,
- You may add, "Trying to control the damage, the Congress acknowledged that Gandhi had indeed spoken to Roemer on the issue.[1] [2] " 103.216.233.47 (talk) 16:42, 7 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
- Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the
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References
- ^ a b Bureau, ITGD (2010年12月17日). "BJP, RSS target Rahul over Hindu terror remarks". India Today. Retrieved 2024年07月07日.
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has generic name (help) - ^ a b Bureau, Mail Today (2010年12月18日). "Radical Hindu groups bigger threat than LeT, says Rahul". India Today. Retrieved 2024年07月07日.
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has generic name (help) - ^ a b "WikiLeaks: Controversy over Rahul's Hindu extremism remarks". NDTV.com. 2019年02月22日. Retrieved 2024年07月07日.
- ^ a b "Radical Hindu Groups Major Threat To India, Rahul Told Roemer". India TV News. 2010年12月17日. Retrieved 2024年07月07日.
- ^ "Swami Aseemanand, 3 others acquitted in 2007 Samjhauta Express bombing case". Hindustan Times. 2019年03月20日. Retrieved 2019年12月31日.
- ^ "Amit Shah 'Defends' Sadhvi Pragya's Candidature, Says She's Answer to Congress's 'Hindu Terror' Coinage". News18. 17 April 2019. Retrieved 12 July 2024.
References in the Lead
[edit ]Since this is a contentious topic, we need strong WP:RS references in the lead too, and any accusations should have credible sources. Also, any claims, opinions, and content without WP: RS references should be avoided. Thanks. RogerYg (talk) 23:16, 13 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
- Added missing references for the 2007-2008 attacks in the lead. Also for clarity of the chronology and context, the attacks need to be mentioned before the alleged accused, as the primary attacks in the sources are 2007 Samjhauta Express bombings and 2008 Malegaon blasts. RogerYg (talk) 23:19, 13 July 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 October 2024
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parameter to no to reactivate your request.In the, "2008 western India bombings" sub-section of the, "2007-2008" section, please change, "NIA, National Investigation Agency, has found no evidence against Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur and it has recommended the court to drop all charges against her.[59][60] following which Bombay High Court granted bail to Pragya Thakur on 22 April 2017." to, "NIA, National Investigation Agency, has found no evidence against Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur and it has recommended the court to drop all charges against her,[59][60] following which the Bombay High Court granted bail to Pragya Thakur on 22 April 2017." Please also remove the </ref> tag in the sub-section just above that. In the first sub-section of the, "2007-2008" section, the last sentence has two full stops, please correct that also. 2406:.&checktime(7400,90,5,':')E60:2FAD:64ED:1D27:CE84 (talk) 17:02, 17 October 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
- Done Thank you for the suggestions! Thebiguglyalien (talk) 22:48, 18 October 2024 (UTC) [reply ]
Inclusion of Samjhauta Express incident with the topic
[edit ]There are no clear link of saffron terror with Samjhauta Express incident Even NIA has linked Islamic terrorist groups LeT, HM etc if claims of several political leaders, authors or media house are considered as reliable source wikipedia then it's really concerning WikiEdits2003 (talk) 03:56, 1 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]
- I'm not sure what your mean. The link is quite plain. That there has no successful prosecution is simply a reflection of the deeply incompetent local justice system, but it doesn't negate the link. Iskandar323 (talk) 04:58, 1 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]
- Personal opinions don't matter here on Wikipedia
- provide some reliable source so we can add here on the page
- @Iskandar323 WikiEdits2003 (talk) 09:34, 6 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]
- Also the incident was linked with Islamic terrorist organisation LeT
- it seems like the information is bias too and those organisations which were linked to terrorism haven't been designated terrorist organisations just like LeT, Al Qaeda etc like Islamic terrorist organisations WikiEdits2003 (talk) 09:41, 6 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]
- Terrorism in India: Method in Madness? Pp.57–58. NB:
the Samjuhata Express tragedy not only dispelled the alleged involvement of Pakistan's agencies or groups but emphasized the lethality of the threat emanating from inside elements belonging to Hindu terrorist network.
Iskandar323 (talk) 09:47, 6 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]
- Terrorism in India: Method in Madness? Pp.57–58. NB:
Merge proposal
[edit ]There's a relatively new article entitled Hindutva iconoclasm, but given that icons aren't a prominent feature of Islam, this seems a topic of uncertain coherence. The contents seem more to cover Hindu terrorism, and doesn't discuss Iconoclasm, so I suggest merging the content to here without including the concept of iconoclasm. Klbrain (talk) 10:18, 2 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]
- In the Indian context the above seems untrue, so I would be inclined to oppose. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 19:02, 8 February 2025 (UTC) [reply ]
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