Talk:Robin (Fire Emblem)

Basically Smash Bros Ultimate has a new and improved render of Robin and i was wondering if we should swap the image with the new one but I couldn’t find any images of the Male Robin and Female Robin together. Unlike SSB4 (Super Smash Brothers For Wii U/3DS) which does have a render of them together. BricksBrick (talk) 12:53, 31 October 2022 (UTC) Reply

Just use photoshop or google drawings to put them together, dude. If it doesn't exist just make it yourself, it's not hard. 205.221.92.9 (talk) 18:42, 16 November 2022 (UTC) Reply

Robin is never referred to as such, it should be changed to he/she. there is no "they" option2601:249:1B01:9890:6545:D710:9C99:8562 (talk) 19:54, 1 August 2024 (UTC) Reply

Robin is referred to as "they" because Robin can be both a male or female character. "They" is used as a gender neutral term to encompass both possibilities for Robin's gender. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:33, 1 August 2024 (UTC) Reply

Robin is never referred to as such in game or in media. Quit forcing your gender ideology and stick with the facts 2601:249:1B01:9890:6545:D710:9C99:8562 (talk) 22:43, 1 August 2024 (UTC) Reply

This is historically how two people of multiple genders have been referred to as a group. Given how this covers both male and female Robin, this is used in order to refer to both characters. If you wish to change what's used, it'd be best to discuss this without being accusatory towards other editors and assuming bad faith. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:49, 2 August 2024 (UTC) Reply

OK, I'm sorry. But historically Robin has been referred to as he/she, it's in the artbook, let me find the page number 2601:249:1B01:9890:F1B3:70D7:B63E:D59A (talk) 02:47, 2 August 2024 (UTC) Reply

https://archive.org/details/the-art-of-fire-emblem-awakening_202005/page/186/mode/2up?view=theater page 186 2601:249:1B01:9890:F1B3:70D7:B63E:D59A (talk) 04:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC) Reply

They is listed in the AP stylebook as being acceptable when referring to someone of unknown or indeterminate gender. Robin is a character with no fixed gender, hence why the word 'they' is used instead of he or she. You are, unequivocally, the only one making this about "gender ideology," and you would be very kind to not invent things to be upset about. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 01:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC) Reply

Both Robins are canon, so it should reflect that. It's clear the games have multiple universes, thus making both things viable, there's never been any proof of there being "no canon gender" or "one canon gender" so by saying he/she you don't alienate anyone 2601:249:1B01:9890:F1B3:70D7:B63E:D59A (talk) 02:44, 2 August 2024 (UTC) Reply

They is appropriate here per wikipedia's manual of style. A lot of what you're pushing for is original research. Using they allows both gendered Robins to be referred to simultaneously. Maybe stop fretting over "gender ideology" issues where there aren't any and consider passing your English class for once.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 13:29, 2 August 2024 (UTC) Reply

If transphobia is going to get in the way of finally getting rid of the awful "he/she" construction I'm going to scream. Anyway, here's some sources used in the article that use 'they' to describe to this character whose gender can be either male or female: , , . Meanwhile, these sources use the "he/she" construction: , . Looks like both are acceptable, but I'd go with the construction that's less of a mouthful myself. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 13:46, 2 August 2024 (UTC) Reply

Outsider comment To editor 2601:249:1B01:9890:F1B3:70D7:B63E:D59A, I firmly ask you to stop removing this discussion as it typically policy to keep these discussion up in order for other uninvolved editors to see the discussions and topics pertaining to this article, in order for future similar discussions to not occur. Thank you! Captain Galaxy 19:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC) Reply